Anyone watching "Make me a million" on Ch4?
Discussion
Missed the first one it seems but caught this last night. I guess it is Ch4's take on Dragons Den. I have to say you kind of wonder about these mentors, I like the Ivan chap but the other 2 just seem to be a bit David Brent, keep coming out with random words of wisdom and naff quotes. Fair play to them as they have obviously been succesful, but my lord it does make you wonder.
I've been watching and spend most of my time f'ing and spitting at the TV.
OK, without the 'Millionaires' worth xxx million (the last time this phrase was used was for the Red letter days lady!, anyway without these millionaires how easy would it be to get to meet the top brass at say Tesco's?
Also, the baby shampoo people should be thrown out simply because they've started as a team, pushed the ginger hunny out and the other woman simply works as the 'millionaires' pa.
OK, without the 'Millionaires' worth xxx million (the last time this phrase was used was for the Red letter days lady!, anyway without these millionaires how easy would it be to get to meet the top brass at say Tesco's?
Also, the baby shampoo people should be thrown out simply because they've started as a team, pushed the ginger hunny out and the other woman simply works as the 'millionaires' pa.
Also would you turn up to a meeting with the head buyer of Dreams without anything more than a notepad and pen?
No presentation, samples, literature to leave, nothing!
They don't deserve to get the chance that they have got when there are lots and lots of 'proper' company's out there would would jump at the chance.
IMHO of course
John
No presentation, samples, literature to leave, nothing!
They don't deserve to get the chance that they have got when there are lots and lots of 'proper' company's out there would would jump at the chance.
IMHO of course
John
Agree with all the points raised so far.
LEAN - If they can't even describe their product they shouldn't have got the position.
BEDS - Has potential but does seem expensive. They're idiots for not having a working prototype and expecting sales too. If it wasn't for the bird's father inventing the product they'd be no-where.
Shampoo - Post above about Tescos... TOO RIGHT! How they got that so easily I have no idea?!?
Overall its a bit of a joke program. Has potential but I just don't think any of them are entrepreneurs or even got a bit of business sense. It's just typical "I wanna be on TV" type people.
Fun TV though
LEAN - If they can't even describe their product they shouldn't have got the position.
BEDS - Has potential but does seem expensive. They're idiots for not having a working prototype and expecting sales too. If it wasn't for the bird's father inventing the product they'd be no-where.
Shampoo - Post above about Tescos... TOO RIGHT! How they got that so easily I have no idea?!?
Overall its a bit of a joke program. Has potential but I just don't think any of them are entrepreneurs or even got a bit of business sense. It's just typical "I wanna be on TV" type people.
Fun TV though
Its utterly cringeworthy telly.
But...strangely compelling viewing, I've found.
No idea what the 3 mentors have made their moola in, although for the woman I'd guess at sex change procedures - she was clearly known as "Derek" in the recent past.
The Irish single mum (properly) got what was coming to her - she simply wasn't pulling her weight, and just trying to talk her way out of the situation she had put herself in. I mean, FFS, you've got a 9 month old nipper and you want to try starting a business on your jack, with no support? Contrast her with the admittedly dim other woman who had clearly put her life on hold (albeit to become a doormat for the mentor to walk all over). Rolled my eyes when red headed mummy blamed everyone but herself as well. Poor love. Back to Dublin you go. Finally, what utter spinlessness by the mentor, brings poor old Ginger in, bollox her for being slack, says we're not happy with your work load, you're no longer a director etc etc, oh, and can we have your laptop back before you go? Ginge goes to Internet cafe and finds she has mail: From: Mentor To: Ginge Subject: You are fired Nice one mate, haven't got the balls to say it to her face, how cowardly.
The other pair of losers? Married bed fan selling man traps off with the young (annoying whiny voiced) go-getter - well, they were flogging beds, I guess they were going to try one out at some point.
And - lets face it - it was her, or Miss Has Stand Up When She Pisses.
As for Martha and Arthur, well, what exactly were they selling? They didn't have a clue.
Recommended.
But...strangely compelling viewing, I've found.
No idea what the 3 mentors have made their moola in, although for the woman I'd guess at sex change procedures - she was clearly known as "Derek" in the recent past.
The Irish single mum (properly) got what was coming to her - she simply wasn't pulling her weight, and just trying to talk her way out of the situation she had put herself in. I mean, FFS, you've got a 9 month old nipper and you want to try starting a business on your jack, with no support? Contrast her with the admittedly dim other woman who had clearly put her life on hold (albeit to become a doormat for the mentor to walk all over). Rolled my eyes when red headed mummy blamed everyone but herself as well. Poor love. Back to Dublin you go. Finally, what utter spinlessness by the mentor, brings poor old Ginger in, bollox her for being slack, says we're not happy with your work load, you're no longer a director etc etc, oh, and can we have your laptop back before you go? Ginge goes to Internet cafe and finds she has mail: From: Mentor To: Ginge Subject: You are fired Nice one mate, haven't got the balls to say it to her face, how cowardly.
The other pair of losers? Married bed fan selling man traps off with the young (annoying whiny voiced) go-getter - well, they were flogging beds, I guess they were going to try one out at some point.
And - lets face it - it was her, or Miss Has Stand Up When She Pisses.
As for Martha and Arthur, well, what exactly were they selling? They didn't have a clue.
Recommended.
I watched the first episode for about 20 minutes and then turned off. I was really disappointed that Channel 4 couldn't find 3 people (groups) with decent, original ideas. The bed couple didn't come up with their idea at all, it was taken from her Dad, the 2 blokes, well, I couldn't actually work out what their idea was and the 2 women didn't even have an idea. Jeez.
I think the programme is more of a vehicle for the "millionaires" to boast about their wealth than anything else.
I think the programme is more of a vehicle for the "millionaires" to boast about their wealth than anything else.
RushDriver said:
Also would you turn up to a meeting with the head buyer of Dreams without anything more than a notepad and pen?
No presentation, samples, literature to leave, nothing!
They don't deserve to get the chance that they have got when there are lots and lots of 'proper' company's out there would would jump at the chance.
IMHO of course
John
When I worked on placement & M&S there were people who turned up to meet senior buyers with less. One group came from Japan with a web link to some scientific research & some recycled flip chart material in Japanese
I caught the last 20 minutes yesterday - cringeworthy (tears, babies, relationship breakdowns, confrontations, etc..) A soap opera disguising as a documentary.
That aside, the whole concept is fundamentally flawed. If you've got a product you're trying to sell and you say to Tescos "will you stock my product?" - they probably won't. However, if you say to Tescos "will you stock my product? And by the way, I'll be bringing along a 20 strong film crew so Tescos will be on prime time TV, showing sympathy to a budding entrepreneur, so you'll get lots of free PR." - you might not be shown the door so quickly.
That aside, the whole concept is fundamentally flawed. If you've got a product you're trying to sell and you say to Tescos "will you stock my product?" - they probably won't. However, if you say to Tescos "will you stock my product? And by the way, I'll be bringing along a 20 strong film crew so Tescos will be on prime time TV, showing sympathy to a budding entrepreneur, so you'll get lots of free PR." - you might not be shown the door so quickly.
srebbe64 said:
I caught the last 20 minutes yesterday - cringeworthy (tears, babies, relationship breakdowns, confrontations, etc..) A soap opera disguising as a documentary.
That aside, the whole concept is fundamentally flawed. If you've got a product you're trying to sell and you say to Tescos "will you stock my product?" - they probably won't. However, if you say to Tescos "will you stock my product? And by the way, I'll be bringing along a 20 strong film crew so Tescos will be on prime time TV, showing sympathy to a budding entrepreneur, so you'll get lots of free PR." - you might not be shown the door so quickly.
I thought that too, especially with Tesco rolling out the product across the whole group (rather than trialing in a few select stores first) - It is a good product though - however, wasn't it the milionaires idea in the first place? I rate the brunette but he could have paid her £40k pa to do the job she is doing. Ginge was crap, but why wait a few days to sack her? and why not get more to the point and just say 'your 4 months too late'?
I actually think the 'health advice centre for the individual' is a really good idea, not sure if it will work though.
Bed people - the girl is so annoying/defensive, both don;t really have a clue.
Another point, apart from the mobile phone guy (charles dunstone?) the others have never diversed from their one specialism (guy-gay insurance, woman-training services) fair enough the guy has got a real coup in the tesco deal but the woman has never sold products, only trainign services.
I always thought a true entrepreneur (I cannot spell!) was someone who could make money in different fields?
aceparts_com said:
How much to employ a small film crew? I might try the above technique with B&Q.
I have a camcorder, however if you want me on board I will need 25% equity stake in your business, a salary of £35K from day 1. I am already fully committed to this project, even though I have no idea what it is, and will convince you of this by spending 4 months trying to find childcare, I will then turn up and burst into tears (possibly having slept with your wife/girlfriend). Sound good.
Prof Higgins said:
I have a camcorder, however if you want me on board I will need 25% equity stake in your business, a salary of £35K from day 1. I am already fully committed to this project, even though I have no idea what it is, and will convince you of this by spending 4 months trying to find childcare, I will then turn up and burst into tears (possibly having slept with your wife/girlfriend). Sound good.
you're my ideal employee!!! when can you start?! very excited!
Im enjoying the program....what the mentors do is what I do as a job (hopefulyl rather better than the tubtastic lady who is, as someone said, like David Brent). Think the other two are very good, and I feel incredibly sorry for Ivan and both the 2 girls - must be a horrible situation to be in....very impressed with how fast they got in Tesco's too....but it IS doable
re: couple having affair...funnily enough, Mrs N had said within ten mins of the first program that if I spent all day with that woman she'd be worried. seems she was right! have no sympathy for the bloke crying and sobbing either....no-one made him stick his dick in her after all....people really need to learn f**king self control!
>> Edited by nightmare on Friday 11th November 14:16
Watched this AND dragons den rubbish tonight hoping to pick up a few tips.
It would appear to me that if they had any entrepreneurial flair they'd be doing the projects anyway (D's Den) and the easiest way to become a millionaire is to befriend one!
Bring back Risking it all. Better still, bring back Risking it all revisited!
It would appear to me that if they had any entrepreneurial flair they'd be doing the projects anyway (D's Den) and the easiest way to become a millionaire is to befriend one!
Bring back Risking it all. Better still, bring back Risking it all revisited!
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