s type wont start
s type wont start
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bones121170

Original Poster:

13 posts

185 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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hi folks first time on forum so apologise it i get anything wrong.girlfriend has 2002 s type sport.she was giving me a lift lastnight when i suggested giving the car a quick blast as has been idle for couple of days due to bad weather.on putting her foot down the engine gave up the ghost and we had to tow car home any attempt to start the car just results in a clicking noise as if the starter has packed up.any advice would be grateful thanks.

Fullmel

146 posts

191 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Clicking noise sometimes indicates batt voltage low poss batt fault.

bones121170

Original Poster:

13 posts

185 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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did try gharging battery for about hour and a half still the same.would that make engine shut down as we were driving at the time.ps thanks for reply.

drummerboyXJR

189 posts

213 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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Maybe the 'quick blast' has dislodged a battery terminal?
Or you have run out of oil so its seized, therefore starter motor cant move?
Hopefully the former

bones121170

Original Poster:

13 posts

185 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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battery terminals seem fine and i also checked oil.fine also.never had anything like this happen before in a car.not even showing any fault lights on dash.someone mentioned car flooding itself but as for the car not turning over he was stumped hadnt heard of it before.thanks for reply.

drummerboyXJR

189 posts

213 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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Sounds like immobilser/key problem?

bones121170

Original Poster:

13 posts

185 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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thanks for reply but still cant get over it dying as we were driving.had friend out and tried jump start but no joy he tested battery with multimeter and was ok but when trying to turn the engine over it was just clicking.he suggested starter motor possibly stuck so will take it out tomorrow.when turning engine over voltage on battery droppped to 6volts.still not sure if this would make car stop when driving though.

bones121170

Original Poster:

13 posts

185 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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if it was a key/immobiliser problem any idea on how to check.thanks

Fullmel

146 posts

191 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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If voltage drops to 6 volts on crank the batt is no good This would need sorting first.

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

230 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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bones121170 said:
when turning engine over voltage on battery droppped to 6volts.
Thats not enough volts, should drop 2 or 3 volts when crancking, say from 13 to 10.

Its a bit strange it ran and then cut out, but arparts from that sounds like a battery fault to me.

When you tried to jump start it, was it connected propperly with the jumping cars engine running and revs raised to say 2000rpm. If not try that again, connect them up, let the jumping car idle connected with yours for a few mins, then hold the revs up a touch on the jumping car (maximum alternator output) an then try to crank the s type.

bones121170

Original Poster:

13 posts

185 months

Wednesday 5th January 2011
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thanks for replys.when trying to jump start i didnt leave cables on for any length of time.only as long as with any other car i have had to jumpstart.main difference with the jag is that i connected the negative lead to the t bar holding ths spare in place as this is what the manual insisted be done.could that have an effect on the power going to the battery in the jag.thanks again for replys.

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

230 months

Wednesday 5th January 2011
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They recomment attaching the earth to the boot stricker or the T bar as a safety precaution to reduce chances off spiking a module. If there is paint or corrosion on these items it can limit the flow of current and make the jump not work.

In my experience its ok to jump as i described straight onto the battery terminals.

bones121170

Original Poster:

13 posts

185 months

Wednesday 5th January 2011
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will try connecting straight to both terminals thanks very much will let you know how i get on.probably tomorrow as getting ready for work soon,thanks

bones121170

Original Poster:

13 posts

185 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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well folks i think i can rule out battery.tried to jump it placing both leads on both terminals.nothing just clicks.then tried my battery out of my skoda.same thing.would normally loook at starter because of clicking noise but still cant fathom out why it would bring car to a halt.will keep you informed if i have any luck.ps thanks for all the replys.

TheD

3,142 posts

225 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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I hope you dont mind if I keep an eye on this as I am having the same problem with my xj8. Haven't used it in 3 weeks. Checked battery etc all good. Just a click. Won't start on jump or booster. No problems before hand.

Sorry for the hijack frown

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

236 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Earth fault somewhere? Poor contact allowing enough current to pass to light dash and energise starter solonoid but breaking down and not letting enough through to actually turn engine over maybe.

What happens if you connect a booster battery and try to crank with the headlights on? Unless they are intended to extinguish when cranking if they go very dim or out when you try then you've got a massive voltage drop somewhere.

TheD

3,142 posts

225 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Everything works just fine. From the turn of the key through system check blah blah. Lights et al are just fine. Can the starter fail so abrubtly? No real voltage drop during turn over.

bones121170

Original Poster:

13 posts

185 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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not good news folks had aa out lastnight done usual checks everything seemed fine apart from the fact that the engine wont crank.suspect engine siezed.i tried to turn crankshaft with socket this morning no joy.spoken to a few people they suspect possible oil pump failure.a bit annoyed that the car can give warning lights to a variety of things but not something that can totally destroy your engine.

Simpo Two

92,002 posts

291 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Ow. But wouldn't the engine temp would climb before failure and start making unhappy noises first?

bones121170

Original Poster:

13 posts

185 months

Saturday 8th January 2011
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thats the most annoying thing the car was going fine until i told my girlfriend to give it a bit of juice.when she put her foot down(trust me she doesnt normally do this as she prefers to cruise everywhere)the engine just died(she did say that at the moment the car died the oil light came on but we are talking about a mili second)it hadnt been on previous and the car had been driven for about twenty minutes going fine.