Employees with Company Laptops and Mobiles
Employees with Company Laptops and Mobiles
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seandudding

Original Poster:

495 posts

280 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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Guys

Strated giving laptops and mobiles to employees. Should we make them sign a doc syaing they are responsible for them etc and that any personal calls need to be paid for???

David Godfrey

3,857 posts

254 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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We have an acceptable use policy which covers this but to be honest it's very difficult to enforce complience.

For mobile phones when the bills come in if someone's over a benchmark figure we have a chat which normally sorts the problem. Have only once had a reoccurance of "abuse" in the time I have been in IT.

Laptops are more difficult to protect by there nature, they get hauled arround the world.

Mostly people care about things that there given, there will always be exceptions though.


JustinP1

13,363 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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Yes.

Unless of course you are generous and like paying out for laptops and phone calls.

In which case, can I have both please!?

mouseymousey

2,642 posts

267 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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Just make sure the laptops at least are covered by an insurance policy. I wouldn't want a company laptop if I was responsible for replacing it if it got stolen.


AndyAudi

4,020 posts

252 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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We all got a presentation, handout , and doc's to sign along with our laptops.

It is very clear that we are reponsible and will be held financially liable should ours go missing without being able to demonstrate we took care not to be stolen.
examples given for Laptop stolen from Car
Locked in the boot - Employee 0% liable (unless it was put in the boot whilst not on a company site then 50%)
Not locked and taken from passenger seat Employee 100% liable
Locked to fixed point on car but visable eg steering wheel 50% Liable

Harsh but fair



JustinP1

13,363 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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AndyAudi said:
We all got a presentation, handout , and doc's to sign along with our laptops.

It is very clear that we are reponsible and will be held financially liable should ours go missing without being able to demonstrate we took care not to be stolen.
examples given for Laptop stolen from Car
Locked in the boot - Employee 0% liable (unless it was put in the boot whilst not on a company site then 50%)
Not locked and taken from passenger seat Employee 100% liable
Locked to fixed point on car but visable eg steering wheel 50% Liable

Harsh but fair
Agreed.

This is the best way forward. Unfortunatley a minority of people don't take care of things unless they have a physical motivation to!

If the item is in effect a tool as part of their employment, then I think technically you could not take action for loss or damage UNLESS the loss or damage was as a direct cause of negligence. What you have explained gives fair examples of where the line of drawn IMHO.

Eric Mc

125,790 posts

295 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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I presume you've factored in the taxable Benefit in Kind costs.

thewave

14,870 posts

239 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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No taxable benefit in kind on mobiles 'loaned' to employees.

Computers no BIK so long as the value does not exceed £2,500, and the personal use of the computer is 'not significant'


Edited by thewave on Thursday 20th September 15:03

Eric Mc

125,790 posts

295 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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I just brought the topic up in case it hadn't been considered at all.

I remember reading recently that there could be an instant BIK if the employee had the use of more than one mobile phone. That meant that use of a mobile and some other device (such as a Blackberry) could trigger a BIK.

thewave

14,870 posts

239 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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Eric Mc said:
I just brought the topic up in case it hadn't been considered at all.

I remember reading recently that there could be an instant BIK if the employee had the use of more than one mobile phone. That meant that use of a mobile and some other device (such as a Blackberry) could trigger a BIK.
That's right, as from 06/04/06 employers were able to loan out as many mobiles to an employee as they likes with no BIK, thus whole families were being armed with them hehe

Now however, it's restricted to one per employee

Catherine197

9,586 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th September 2007
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I'm starting a new job on Monday and earlier this week I received a form from purchasing relating to a fax machine. It basically was to acknowledge it as their property and that should I leave and not return it, then they will deduct £100 from any money owed to me.

I'm guessing I will get something similar when I get a mobile from them on Monday.