New Discovery range query
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pattyg said:
Apparently the new Discovery is taking the place of the old Freelander.
What, if anything is taking the place of the old Discovery?
Nothing, Discovery still continues but from what I gather each model will have different versions.What, if anything is taking the place of the old Discovery?
Range Rover = Full one, Sport, Evoque.
Discovery = Normal Discovery, Discovery Sport.
Defender = New replacement model and then vary different versions for different uses.
Happy to be corrected though.
ZOLLAR said:
Nothing, Discovery still continues but from what I gather each model will have different versions.
Range Rover = Full one, Sport, Evoque.
Discovery = Normal Discovery, Discovery Sport.
Defender = New replacement model and then vary different versions for different uses.
Happy to be corrected though.
Spot on. Was speaking with a LR employee on Sunday, and when I asked about a Discovery replacement he just said it was some way off yet.Range Rover = Full one, Sport, Evoque.
Discovery = Normal Discovery, Discovery Sport.
Defender = New replacement model and then vary different versions for different uses.
Happy to be corrected though.
Sheepshanks said:
They do mess with your head a bit - Discovery Sport is based on Evoque, in the same way, the previous RangeRover Sport was based on Discovery.
The Discovery Sport is very different from the Evoque. It's longer, taller, more spacious, has totally different seating in terms of configuration and materials, has a different AWD system, different nav and audio interface, can tow 25% more, features autonomous emergency braking etc...The two cars look a little alike from the front but are very different vehicles.
unrepentant said:
The Discovery Sport is very different from the Evoque. It's longer, taller, more spacious, has totally different seating in terms of configuration and materials, has a different AWD system, different nav and audio interface, can tow 25% more, features autonomous emergency braking etc...
The two cars look a little alike from the front but are very different vehicles.
When do you expect the Discovery replacement to be available?The two cars look a little alike from the front but are very different vehicles.
pattyg said:
Apparently the new Discovery is taking the place of the old Freelander.
The Discovery Sport has replaced the Freelanderpattyg said:
What, if anything is taking the place of the old Discovery?
The old Discovery will be replaced by a new Discovery"Discovery" has effectively become a sub-brand under Land Rover, much like Ranger Rover has (this is why the Discovery Sport has "DISCOVERY" badging on the leading edge of the bonnet, rather than "LAND ROVER" as the Freelander did).
So the 'regular' Discovery will continue (replacement pending), and the Freelander has been replaced by the Discovery Sport.
Edited by fbc on Tuesday 17th February 01:40
unrepentant said:
The Discovery Sport is very different from the Evoque. It's longer, taller, more spacious, has totally different seating in terms of configuration and materials, has a different AWD system, different nav and audio interface, can tow 25% more, features autonomous emergency braking etc...
The two cars look a little alike from the front but are very different vehicles.
Yes, but it's based on the Evoque platform.The two cars look a little alike from the front but are very different vehicles.
fbc said:
So the 'regular' Discovery will continue (replacement pending), and the Freelander has been essentially re-badged as the "Discovery Sport".
Eh? Discovery Sport is nothing like the Freelander, it's a totally new car. There's no re badging involved at all.Next gen Discovery will be totally different from D4, reports suggest it will be available in 2016.
unrepentant said:
Eh? Discovery Sport is nothing like the Freelander, it's a totally new car. There's no re badging involved at all.
Next gen Discovery will be totally different from D4, reports suggest it will be available in 2016.
It shares the same Evoque FoMoCo mechanicals & an extended Evoque platform, commercially it replaces the Freelander but has moved upmarket whilst doing so.Next gen Discovery will be totally different from D4, reports suggest it will be available in 2016.
unrepentant said:
Eh? Discovery Sport is nothing like the Freelander, it's a totally new car. There's no re badging involved at all.
I know. I meant the Discovery Sport has replaced the Freelander in the Land Rover line-up. Poor phrasing on my part, tidied up now.Edited by fbc on Tuesday 17th February 01:41
It's worth noting the Discovery Sport is not intended by JLR to be a direct replacement for the Freelander. They are two markedly different cars. That doesnt stop people seeing it that way though. As others have alluded to there will be a discovery family much like the range rover family is now and the Discovery Sport is part of that.
seany87 said:
It's worth noting the Discovery Sport is not intended by JLR to be a direct replacement for the Freelander. They are two markedly different cars. That doesnt stop people seeing it that way though. As others have alluded to there will be a discovery family much like the range rover family is now and the Discovery Sport is part of that.
That's a slightly odd comment - they've dropped Freelander and introduced Discovery Sport. So early they didn't have its engine ready.It's a bit like saying Volvo didn't intend the new XC90 to directly replace the old one - because they've moved it upmarket.
There's a smaller SUV coming too, but I think what will throw people is Discovery Sport isn't all that big - it's about the same length as Freelander (a couple of inches more, I think). It's quite a lot wider though, which is going to cause issues in parking spaces and width restrictions.
Sheepshanks said:
It's a bit like saying Volvo didn't intend the new XC90 to directly replace the old one - because they've moved it upmarket.
That's exactly what I (or rather JLR) are trying to say.The way its been explained to me is that the Freelander name (and therefore that cars market) is dead. The intended market for the Discovery Sport is supposed to be more upmarket than that for the Freelander. Yes JLR might lose some customers at the bottom end of the price scale but I suppose the marketing and finance guys know what their longterm plan is regarding that.
I appreciate it's a bit pedantic though.. its like saying the DS is a 7 seater when JLR really really want it to be known as a 5+2
seany87 said:
That's exactly what I (or rather JLR) are trying to say.
The way its been explained to me is that the Freelander name (and therefore that cars market) is dead. The intended market for the Discovery Sport is supposed to be more upmarket than that for the Freelander. Yes JLR might lose some customers at the bottom end of the price scale but I suppose the marketing and finance guys know what their longterm plan is regarding that.
I appreciate it's a bit pedantic though.. its like saying the DS is a 7 seater when JLR really really want it to be known as a 5+2
It's been explained to you incorrectly. Price wise here in the US it starts at $38k which is pretty much where the FL2 started. Most FL2 sales are in the $40-42k range which is where a big chunk of DS sales will be. The 45-50k range will probably be as big. I expect many prior FL2 buyers to buy it but it will attract a huge number of new conquest customers just like the Evoque did. There's no need to lose any customers but volumes on the DS will be much higher.The way its been explained to me is that the Freelander name (and therefore that cars market) is dead. The intended market for the Discovery Sport is supposed to be more upmarket than that for the Freelander. Yes JLR might lose some customers at the bottom end of the price scale but I suppose the marketing and finance guys know what their longterm plan is regarding that.
I appreciate it's a bit pedantic though.. its like saying the DS is a 7 seater when JLR really really want it to be known as a 5+2
It absolutely is a 5+2, not a 7 seater.
In the Uk it has not been helped by launching the expensive cars first and generally by not bringing in the new engines for 9-12 months.
I suspect all will become clearer when the 3rd Discovery is revealed which I suspect will be smaller than the DS with a correspondingly lower price point.
I suspect all will become clearer when the 3rd Discovery is revealed which I suspect will be smaller than the DS with a correspondingly lower price point.
Opinions over on the Freel2 site seem mixed.
There's even a thread running titled so where should FL2 owners look now. Basically saying the DS isn't what we want as a replacement, which is my view too, though haven't made any input to that thread.
Lots of discussion about other marques or whether the next Defender will be more what people want.
I'm sure the DS will be a success, not least to buyers who couldn't get past the Freelander name, just like some folks still wouldn't be seen dead in a Skoda.
There's even a thread running titled so where should FL2 owners look now. Basically saying the DS isn't what we want as a replacement, which is my view too, though haven't made any input to that thread.
Lots of discussion about other marques or whether the next Defender will be more what people want.
I'm sure the DS will be a success, not least to buyers who couldn't get past the Freelander name, just like some folks still wouldn't be seen dead in a Skoda.
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