F-Type R P575... how many?
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Hi there guys, I own a gorgeous 2022 (dec rego) F-Type R P575 in BRG over full tan leather.... its a keeper. Am struggling to find any information or data on how many of this variant were made in RHD (or UK registered). Plenty of data on the '75' that followed but prior to the '75' the 'R's' all have 5.0L blocks and the govt data doesn't differentiate between the 5.0L variants.
Anyone know how P575's coupes were made (excluding the model 75) or of a resource I can go to?
Cheers
Anyone know how P575's coupes were made (excluding the model 75) or of a resource I can go to?
Cheers
reddiesel said:
To be honest I haven't looked . Doubtless there will be the usual Dealers spiel trying to talk them up . "Last of the proper Jaguars"
"Future Classic" , "An Investment" , "Prices are only going one way" . lol
You hit the nail on the head! all of the above have been mentioned! As well as "specialists" trying to sell cars probably 8-10k more than 12 months ago! "Future Classic" , "An Investment" , "Prices are only going one way" . lol
The used Jaguar market is really weird, as I've said before it's bifurcated into a handful of fussing farts who think anything over 40k miles or with a missing service invoice from 6 years ago will instantly explode. These guys will spunk absurd amounts on these cars and then barely use them.
The rest are comedically cheap. As F-Types roll over 10 years old they're following every other Jaguar since the early 70s and going worthless, I watched a 90k FMDSH 2014 V8 S Roadster get 14k at BCA the other day which is a enormous, ENORMOUS drop from even a year ago. Times are tough for the sort of toy cars normal chaps have across the market though.
The rest are comedically cheap. As F-Types roll over 10 years old they're following every other Jaguar since the early 70s and going worthless, I watched a 90k FMDSH 2014 V8 S Roadster get 14k at BCA the other day which is a enormous, ENORMOUS drop from even a year ago. Times are tough for the sort of toy cars normal chaps have across the market though.
GeniusOfLove said:
The rest are comedically cheap. As F-Types roll over 10 years old they're following every other Jaguar since the early 70s and going worthless, I watched a 90k FMDSH 2014 V8 S Roadster get 14k at BCA the other day which is a enormous, ENORMOUS drop from even a year ago. Times are tough for the sort of toy cars normal chaps have across the market though.
That's interesting as I keep hearing talk of the prices rising. Have you seen many of the P450/R versions go through and what price point?BMWM2Black said:
I sold my 575 to Carwow back in September and it went to a dealer who had it up for sale for a number of months.
It was a fully loaded car with 2 owners. Great cars but wasnt really for me and I sold it after owning it for 14 months.
What was it you didn't like about the car out of interest?It was a fully loaded car with 2 owners. Great cars but wasnt really for me and I sold it after owning it for 14 months.
Thecat1 said:
GeniusOfLove said:
The rest are comedically cheap. As F-Types roll over 10 years old they're following every other Jaguar since the early 70s and going worthless, I watched a 90k FMDSH 2014 V8 S Roadster get 14k at BCA the other day which is a enormous, ENORMOUS drop from even a year ago. Times are tough for the sort of toy cars normal chaps have across the market though.
That's interesting as I keep hearing talk of the prices rising. Have you seen many of the P450/R versions go through and what price point?£53,500 CAP Retail on that. The only people talking about F Type prices going up are highly optimistic F Type owners
Joking aside petrolheads keep talking about how the last generation of great ICE cars will definitely go up in value and become sought after as everyone realises how rubbish new cars are but it's just not happening because the absolute key thing they forget is that for 90%+ of the owners of performance cars all that matters is:
Image
The Top Trumps figures are good for straight line heroics
New performance cars with those w
k hot-v turbos or EV powertrains are killer for both. The turbo V8s even sound rubbish but everyone tells each other how great they sound in some sort of weirdo groupthink.You only need to see how many 911s were sold as autos even when they came with the awful 5G box out of a C Class minicab to know what I say is true.
Meanwhile people who actually enjoy cars and driving can continue to enjoy how worthless and wonderful these cars are once they are too old, old hat, or likely to chuck a big bill outwith the finance/loan payment for image seekers to want.
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Saturday 10th January 14:35
haggis1 said:
Hi there guys, I own a gorgeous 2022 (dec rego) F-Type R P575 in BRG over full tan leather.... its a keeper. Am struggling to find any information or data on how many of this variant were made in RHD (or UK registered). Plenty of data on the '75' that followed but prior to the '75' the 'R's' all have 5.0L blocks and the govt data doesn't differentiate between the 5.0L variants.
Anyone know how P575's coupes were made (excluding the model 75) or of a resource I can go to?
Cheers
Anyone know how P575's coupes were made (excluding the model 75) or of a resource I can go to?
Cheers
The DVLA have various data sheets that we can look at.
This one is of first registrations.
Many different models are listed (some are in a muddle, I have two cars that are listed incorrectly), but it might be worth you having a look.
df_VEH0160_GB: Vehicles registered for the first time by body type, make, generic model and model: Great Britain (CSV, 25.8 MB).
It takes a while to download.
The link to that file is on this web page;
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-set...
Thecat1 said:
What was it you didn't like about the car out of interest?
For me it was too much of a GT car. The interior is fabulous and a really nice place to be but for sunday blasts and use as a toy it just left me wanting more. I think it would be awesome for trips into Europe. In a straight line it was very fast and handled well but I just wanted something to exite at any speed. I did get the back boxes done at Modstock which helped and the gearbox was bloody brilliant but I missed the interaction of a manual box. Enjoyed my time with it but the GT4 ticks all the boxes (for me anyway).
it's my understanding the facelift p575 has a different suspension set up vs the SVR (which itself was tuned from the basic set up for more track use!), the P575 set up was designed to be more refined which seems to make it more GT.
to be fair I've never tested them back to back, but the SVR is meant to be more edgy the fact lift more comfortable but how much mere mortals rather than the hacks can notice I sometimes doubt
to be fair I've never tested them back to back, but the SVR is meant to be more edgy the fact lift more comfortable but how much mere mortals rather than the hacks can notice I sometimes doubt
BMWM2Black said:
For me it was too much of a GT car. The interior is fabulous and a really nice place to be but for sunday blasts and use as a toy it just left me wanting more. I think it would be awesome for trips into Europe.
In a straight line it was very fast and handled well but I just wanted something to exite at any speed. I did get the back boxes done at Modstock which helped and the gearbox was bloody brilliant but I missed the interaction of a manual box. Enjoyed my time with it but the GT4 ticks all the boxes (for me anyway).
Exactly my own experience with both the V8 R and the SVR I owned and the latter was really special . Porsche wise you would need another £60k and a Turbo S to catch it in a straight line . Sadly due to seating position and gearbox it wasn’t the involving and satisfying drive the 4.0 Cayman is especially on the turn into a bend .In a straight line it was very fast and handled well but I just wanted something to exite at any speed. I did get the back boxes done at Modstock which helped and the gearbox was bloody brilliant but I missed the interaction of a manual box. Enjoyed my time with it but the GT4 ticks all the boxes (for me anyway).
Typical Jaguar they always seem more interested in brand stretching than developing something good into something really special and for a real Jaguar enthusiast it’s almost heartbreaking . The 911 for example has over 50 years of continuous development so Porsche know how to make a sports car handle and inspire the driver . It’s always struck me how each new generation of 911 is applauded by the Media yet when Jaguar did the same with the XJ ,the X350 was labelled old fashioned ??? This was despite JLR employing the most advanced construction techniques and materials available at that time . F Type SVR was a great Jaguar but sadly another opportunity missed
BMWM2Black said:
For me it was too much of a GT car. The interior is fabulous and a really nice place to be but for sunday blasts and use as a toy it just left me wanting more. I think it would be awesome for trips into Europe.
In a straight line it was very fast and handled well but I just wanted something to exite at any speed. I did get the back boxes done at Modstock which helped and the gearbox was bloody brilliant but I missed the interaction of a manual box. Enjoyed my time with it but the GT4 ticks all the boxes (for me anyway).
Yeah, I totally get that, it is more of a GT type car rather than an out and out track focussed machine like a GT4. You can definitely feel the weight over the front axle in the F-Type and the steering and handling won't be anywhere near the Cayman. But I'm looking for a GT type car with some V8 grunt rather than something ultra precise in the corners. If I wanted that I'd be looking in the direction of a Mclaren 570/650 type. In a straight line it was very fast and handled well but I just wanted something to exite at any speed. I did get the back boxes done at Modstock which helped and the gearbox was bloody brilliant but I missed the interaction of a manual box. Enjoyed my time with it but the GT4 ticks all the boxes (for me anyway).
Edited by Thecat1 on Wednesday 14th January 23:36
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