JLR demands six-month ban on me selling a new Evoque

JLR demands six-month ban on me selling a new Evoque

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audidoody

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8,598 posts

270 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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We've been waiting nearly a year for a new Evoque. I understand the massive supply issues the industry is having so this is not a complaint about delivery times.

I have been told by dealer JLR says that I will not be allowed to take delivery of the vehicle unless I agree to not sell it for six months,

This is unlikely to be a real-world issue But I have an objection in principle to a third party dictating what I can and can't do with my bought and paid-for private property. My instinct is to tell them to stuff it and get my £1,000 refunded.

Thoughts?

MattyD803

1,970 posts

79 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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audidoody said:
We've been waiting nearly a year for a new Evoque. I understand the massive supply issues the industry is having so this is not a complaint about delivery times.

I have been told by dealer JLR says that I will not be allowed to take delivery of the vehicle unless I agree to not sell it for six months,

This is unlikely to be a real-world issue But I have an objection in principle to a third party dictating what I can and can't do with my bought and paid-for private property. My instinct is to tell them to stuff it and get my £1,000 refunded.

Thoughts?
You would be well within your rights to do so....but I expect JLR will then sell said vehicle for a lovely 'beat the wait' premium to the next person in line, so it's win / win from their point of view....I appreciate your principle, but after such a long wait for said vehicle, do you actually expect to need to sell it within 6 months?

audidoody

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8,598 posts

270 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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It’s a head/heart thing

Head - meh

Heart - WHAT????

MOBB

4,041 posts

141 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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audidoody said:
It’s a head/heart thing

Head - meh

Heart - WHAT????
^ This

I know I would tell them to stick it, but probably not sensible lol

InitialDave

13,125 posts

133 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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It would piss me off on principle, but in practical terms wouldn't cause an issue.

So if I really wanted the car I'd agree.

Once I've got the car, who knows.

Certainly my attitude would be something along the lines of "you haven't managed to sell me the car in 12 months, so don't concern yourself with me selling it in 6"

Jonny TVR

4,547 posts

295 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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How are they going to police that and would they actually sue you .. a customer.

I guess they could find out come service time if the owner has changed but is that likely to be within 6 months anyway.

InitialDave

13,125 posts

133 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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Are you trading in another car?

Tell them there'll be a 12 month delay before you give it to them, and they can't sell it for 6 months after that.

paddy1970

1,098 posts

123 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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Just sign the paper ... it is not enforceable...

paddy1970

1,098 posts

123 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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the only thing they can do is ban you from buying from this dealership (in the unlikely event that they found out)...then just go to the next dealership.

If it was me, I would just put the car on AT just to cheese them off and have nothing to do with them moving forward...


Heathwood

2,841 posts

216 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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I’d suggest it’s a request masquerading as a demand / enforceable contractual term. Do the T&Cs say anything about the consequences of selling and, as others have said, how would they even know?

Zetec-S

6,437 posts

107 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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Jonny TVR said:
How are they going to police that and would they actually sue you .. a customer.

I guess they could find out come service time if the owner has changed but is that likely to be within 6 months anyway.
It's JLR - they'll expect you to be back long before 6 months for some sort of warranty repair wink

InitialDave

13,125 posts

133 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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Zetec-S said:
It's JLR - they'll expect you to be back long before 6 months for some sort of warranty repair wink
rofl

pingu393

9,486 posts

219 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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InitialDave said:
Are you trading in another car?

Tell them there'll be a 12 month delay before you give it to them, and they can't sell it for 6 months after that.
Tell them that you'll agree, with the proviso that there is a retrospective agreement about your trade-in.

smile

blindspot

337 posts

157 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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For an alternate viewpoint, good on 'em for at least trying to make sure their cars go to customers who want to use them, rather than flippers and parasites.


audidoody

Original Poster:

8,598 posts

270 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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blindspot said:
For an alternate viewpoint, good on 'em for at least trying to make sure their cars go to customers who want to use them, rather than flippers and parasites.
I'm not a flipper. But if I was how is it going to me selling the car for a premium when there are delivery dates in excess of a year.? Want my car? Fine We'll agree a price, Give me £100 deposit and you can have it in six months (for example).

Blue62

9,760 posts

166 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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blindspot said:
For an alternate viewpoint, good on 'em for at least trying to make sure their cars go to customers who want to use them, rather than flippers and parasites.
It’s naive though I get the point, but it won’t stop flippers as they will just hold onto the registration for a few months. In the case of the RRS I had to use a dealer within a 30 mike radius of home and agree not to sell for three months.

blindspot

337 posts

157 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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audidoody said:
I'm not a flipper. But if I was how is it going to me selling the car for a premium when there are delivery dates in excess of a year.? Want my car? Fine We'll agree a price, Give me £100 deposit and you can have it in six months (for example).
I'm not arguing that they are going to stop flippers by asking you to commit to keeping it for 6 months, or meaning to suggest you're a flipper. There's obviously no perfect solution to ensuring that cars go into the hands of people who want them, as opposed to people who want the overs. Not least because st happens, circumstances change, and chaps who desperately wanted a car might HAVE to sell shortly after delivery.

But. Any friction they can introduce, any disincentive or inconvenience - sell in less than a year and go on my stlist so you can't have that Defender 110 or the GT4 RS - will reduce the number of flippers at least a little, and can only be good for those who do want the car rather than some easy money.

cayman-black

13,094 posts

230 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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paddy1970 said:
Just sign the paper ... it is not enforceable...
This how would they know any way? What do they think it is a GT3?

Voldemort

6,856 posts

292 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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Sell it immediately to someone who will give you a deposit against your asking price of 99.999% of the agreed sale price, and the final £1 6 months later.

mw88

1,457 posts

125 months

Thursday 8th September 2022
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paddy1970 said:
Just sign the paper ... it is not enforceable...
They might not be able to stop you selling it, but they can stop you buying another one.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...