Kleeneze
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denisb

Original Poster:

509 posts

278 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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Has anybody has any involvement with this company in terms of selling it's products?

How did it go?

mcflurry

9,184 posts

276 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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It can be ok, but as with all MLMs you have to be fairly high up the tree to make any decent ££

My father in law does it, but only makes £ rather than ££..

vex

5,259 posts

269 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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My Cousin does it and must be getting quite high up.

She bought a mini off the profits this year.

She did get in quite early though.

speedchick

5,271 posts

245 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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I do it.

Have been doing it since April, doesn't cost much to start up, work your own hours... do as much or little as you want.

Earnings can be pretty good. They work out better with team building, I just had a pay cheque for just short of £500 from retailling only, my upline got a cheque for about £900, there is about 5 of us in his team, he hit 18% profit bonus, I got 13% profit (that's on top of your retail profit)

How much more info do you want?

>> Edited by speedchick on Wednesday 21st December 21:30

denisb

Original Poster:

509 posts

278 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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speedchick, thanks for the offer.

How many catalogs do you issue?

How many hours a week of your time does consume?

Any gotchas to watch out for?

denisb

Original Poster:

509 posts

278 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Oh yeah, and do you have any competitor teams in you area that you are working 'against'?

speedchick

5,271 posts

245 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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I usually put out about 200 catalogues a week, time taken depends on the spread of the area, as I do all mine by foot (hey I get paid to keep fit!) usually about 15 hours a week out with the catalogues, couple of hours a week on paperwork/ordering/repacking catalogues, and then depending on the orders and where they are that can usually take one evening (normally Friday for me)

Gotchas.... er well, there is a Victor Meldrew type on each street, some people like the catalogues that much that they want to keep them! (strange people), this generally happens when you are blanket dropping (ie going to every house in the street while you find out who to keep dropping to, catalogue losses run at about 10% average,) once you have established a customer base, you time goes down somewhat, your order value per catalogue goes up and you losses diminish completely.

You will always get one customer that orders and then messes you about, 'oh come such and such a day' and then after going about 4 times I generally get fed up and send the order back.

You don't get given set areas, go where you want, obviously if there are already 3 in the area, it may be an idea to gove it a miss! I was working my area and there were another 3 distributors, one gave up and gave me his catalogues, one gave up and passed on details of her customers/rounds to me, which I have incorporated into mine.... we had sat down and worked out between where we were both going, so she didn't do 'my area' and I didn't do hers...works great if you can do that.

The other one is still going strong, can sometimes give me a problem, but he is only in this area one week a month. I work on a 5 week cycle so it depends where I am when he ventures into town as to what kind of impact it has.

You start earning straight away, the basic starter kit cost £75, and you get that back after your first 12 months from Kleeneze anyway (it includes all you need to start and your first 50 catalogues)

Your upline (if I was to sign you up, that would be me) gives plenty of support, as do people further up the line, the team I'm in is very good for support, there is always someone available to help, whatever the problem, and the team is retailing really well at the moment, we are one of the highest retail teams, and the person at the top of the team is the daughter of one of the original door to door salesmen!

There are other incentives, cars, all expenses paid trip to far out places for international and European conferences, the more you retail/team build the more amazing your earnings can be. Great recognition/rewards.

If you want, email me your phone number and give me a time to phone you and I can phone you up and answer questions a bit better, and then if you even more interested, I can send you an information pack, we can get you signed up and you can start the new year with a new venture! (my sponsor does his aswell as a full time job) Same applies to anyone else that's interested!

denisb

Original Poster:

509 posts

278 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Thanks for the input speedchick.

Unfortunately my wife has already signed up with someone so I can't chuck any business your way.

I was trying to make sure that she hadn't wasted her money (100 quid now, not 75) and wouldn't end up wasting a lot more. Sounds like the worst that will happen is she may give up before starting to earn any money.

We'll give it a go and pull out if we start making a loss.

speedchick

5,271 posts

245 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Ok DenisB no problem.

One thing I will say is, don't be too quick to give it up. I was told to blanket drop for 3 cycles before you start dropping the people that don't even bother to look at the catalogue (well if they haven't looked on the first three times then they aint gonna ever look)

Treat as what it is, a business, the first 6 months to a year is building the foundations for it, give it a fair chance.

And good luck with it.

Oh, are you going to the conference in January? and the dinner dance?

mcflurry

9,184 posts

276 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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You can also use the catalogues twice, as they only change the front covers 6 monthly...

Saves 50p per house drop.

Personally I use them for cat litter, as 99% of the stuff is cheaper elsewhere,

I have asked our local agent not to post them to me, but as she still does, it means that our cats get to do their business on adverts for £6.99 fridge defrosters

MarkoTVR

1,139 posts

257 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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I did Kleeneze a few years back, and even though I only did it for a few months, I did make a small amount of money on it. As has been said, the higher are you up in MLM hierarchies, the greater the potential earnings. From my experience, you either need to be lucky enough to be in a 'good area' where buyers are rife, or go at it hell for leather to get real earnings (from selling and network expansion). Obviously, you need to make sure you don't saturate your area, otherwise nobody makes anything because there's too much competition / everyone gives up and you lose your downstream.

I would also say don't underestimate the time it takes to do the drops/pickups/order processing/catalogue packing/administration/advertising/recruiting. Yes you can fit it around a normal job, but for me that meant being up at 6am to do drops, going to work/coming home, doing more Kleeneze stuff until anything up to midnight. That's spoken from experience, not scepticism. It won't be 15mins here and there. (I'm sure you know this as the original post in this thread is old, but for the purposes of anyone new out there.....)

Overall, I wouldn't write any MLM off (I also did another one, Herbalife) but the results you're looking for won't be given to you on a plate, unless your exceptionally lucky. If that's the case, play the Lottery more!! (and remember me when you win.....)