Property Developers - How do you source your land ??
Property Developers - How do you source your land ??
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ScottNicol

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186 posts

235 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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From a few of the topics we have had on here recently, there seems to be a few of us developers on here, im just curious to see how each developer manages to get their hands on the land they are building on.

Look forward to hearing how some of you do it, how i do it is below !!

Architects - they are very very useful for land with planning concents
Agents - tends to be expensive and very hard to buy from them
Other Developers - always keep in touch as they might want to trade land or dispose of a site for planning gain
The Council - i keep a very close eye on the planning app's on the councils website and get in touch with vendors
Word Of Mouth - one of the best ways is just to tell people in the industry you are after land constantly

im sure there is loads more but id like to here your versions of how you do things

hobo

6,397 posts

269 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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Auctions

superlightr

12,920 posts

286 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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ply your local letting and estate agent with lots of chocolates and buns.........

FUBAR

17,065 posts

261 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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Technically we are an investment company, but Auctions and Word of Mouth are the main routes (with the occasional nod and from selective local agents )

Oh, and (as we buy in specific areas) getting out of the office and driving around (its actually a ruse to get out and go for a ruby somewhere, but dont tell the guvnor hehe)

JOETHETOE

548 posts

240 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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Hi,

We talk to agents very regularly and get some sites this way, but as above in that most of our sites come from word of mouth, or through friends of people that we have done deals with before, would not buy at auction at the mo, havent seen anything decent for a while, stupid prices are being acheived where ii am 41-44% of GDV!!!!!
Cheers

Joe

ScottNicol

Original Poster:

186 posts

235 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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44% is a bit crazy !!! you wonder why people bother at that sort of cash !!

i dont like to go above 27% GDV , usually try and pay around 22% of GDV

TDIPLC

4,973 posts

231 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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www.myperfectplot.com is a land finding agent for UK and interntional land.

Hope this helps

minimax

11,985 posts

279 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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superlightr said:
ply your local letting and estate agent with lots of chocolates and buns.........



yes thumbup

FUBAR

17,065 posts

261 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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superlightr said:
ply your local letting and estate agent with lots of chocolates and buns.........


Or bung him a few quid

JOETHETOE

548 posts

240 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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ScottNicol said:
44% is a bit crazy !!! you wonder why people bother at that sort of cash !!

i dont like to go above 27% GDV , usually try and pay around 22% of GDV



Hi Scott i agrre it is crazy, but in London that is what we are seeing, this is with planning though of course. where abouts do you work?

we are looking abroad at the mo just because of this!

Cheers

Joe

ScottNicol

Original Poster:

186 posts

235 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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Ayrshire up in Scotland.

I can understand why it is 44%, its London !!

where are you looking abroad and why ?

POORCARDEALER

8,640 posts

264 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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Just sold a .66 acre site with planning.....the price I got was ridiculous in my view, but clearly somebody thinks they can turn a profit on it. The market for land is sheer crazy in my view.

ScottNicol

Original Poster:

186 posts

235 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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wot did it have planning for ?

POORCARDEALER

8,640 posts

264 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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houses and flats............

martin hunt

301 posts

291 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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I have just been offered some land

Not sure exactly what size yet but had planning permission for 20 Semi Detached houses in 1974, anyone care to give a rough value on it today? to help me out to see if I can go for it?

ScottNicol

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186 posts

235 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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where is the land ? where in am , Ayrshire Scotland, id expect to pay about 35k for a semi detached plot


Edited by ScottNicol on Thursday 4th January 21:08

hobo

6,397 posts

269 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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Isn't it basically all about thirds ?

Work out how much the 22 house will sell for & then a third of this is what you should be paying for the land.

ie. if one of the semi's is worth 150k then the total for 22 no. is £3.3 million. On this basis £1.1 million for land, £1.1 million for build, £1.1 million profits.

If only it was that simple.

FUBAR

17,065 posts

261 months

Thursday 4th January 2007
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hobo said:
Isn't it basically all about thirds ?

.

:whistfulsigh: Those where the days

martin hunt

301 posts

291 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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The Land is in West Devon and I Have been offered 1 plot for a 4 bed detached for £45k and the whole lot for for development of 12 semis and 10 detached houses.

I like the third approach I may go with that (allthough £1.1 Million is a bit scary !!!)

bean455

674 posts

231 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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Hi Guys,just joined,like the topic,I have started a Property development Company with two friends,got a few things going now,we have at our fingertips 44000 acres in the UK.Got a 308 acre piece of land we bought an option on,two years ago,land value in South Wales with planning consent approx 1.25 million an acre,Cardiff 1.5.We have a few plots available without planning,if we sell them we will in the terms guarantee the planning.Let me know if I can help.