£165k investment
£165k investment
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hobo

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6,395 posts

269 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Assuming you'd just got a lump sum of the above amount & you had no intent in touching it for say 5 years, what/where would be the best return available.

Has to be 'guaranteed', ie not invested in anything which could lose & therefore looking at bonds, etc.

Help you be much appreciated.

Best I've seen in 2 year bond @ 5.6% per annum which basically means the £ 165k would be £ 182.5 after 2 years.

Edited by hobo on Thursday 5th October 12:17

jago

247 posts

242 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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shouldn't the calc be 165*1.056^2? I'm rusty so probably wrong.

hobo

Original Poster:

6,395 posts

269 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Maybe. Only look breifly on C&G website. This however was for something like a £5000 min desposit account. Surely there's better rates to be had for a larger investment.

Steve_T

6,356 posts

295 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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jago said:
shouldn't the calc be 165*1.056^2? I'm rusty so probably wrong.


You're right assuming you can re-invest the first year's coupon at the same rate as the bond.

trackdemon

13,226 posts

284 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Buy property in student area, take consistant rental income over 5 years in addition to capital appreciation. Win-win.

jago

247 posts

242 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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stick £30k in premium bonds, transfer 7k a year from that pool into isa for your tax allowance, stick the rest into the best 5yr deal you can find on the high st. if interest rates go up - then being tied into a bond might not be as attractive as it looks right now. edit: i'm personally terrified of property but what do i know and hi steve.

Edited by jago on Thursday 5th October 12:43

superlightr

12,920 posts

286 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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no intent of touching it for 5 years.

Hmmm

Things change, 5 years is a long time. I have done bonds for 6 years in the past but not again as its too restrictive. House moves/family requirements/ etc.

Clear max the ISA's, then max PBonds and the rest in a high int deposit a/c perhaps a 30/60/90 day notice a/c

nightmare

5,278 posts

307 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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give it to me and I'll guarantee returning 300 in 5 years. how does that sound?

rico

7,917 posts

278 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Lambo Miura

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

275 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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jago said:
stick £30k in premium bonds, transfer 7k a year from that pool into isa for your tax allowance


nice...so stick £30k somewhere pants and then use a non-guaranteed investment for the £7k.

AlastairM

537 posts

292 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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stick it here!
www.lcplc.co.uk and look at the 5.65% savings rate.

magic torch

5,781 posts

245 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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nightmare said:
give it to me and I'll guarantee returning 300 in 5 years. how does that sound?


Sounds great. 25% per annum return?

I'd be up for that.

Jared_m

252 posts

245 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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I agree with the suggestions above, Premium Bonds are a good idea as is maxing your ISA allowance.

I can understand you don't wanna risk that kind of money but if you're prepared invest a small amount (£25-30k) you could look at seed stage investment - www.hotbed.uk.com/ - it can be exciting if you've got a nose for a good business model.

I'd also suggest doing some research in the stock market and taking £10-15k and investing directly into some companies.

Both of these are high risk investments so only do them if you know what you're doing. Oh, and go find a really good IFA to help you understand the real risks and benefits of any investment strategy.

nightmare

5,278 posts

307 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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additionally...and without wanting to sound like a patronising tosser (which I am)...people who invest that much money into 'guaranteed' returns of 5-6% will never end up driving supercars and being rich. just a thought

GIMPTON

213 posts

293 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Do you get an allowance of £7k per person for ISA's?

Just about to start looking at the same, although not £165k

Should have around £65-70K to invest, any other ideas as i am prepare to take a little more risk

ScottNicol

186 posts

235 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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comon this is simple, buy a property in a student area and rent it out over 5 years easy income and your property will go up in value a good bit in 5 years.

jago

247 posts

242 months

Friday 6th October 2006
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Tiggsy said:
jago said:
stick £30k in premium bonds, transfer 7k a year from that pool into isa for your tax allowance


nice...so stick £30k somewhere pants and then use a non-guaranteed investment for the £7k.

well like above, you're not going to get rich with this type of investment, but never know could get lucky. 7k could be cash. not that silly, but i'm sure there's better advice.

ScottNicol

186 posts

235 months

Friday 6th October 2006
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oh and mate, there is nothing 'gaurenteed' as you state

Fiddlemesticks

14,452 posts

239 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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I personally think Premium Bonds are a bit of a waste. My clients average returns from these are 4.5% pa. Basically a lottery with the chances of winning big higher than the normal lotto. I'd give them a miss and try something else as they're just a bit of fun, not a realistic financial planning method.

5.6% isnt bad actually so worth a punt.

Even on the £1m funds that I occassionally have dealt in there isnt a lot more than that unless you start to speculate.

Cant do cash isa for £7k so for the £3k allowance you might get, ooh about £150 per annum. wow... Better than nothing actually.

How about you stick it offshore getting 7% plus from a foreign account if possible and just use a credit card to spend it back in the uk when needed in 5 years. That way you are not officially brining money back to the UK when the time comes.

leosayer

7,686 posts

267 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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Fiddlemesticks said:
How about you stick it offshore getting 7% plus from a foreign account if possible and just use a credit card to spend it back in the uk when needed in 5 years. That way you are not officially brining money back to the UK when the time comes.
If you're earning income abroad then you need to declare it in the tax year you earn it, regardless of whether you bring it back to the UK or not.