Fuel Injection hose

[Plan B]

Just had a bit of a worrying moment. The Griff has just come back from the paint shop where I had the paint shop do an MOT whilst it was there. The test had to be cut short because the car was pouring out fuel from above the bell housing. I'm very unkeen to have fuel peeing over hot parts of the car so in the recent past I replaced what I thought were ALL the rubber hoses in the fuel feed and return including those that come up the o/s side of the bulkhead into the engine bay and also the hoses before and after the fuel pump and fuel filter. That done I was under the impression all the rubber elements had been replaced. - Apparently not - the paintshop's mechanic managed to reach around the top of the bell housing to find another section of rubber hose about 10 cm long that was used to negotiate the steel fuel pipe around the top of the bell housing. This was badly perished and porous and the cause of the fuel leak. I've never read or heard about this section of rubber hose and not yet having had the body off the chassis I would never have known it was there. This is a crazy place to have a perishable rubber hose where you have no chance of seeing it - was this just an anomaly on my car or is this a general feature on all Griffs? Another question - anybody know if there are any other rubber fuel hose connections that I haven't mentioned?

[neutral 3]

Hello Plan I wasn't aware of this section of fuel pipe either, I thought that there was the supply pipe and the return. Got a photo of it ?

I've never seen a Griff with the body off either, so can't visualise this section of fuel pipe.

[Plan B]

Unfortunately in the rush to OK the replacement hose I didn't think to take a photo. When I went round to the garage/paintshop I saw the two steel pipes with the section of perished rubber hose joining them. This was upstream of the feed hose entering the engine bay along with the return pipe (which I believe runs down the offside side of the car and it is the feed pipe that runs along the near side and has need to cross over the top of the bell housing). I spoke to the mechanis who did the replacement. He had to go under the car and hugthe bell housing so as to be able to reach up to loosen off the hose.
I just wonder why the steel pipe wasn't just bent around the top of the bell housing instead of using a rubber connector. I'm pretty sure my car hasn't had a body-off before so assume this hose must have been factory fitted.

[andy43]

98 griff?
Late 97 car here - hope I don't have the hidden sprinkler system on mine!

[neutral 3]

A couple of weeks ago when my one was up on the ramp ( cleaning the chassis ) I remember one of the fuel pipes is cable tied along the left chassis rail and then it disapears up behind the engine, think this is the feed one ? But I couldnt see where the other one goes ?

I would get my one back on the ramp now and get some photos of the fuel pipes, but the beast still won't start !!

[Plan B]

As N3 describes it's the feed pipe coming off the nearside chassis rail then going up the side of the bell housing. Mine is a '98 car. The only way you can check if there's a rubber connector up there is to lie flat and curl your arm up / around the bell housing (taking usual car in the air precautions!)

[Loubaruch]

On my 96 500 the only short rubber fuel hose is that from the pressure regulator to a short steel pipe that bends around the plenum on the bell housing. In my opinion both the short rubber hose and short steel pipe are superfluous and only add more potential leak points.

There is a third rubber hose running from the roll over valve on the tank to the carbon cannister (not on early cars) but as this only carries fuel vapour is an unlikely spot for petrol leaks

After experiencing many leaks under the bell housing (where the return feed joins a copper pipe) I decided to rip the whole lot out and start again. Several cars have apparently been lost to fuel leak fires.

This may help:

http://www.bertram-hill.com/tvr-griffith.html

[neutral 3]

Mine is a 98 as well, so guessing the same fuel pipe set up as your one.