Skoda 1.4TSI or 2.0CR diesel?

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Both in a Octavia and both are approx 5yrs years old (petrol is 6months younger). Both have had the cambelt carried out and the diesel needs (is having a new clutch and slave cylinder) before sale.

Both are 6spd manual and I'll be doing 15,000miles a year.

Both 150bhp

Both full Skoda history, well the diesel missed one.

Has anyone driven Both engines?

The diesel is 1k cheaper.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Anyone

[The Cardinal]

I’ve driven both engines pretty extensively and prefer the 1.4 TFSI. It’s a really strong performer with very competitive fuel economy if gently driven on long runs. That said, I don’t know it in the Octavia.

I guess a lot depends on your driving profile and own preferences.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

I must admit i like using the rev range in cars and I've only ever owned 2 diesels so a diesel would be fairly new grounds.

[Antony Moxey]

The petrol will hold its value better (which I suppose is why it’s £1k more expensive in the first place).

[Hugo Stiglitz]

The garage with the diesel for sale has just updated me saying its having its clutch and DMF replaced. Symptoms on the test drive were really short clutch travel/sluggish pickup.

It should be Bob on after that? I.e. dmf won't cause issues to other part of engine on a VAG? No excess vibration noted on test drive.

[missing the VR6]

Depends how much you value MPG and the type of driving you're doing. If you're doing higher speed motorway type miles the TDI is considerably better, if more local the TSI is actually alright.
R.E residual values, the trade hasn't really seen a dip in diesel values since the VW emission thing, depreciation has stayed pretty normal. The 2030 thing will affect petrol and diesel equally.

[p4cks]

I've the 1.4 TSI engine in my Leon and it regularly returns 46+ mpg. It's a peach of an engine

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Antony Moxey said:

The petrol will hold its value better (which I suppose is why it’s £1k more expensive in the first place).

To be honest if I went for the petrol I'd try and get 300 off or I'd walk (is what I'd say). With 300 off I'd be more than to go for the petrol if its in the condition it looks in in pics etc.

[Terzo123]

I've driven the 1.4 engine in an Audi A3, and currently own a Seat Leon with the same engine.

Can't comment on the diesel, but the wee 1.4 petrol is an excellent unit. Decent performance and economy. You can eek out 50mpg on a long motorway run without too much issue. With mainly city driving we average just over 40mpg. Its also only 20 quid a year to tax.

In Europe, the recommended cam belt change is something like 10 years and/or 120,000 miles (Requires citation) whereas in the UK its half that for whatever reason.

[Antony Moxey]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

Antony Moxey said:

The petrol will hold its value better (which I suppose is why it’s £1k more expensive in the first place).

To be honest if I went for the petrol I'd try and get 300 off or I'd walk (is what I'd say). With 300 off I'd be more than to go for the petrol if its in the condition it looks in in pics etc.

And that £300 will go a long way towards a remap and near 200 horse. Just sayin’…

[Hugo Stiglitz]

I ran both through Skodas extended warranty for an indicator on how they view them in a used warranty scenario.



Both exact same terms etc.



Petrol £277 a year

Diesel £655 a year



Both fully all in and £100 excess

I even found a 2016 reg on a 1.4 from autotrader and pit in 60,000miles and it was still 277 a year.

That's telling..

[missing the VR6]

I'd be really honest with yourself about your style of driving when choosing too, yes if you nanny the 1.4TSI it can do good MPG, but if you're inclined to accelerate harder or drive faster the mpg really drops. The TDI will do mid 40's even driving hard. Thrashing a VRS TDI and a GTD still gets late 30's.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

missing the VR6 said:

I'd be really honest with yourself about your style of driving when choosing too, yes if you nanny the 1.4TSI it can do good MPG, but if you're inclined to accelerate harder or drive faster the mpg really drops. The TDI will do mid 40's even driving hard. Thrashing a VRS TDI and a GTD still gets late 30's.

I'll be honest when the shift ends I drive fast with engine stone cold...

[Scobblelotcher]

I prefer the diesel out of the two. It’s a lazy engine that is easy to make good progress in and is capable of better fuel economy especially on higher speed runs.

My pick would be the 184 that is punchy but still capable of decent fuel economy.

[missing the VR6]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

I'll be honest when the shift ends I drive fast with engine stone cold...

Haha, in that case I'd go for a diesel.

[Sheepshanks]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

I ran both through Skodas extended warranty for an indicator on how they view them in a used warranty scenario.



Both exact same terms etc.



Petrol £277 a year

Diesel £655 a year



Both fully all in and £100 excess

I even found a 2016 reg on a 1.4 from autotrader and pit in 60,000miles and it was still 277 a year.

That's telling..

That seems oddly expensive on the diesel - wife's late 2015 VW Tiguan 2 litre diesel (so EU6 with all the AdBlue emissions stuff etc) 4Motion, DSG, £0 excess, 15K miles per year, the renewal every year, including the quote last month, has been £348. I think that might be discounted as it's been continuously covered, but wouldn't have expected the discount to be that significant.

I've just switched to the VW (and all the main VAG marques are doing this) "All-In" package - gives Service, MOT, Assistance and Warranty for £33/mth for 2yrs. Only available on vehicles less than 6yrs old at start. Ours was very marginal on age but the dealer got it through.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

I know I thought it was weird. I ran it on different reg (diesel v 1 4) and the same.

I used the regs from Skoda approved sale cars too so just incase the algorithm is picking up on missed or part services?!

That's the only thing stopping that sticks out in the two.

[Sheepshanks]

Hugo Stiglitz said:

I know I thought it was weird. I ran it on different reg (diesel v 1 4) and the same.

I used the regs from Skoda approved sale cars too so just incase the algorithm is picking up on missed or part services?!

That's the only thing stopping that sticks out in the two.

I just tried another Tiguan Diesel and got the same sort of figure you do - it must be discounted on ours more than I realised.

It makes the All-In package seem almost ridiculous - assuming you'd want to have a warranty in place.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Whereas the 1.4TSI is still 277 whether its 2015 or 2016 and if its 45,000 or if you enter 60,000!

Maybe it's based on their claims data

The 2.0 gets small consistent niggles as it gets older.