Woodland in the South East
Woodland in the South East
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wtd

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818 posts

256 months

Tuesday 7th November 2006
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Guys, anyone know the long term expected returns on investing in woodland in the south east?

I'm kinda interested in buying a plot of woodland in the south east of england, ultimately as a long term investment, not looking for massive gains, but something that will yield a interest matching return in 10-15 years..

something like this:
www.woodlands.co.uk/par-tag-wood.htm

shadowninja

79,375 posts

305 months

Tuesday 7th November 2006
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I was wondering about this sort of thing. Planning permission isn't guaranteed, is it, though? (I see it has a tree preservation order, too.)

You could probably build a yoga retreat... silly

Stephanie Plum

2,797 posts

234 months

Tuesday 7th November 2006
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I hate to state the bleeding obvious, and if I am apologies in advance, but you are aware that woodland requires attention aren't you? You can't just leave it for 15 years amassing hoped for interest for you - check out that covenant that you have to sign - you'll be responsible for footpaths, fencing, access issues etc etc, removing rubbish that will inevitably be dumped, stolen cars abandoned and burnt out etc etc

Land requires attention - constantly. If you aren't really interested in the land there must be better ways of investing your dosh?

It won't be worth much more than you paid for it in 15 years either - there's no point to it as you can't do anything - no pp, no grazing rights, it's just there. Most people who buy these plots aren't doing it to make money, just trying to preserve part of our countryside.

Sorry if this seems a downer on your plans but you could be throwing your money away.......

shadowninja

79,375 posts

305 months

Tuesday 7th November 2006
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But look at the bluebells. silly

billsnemesis

817 posts

260 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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and the flashers...

there must be a smiley somewhere for that, why can't I find it?

wtd

Original Poster:

818 posts

256 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Stephanie Plum said:
I hate to state the bleeding obvious, and if I am apologies in advance, but you are aware that woodland requires attention aren't you? You can't just leave it for 15 years amassing hoped for interest for you - check out that covenant that you have to sign - you'll be responsible for footpaths, fencing, access issues etc etc, removing rubbish that will inevitably be dumped, stolen cars abandoned and burnt out etc etc

Land requires attention - constantly. If you aren't really interested in the land there must be better ways of investing your dosh?

It won't be worth much more than you paid for it in 15 years either - there's no point to it as you can't do anything - no pp, no grazing rights, it's just there. Most people who buy these plots aren't doing it to make money, just trying to preserve part of our countryside.

Sorry if this seems a downer on your plans but you could be throwing your money away.......


Thanks, I didn't realise that you would have to clean it up etc so thats a good point.

Davel

8,982 posts

281 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Many years ago, we visited a 'tax planning expert' in London.

He admitted that he'd got his sums wrong a while earler by investing £1m in woodlands and the return wasn't worthwhile.

It was ages ago so things might be different now - just be very careful!

superlightr

12,920 posts

286 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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The covenant is a bit restrictive -


do any rough shooting or pest control at times or in a manner constituting a nuisance or danger to any neighbour;
use the land for any sort of racing whether with motor bikes, cars or other vehicles;
use the land for a commercial campsite;
use the land for a clay pigeon shooting;
conduct any business from the land apart from forestry;
use the land in a way which will damage the access tracks.
The purchaser and successors in title shall not erect any signboards visible from the public highway



I would only want to do rough shooting and a bit of paint balling with friends and bet you would come across problems with the covenant. Its not as if its near much.

Thats the only reason I would buy it.

d stanley

97 posts

265 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Planning permssion is absolutely guaranteed in woodland...

YOU WILL NOT GET ANY

unless...

you canprove that you must be on the land at all times to conduct a business related to the land. Unless you fancy becoming a charcoal burner or a full time bodger you cannot live in woodland.

FUBAR

17,065 posts

261 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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wtd said:
Guys, anyone know the long term expected returns on investing in woodland in the south east?

I'm kinda interested in buying a plot of woodland in the south east of england, ultimately as a long term investment, not looking for massive gains, but something that will yield a interest matching return in 10-15 years..

something like this:
www.woodlands.co.uk/par-tag-wood.htm


That wood is about 2 miles from my parents place. If its the same place I think it is, it used to be owned/used by some Krusties for raves. Lots of trees to deaden the sound

Its also close to, if not directly under, the Gatwick flight path

HTH

As for woods in general