Cupra Leon Hybrid 12.8Kwh
Discussion
Hi All,
I'm looking to change my car this year and either go full EV or Hybrid. Seems that the Cupra Leon might be decent as it has a good range of battery which will help my 35 miles one way commute 4-5 days a week. I drive mostly on motorways and dual carriage ways, I'm wondering if the cars battery will drive the car in full EV mode at 65mph?
What sort of range are people getting with the battery?
What mpg do people get if using both petrol and battery? Would I be better keeping it in mixed mode rather than doing X miles on battery?
Does the car self charge once using the petrol engine?
Also it is possible to charge up at work at a price if the chargers are free.
I'm looking to change my car this year and either go full EV or Hybrid. Seems that the Cupra Leon might be decent as it has a good range of battery which will help my 35 miles one way commute 4-5 days a week. I drive mostly on motorways and dual carriage ways, I'm wondering if the cars battery will drive the car in full EV mode at 65mph?
What sort of range are people getting with the battery?
What mpg do people get if using both petrol and battery? Would I be better keeping it in mixed mode rather than doing X miles on battery?
Does the car self charge once using the petrol engine?
Also it is possible to charge up at work at a price if the chargers are free.
We have Passat GTEs at work that are similar setup but the previous gen.
They will do 65-70 on EV alone but they will be pretty gutless if its the 204bhp version. Much past 40mph its a struggle and the range drops quickly.
I don't know about the more powerful one though as that I assume has a more powerful electric motor.
They will do 65-70 on EV alone but they will be pretty gutless if its the 204bhp version. Much past 40mph its a struggle and the range drops quickly.
I don't know about the more powerful one though as that I assume has a more powerful electric motor.
SteBrown91 said:
We have Passat GTEs at work that are similar setup but the previous gen.
They will do 65-70 on EV alone but they will be pretty gutless if its the 204bhp version. Much past 40mph its a struggle and the range drops quickly.
I don't know about the more powerful one though as that I assume has a more powerful electric motor.
Thanks. So pretty much running on EV mode only would be best for nipping to the shops and/or stuck in traffic. It would be best to just run in hybrid mode which probably isn't going to return much mpg more than a diesel. They will do 65-70 on EV alone but they will be pretty gutless if its the 204bhp version. Much past 40mph its a struggle and the range drops quickly.
I don't know about the more powerful one though as that I assume has a more powerful electric motor.
In your Passat, does it self charge up while you're driving? Ideally I don't want to be running out of battery on the way home from work and having to use the petrol engine on it's own.
I have a similar distance commute in said car on 3 quarters motorway.
Can't charge at work, so I use in hybrid. It tends to use half the battery one way and half on the way back. Mpg for each way is around 70-80mpg.
What matters is the cost of your charge. I calculated that anything more than 26p/kWh (and with current unleaded at around 135p) and it would be cheaper to not charge and run purely on ICE (returning around 45-50mpg).
I have the cheapish (9p kWh) overnight rate so costs around £1.20 to charge fully (13kwh battery).
Don't think of a hybrid as an EV with a tiny range. Think of it as an ICE with a battery to improve mpg. That said, it's great for pure EV short local trips. I think it could probably do about 20 miles on battery only.
Can't charge at work, so I use in hybrid. It tends to use half the battery one way and half on the way back. Mpg for each way is around 70-80mpg.
What matters is the cost of your charge. I calculated that anything more than 26p/kWh (and with current unleaded at around 135p) and it would be cheaper to not charge and run purely on ICE (returning around 45-50mpg).
I have the cheapish (9p kWh) overnight rate so costs around £1.20 to charge fully (13kwh battery).
Don't think of a hybrid as an EV with a tiny range. Think of it as an ICE with a battery to improve mpg. That said, it's great for pure EV short local trips. I think it could probably do about 20 miles on battery only.
Yeah at work it's the cost of electricity so 23p if there's a spot.
So potentially I could charge up there but again a big if.
I'll be using a 3 pin at home as I don't have a charger.
My main thing is to probably keep it in hybrid mode until I get stuck in traffic. Also I don't really want to have to charge up at work due to the higher cost.
I currently get now 48mpg so anything into the 60s is a massive plus. Also a step away from diesel.
Personally I'd go full EV but can't deal with other half moaning about them.
So potentially I could charge up there but again a big if.
I'll be using a 3 pin at home as I don't have a charger.
My main thing is to probably keep it in hybrid mode until I get stuck in traffic. Also I don't really want to have to charge up at work due to the higher cost.
I currently get now 48mpg so anything into the 60s is a massive plus. Also a step away from diesel.
Personally I'd go full EV but can't deal with other half moaning about them.
Ankh87 said:
Thanks. So pretty much running on EV mode only would be best for nipping to the shops and/or stuck in traffic. It would be best to just run in hybrid mode which probably isn't going to return much mpg more than a diesel.
In your Passat, does it self charge up while you're driving? Ideally I don't want to be running out of battery on the way home from work and having to use the petrol engine on it's own.
It does self charge a little from braking etc - you can change the mode to a full recharge mode using the engine but this hammers the mpg. In your Passat, does it self charge up while you're driving? Ideally I don't want to be running out of battery on the way home from work and having to use the petrol engine on it's own.
As I say these are work pool cars not my own. They are fine but for me they are a bit of a worst of both worlds and I decided to go full EV from my old Golf GTD.
The latest VW PHEVs with the 1.5 engine and updated batteries/motor could be better though.
Ankh87 said:
Yeah at work it's the cost of electricity so 23p if there's a spot.
So potentially I could charge up there but again a big if.
I'll be using a 3 pin at home as I don't have a charger.
My main thing is to probably keep it in hybrid mode until I get stuck in traffic. Also I don't really want to have to charge up at work due to the higher cost.
I currently get now 48mpg so anything into the 60s is a massive plus. Also a step away from diesel.
Personally I'd go full EV but can't deal with other half moaning about them.
Doesn't matter how you charge it at home, it's the tariff that matters.So potentially I could charge up there but again a big if.
I'll be using a 3 pin at home as I don't have a charger.
My main thing is to probably keep it in hybrid mode until I get stuck in traffic. Also I don't really want to have to charge up at work due to the higher cost.
I currently get now 48mpg so anything into the 60s is a massive plus. Also a step away from diesel.
Personally I'd go full EV but can't deal with other half moaning about them.
You won't need to keep changing modes when in traffic as low speeds, stop/start etc will keep it in battery only. Only when you call for enough power will the engine kick in.
I manage fine with not charging at work, and at 23p I wouldn't worry about it. It's been possible to get 80-90mpg both ways off a single charge. But for your full economics, you'll want to know how often you charge (and at what rate) over the course of using a full tank of fuel (and how much that fuel cost) and how many miles you did. Then add them both together to get your real life mpg cost.
Working it out in pence per mile makes it easier to compare ICE to hybrid/EV.
Other than that, the cupra is a fine car.
Don't know if it applies to the Cupra Leon, but the software on my 2024 Seat Leon e-hybrid does NOT have the charging schedule stuff shown in the manual, videos etc. Apparently this did use to work, but Seat dropped the ball, and it is now "missing". Unless you have a wall charger, there is no way to tell the car to charge when the off peak tariff kicks in. Seat advised me today (through the dealer) that the functionality is due in a software release scheduled for Q3 (ie worst case end September)
I have a mk8 golf gte, so pretty much the same car. My commute is 12 miles each way. Mainly a 60 dual carriageway. In the warmer months I can go back and forth on a single charge with c6miles spare. I mainly charge at home on a scheduled timer between midnight and 5am at 7.9p per kw, so c85p from 0%-100%. If I'm in hybrid doing the same commute I can get over 90mpg. I now only visit a petrol station once a month at most. If you're able to charge regularly, at a lower rate, you could do a lot of miles between refuels and very cheap motoring. My best so far is 1600 miles. Fantastic car, would recommend.
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