Mesh wifi system - currently got google wifi, cant extend?
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Old victorian nunnery - big rooms + solid thick walls = rubbish wifi.
5 years ago set up 3 of the google wifi puck things and wifi has been much better and we are happy. Not always perfect and quite often needs resetting.
Loft conversion and side extension recently completed, but no wifi.
Bought another 3 pucks and tried to set them up - after numerous attempts, resetting, hard wiring, ap deleting and 3hrs on the phone to Mirium from google they have confirmed that the new pucks wont integrate with my older versions.
Options are buy 3 more new pucks and bin my old ones, or try a different system.
Biggest sticking point is we need a seperate ‘guest wifi’ for a holiday let attached to the house.
We have a bt homehub6, we also have wired, unused, network points in all rooms so could hardwire something?
5 years ago set up 3 of the google wifi puck things and wifi has been much better and we are happy. Not always perfect and quite often needs resetting.
Loft conversion and side extension recently completed, but no wifi.
Bought another 3 pucks and tried to set them up - after numerous attempts, resetting, hard wiring, ap deleting and 3hrs on the phone to Mirium from google they have confirmed that the new pucks wont integrate with my older versions.
Options are buy 3 more new pucks and bin my old ones, or try a different system.
Biggest sticking point is we need a seperate ‘guest wifi’ for a holiday let attached to the house.
We have a bt homehub6, we also have wired, unused, network points in all rooms so could hardwire something?
Blakeatron said:
Old victorian nunnery - big rooms + solid thick walls = rubbish wifi.
5 years ago set up 3 of the google wifi puck things and wifi has been much better and we are happy. Not always perfect and quite often needs resetting.
Loft conversion and side extension recently completed, but no wifi.
Bought another 3 pucks and tried to set them up - after numerous attempts, resetting, hard wiring, ap deleting and 3hrs on the phone to Mirium from google they have confirmed that the new pucks wont integrate with my older versions.
Options are buy 3 more new pucks and bin my old ones, or try a different system.
Biggest sticking point is we need a seperate ‘guest wifi’ for a holiday let attached to the house.
We have a bt homehub6, we also have wired, unused, network points in all rooms so could hardwire something?
We have Amplifi HD Mesh with 2 extenders, it's fab.5 years ago set up 3 of the google wifi puck things and wifi has been much better and we are happy. Not always perfect and quite often needs resetting.
Loft conversion and side extension recently completed, but no wifi.
Bought another 3 pucks and tried to set them up - after numerous attempts, resetting, hard wiring, ap deleting and 3hrs on the phone to Mirium from google they have confirmed that the new pucks wont integrate with my older versions.
Options are buy 3 more new pucks and bin my old ones, or try a different system.
Biggest sticking point is we need a seperate ‘guest wifi’ for a holiday let attached to the house.
We have a bt homehub6, we also have wired, unused, network points in all rooms so could hardwire something?
Blakeatron said:
Old victorian nunnery - big rooms + solid thick walls = rubbish wifi.
5 years ago set up 3 of the google wifi puck things and wifi has been much better and we are happy. Not always perfect and quite often needs resetting.
Loft conversion and side extension recently completed, but no wifi.
Bought another 3 pucks and tried to set them up - after numerous attempts, resetting, hard wiring, ap deleting and 3hrs on the phone to Mirium from google they have confirmed that the new pucks wont integrate with my older versions.
Options are buy 3 more new pucks and bin my old ones, or try a different system.
Biggest sticking point is we need a seperate ‘guest wifi’ for a holiday let attached to the house.
We have a bt homehub6, we also have wired, unused, network points in all rooms so could hardwire something?
Interesting that they didn't make them backwardly compatible and a bit of a crap trick not to make that clear ahead of shelling out.5 years ago set up 3 of the google wifi puck things and wifi has been much better and we are happy. Not always perfect and quite often needs resetting.
Loft conversion and side extension recently completed, but no wifi.
Bought another 3 pucks and tried to set them up - after numerous attempts, resetting, hard wiring, ap deleting and 3hrs on the phone to Mirium from google they have confirmed that the new pucks wont integrate with my older versions.
Options are buy 3 more new pucks and bin my old ones, or try a different system.
Biggest sticking point is we need a seperate ‘guest wifi’ for a holiday let attached to the house.
We have a bt homehub6, we also have wired, unused, network points in all rooms so could hardwire something?
I've got 4 of the original pucks and did think another might help in a weaker point of the house, sounds like that isn't an option.
Going back to your original point, you've already got 3 of each version, it would make sense (financially) to replace the older 3 rather than rip out all of them, could you not find some older versions on Ebay etc?
wired is obviously the best if you can do it so its worth investigating that as an option.
the next question is how much do you want to spend, the Orbi's are good but expensive and you pay for features you don't need, think Jag when you need a fiesta.
Maybe its time to bite the bullet and replace the googles with a fresh set of something else
I use the BT whole Home. I'm not a fan of the form factor, but they do a good job, I've recently added a fourth to my previous 3 due to poor signal in the conservatory. I've been running them probably 3.5 years and they've been rock solid. So I can recommend them. They have 3 versions at different price points and they come in multiples packs. Direct from BT seems to be the best way
the next question is how much do you want to spend, the Orbi's are good but expensive and you pay for features you don't need, think Jag when you need a fiesta.
Maybe its time to bite the bullet and replace the googles with a fresh set of something else
I use the BT whole Home. I'm not a fan of the form factor, but they do a good job, I've recently added a fourth to my previous 3 due to poor signal in the conservatory. I've been running them probably 3.5 years and they've been rock solid. So I can recommend them. They have 3 versions at different price points and they come in multiples packs. Direct from BT seems to be the best way
Thanks for the advice so far - we have been happy with the google but not thrilled, so not fussed about staying with them.
We have network points in every room wired back to a rack - which is totally unused so happy to utilise this.
The biggest point is we have 1 holiday let at the moment and planning for another on site, this all requires wifi so we need a robust system.
Happy to pay for the right system - hopefully keep it below £500? but it has to be expandable
We have network points in every room wired back to a rack - which is totally unused so happy to utilise this.
The biggest point is we have 1 holiday let at the moment and planning for another on site, this all requires wifi so we need a robust system.
Happy to pay for the right system - hopefully keep it below £500? but it has to be expandable
You may be able to utilize your existing Google pucks for one (or both) of the holiday let's.
If you have cabled access in each room then use that as the backhaul from the second and third node to the primary puck. You'll need a switch to connect both nodes to the primary. I don't know the layout of your place, but it might be worth considering such options.
Might help keep the price down if they can be put to some use!
If you have cabled access in each room then use that as the backhaul from the second and third node to the primary puck. You'll need a switch to connect both nodes to the primary. I don't know the layout of your place, but it might be worth considering such options.
Might help keep the price down if they can be put to some use!
I have the old google wifi. When I needed to extend I bought second hand pucks and I’m up to 5. Once the configuration was correct it has been 100% stable.
Almost all issues I have seen reported with stability, or any other undesired behaviour including lack of range, have been down to double NAT.
If I was buying a new system I probably wouldn’t go with google again, or at least I’d investigate the options. But, having been in the same situation as the OP it made sense to stick with what I had.
Almost all issues I have seen reported with stability, or any other undesired behaviour including lack of range, have been down to double NAT.
If I was buying a new system I probably wouldn’t go with google again, or at least I’d investigate the options. But, having been in the same situation as the OP it made sense to stick with what I had.
Blakeatron said:
Thanks for the advice so far - we have been happy with the google but not thrilled, so not fussed about staying with them.
We have network points in every room wired back to a rack - which is totally unused so happy to utilise this.
The biggest point is we have 1 holiday let at the moment and planning for another on site, this all requires wifi so we need a robust system.
Happy to pay for the right system - hopefully keep it below £500? but it has to be expandable
There’s a number of ways of dealing with this depending on how much time, effort and money you want to spend.We have network points in every room wired back to a rack - which is totally unused so happy to utilise this.
The biggest point is we have 1 holiday let at the moment and planning for another on site, this all requires wifi so we need a robust system.
Happy to pay for the right system - hopefully keep it below £500? but it has to be expandable
A few folks have suggested unifi as an option which it is but it would be one of the more expensive ones potentially requiring you to replace the by hub with a modem and then using udm as a router/switch/access point at ~£300 plus ~£90+ for each additional access point.
It’s possible to just wire the access points to the existing hub and disable its wifi but then you lose a lot of the unifi features.
Omada by tp-link offer a similar range to the unifi options around 30% cheaper last time I looked
But both have the issue that the ap’s are generally designed for ceiling mounting which is a issue if your Ethernet sockets are wall mounts.
They do do wall mount ap’s but the coverage is generally lower that ceiling mounts meaning a greater cost on ap’s.
If it were me I’d look at either buying a bt vdsl modem from eBay, a 4-8port switch and three tp-link deco m5's to start and see where your dead spots are and put additional nodes in to fill them.
Or look at the Fritzbox vdsl modem/router/ap and additional mesh nodes.
Whatever you do if you place a access point in the airb&b dont hard wire that unless you have set up a isolated guest wired network, if not then the guest can unplug the access point and have direct access to your private network.
h0b0 said:
I have the old google wifi. When I needed to extend I bought second hand pucks and I’m up to 5.
OOI when were the new pucks introduced? I added Google mesh over 2 years ago and recently I've been thinking about buying another puck. How can I tell if mine are the old ones or new? Is there a serial number or for example are they visually different? Gassing Station | Computers, Gadgets & Stuff | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff