Commercial Vehicles - twin cab alternatives
Commercial Vehicles - twin cab alternatives
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dave123456

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3,948 posts

177 months

Thursday 27th August
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Evening

With the recent change to tax law making twin cabs less financially viable, has anyone got any suggestions for robust vehicles suitable for construction sites that would be BIK kind?

Land Rover Defender Hard Top seems to be most obvious, although I’m trying to manage economics and perspective and they seem a little pricey and flashy…


Lefty

21,368 posts

232 months

PoorCarCollector

270 posts

50 months

Thursday 27th August
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The other problem with the LR Defender HT is reliability

The Toyota Land Cruiser commercial is worth a look but also fairly pricey

dave123456

Original Poster:

3,948 posts

177 months

Thursday 27th August
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Lefty said:
Looks useful. Would need a lease.

Lefty

21,368 posts

232 months

Thursday 27th August
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If a new Defender is too chintzy then I assume a D5 commercial probably is too but you could get a D4 commercial? Or a 2 seat Ineos Grenadier.

Most farmers I know use double cabs but a few use SWB Shogun vans. They do have a bit of a reputation for engine issues though.

Lefty

21,368 posts

232 months

Thursday 27th August
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Massey135

59 posts

288 months

Thursday 27th August
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I think Toyota, Ford and Isuzu now have models available based on the double cab body with the rear seats permanently removed so at the BIK advantages still apply.

Venisonpie

4,843 posts

112 months

Friday 28th August
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Massey135 said:
I think Toyota, Ford and Isuzu now have models available based on the double cab body with the rear seats permanently removed so at the BIK advantages still apply.
Yes they do, I know someone who has a Ford and uses the rear space for her dog.

macron

13,371 posts

196 months

Friday 28th August
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Massey135 said:
I think Toyota, Ford and Isuzu now have models available based on the double cab body with the rear seats permanently removed so at the BIK advantages still apply.
Which models specifically?

Massey135

59 posts

288 months

Friday 28th August
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Ranger, HiLux, DMax “2 seat” models.

dave123456

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3,948 posts

177 months

Friday 28th August
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Massey135 said:
Ranger, HiLux, DMax 2 seat models.
They seem in very short supply

surveyor

18,691 posts

214 months

Saturday 29th August
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EV’s. Couple of pickup options and ranger next year. Or go for a van.

Hugely cheaper to run, low BIK and tax write off advantages for the business.

Its worth a look

Phooey

13,841 posts

199 months

Saturday 29th August
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surveyor said:
EV s. Couple of pickup options and ranger next year. Or go for a van.

Hugely cheaper to run, low BIK and tax write off advantages for the business.

Its worth a look
Awful range (Hilux is circa 150miles) and not sure if VAT reclaimable (payload less than 1tonne).

Kia PV5 is worth a look. Cheap as chips on a lease and full commercial tax benefits.

robinh73

1,345 posts

230 months

Saturday 29th August
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I have a 2019 Hilux which I have converted to a tipper. It is the extra cab version with the 2.4 engine and it is woeful. Fuel economy is terrible and the power is completely gutless low down. It has been reliable but I would not buy another unless the put the 2.8 engine and auto box in it.

Linkin

173 posts

187 months

Thursday 3rd September
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I have a Defender 90 Hard-Top and it's been brilliant and reliable to date.
They can be specified to look much more 'utility' and much less 'urban' !

wolf1

3,099 posts

280 months

Thursday 3rd September
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I'm sure I've seen a few firms pulling the factory beds off pickups and fitting dropside bodies to get round the new rules.

Lefty

21,368 posts

232 months

Thursday 3rd September
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Hmmm, yeah I’ve heard if they’re registered as a dropside they’re not caught by the DCOU rules.

I’m not convinced

LukeB_92

18 posts

1 month

Monday 28th September
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Just to pick up on the dropside point — the rules here are pretty mechanical and don't leave much room for clever workarounds. Since 6 April 2025, a double-cab with a payload under 1 tonne is taxed as a car for both BIK and capital allowances. The test is the manufacturer's payload rating on the plate, not what gets bolted on afterwards, so pulling the bed off and fitting a dropside doesn't change the tax treatment. HMRC will look straight through anything cosmetic.

The real line in the sand is 1 tonne. Anything at or over that is still a commercial vehicle: 100% annual investment allowance, VAT reclaim, and flat-rate van BIK rather than car BIK. That's why the factory single-cab and genuine 2-seat N1 versions exist — the manufacturers build them to clear that threshold properly, which is a different thing entirely from a converter doing cosmetic surgery on a double-cab.

The Defender Hard Top and the Kia PV5 mentioned above are both proper N1 commercials, so they get the full commercial treatment. Whichever route you take, make sure it's plated as N1 with the payload to match before you sign the lease paperwork — that's the bit that decides everything.