Local drive to backup three machines.
Local drive to backup three machines.
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Zio Di Roma

Original Poster:

1,777 posts

49 months

Saturday 15th March
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I've got 2 PCs and a mac. I'd like to backup all of the files from them.

What do I need in terms of a storage device?

Cheers.

Captain_Morgan

1,392 posts

76 months

Saturday 15th March
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How much do you need to back up?
How often will you back up?
Is the plan to automate the backup or manually copy?
Will this be a full or incremental?
Are you planing to backup to - a network drive or direct attach storage?
What price did you have in mind?

BlackTails

1,765 posts

72 months

Saturday 15th March
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A solution:

You need a NAS attached to your router. Map the NAS on each machine as an external drive, then use backup software on each machine to backup to the NAS.

Depending on whether your machines have wired or wireless connections to the router, and what else is connected to the router, you may need a switch between the router and the NAS. It depends on whether you have a spare port on the router and are happy having a NAS sitting next/close to it.

Edited by BlackTails on Sunday 16th March 13:19

GlenMH

5,356 posts

260 months

Saturday 15th March
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Or Backblaze for a cloud solution.

wombleh

2,148 posts

139 months

Saturday 15th March
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Not used them myself but synology boxes are well thought of for this sort of thing, looks like ds223 is the current one for home use.

Craikeybaby

11,558 posts

242 months

Saturday 15th March
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Another vote for Synology - it doesn't even need to be a new one, anything from the last 8 years or so will run the latest operating system.

ATG

22,325 posts

289 months

Saturday 15th March
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Without a bit more information than "all of the files" there's really no point suggesting solutions.

Zio Di Roma

Original Poster:

1,777 posts

49 months

Sunday 16th March
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ATG said:
Without a bit more information than "all of the files" there's really no point suggesting solutions.
W7 machine with old word docs, excel and Jpegs.
W10 machine with some of the above. Onedrive account that I'd like to backup locally.
Macbook with some jpegs. I cloud account with lots of photos.

ATG

22,325 posts

289 months

Sunday 16th March
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Test to see if I can post anything to this thread ... real reply keeps getting a blank screen with "would you like to translate from Danish?" prompt because Pistonheads forum software is ... special

Edited by ATG on Sunday 16th March 08:27

ATG

22,325 posts

289 months

Sunday 16th March
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Ok, well I guess my reply contains some magic character sequence that the forum software can't handle, which is a bit silly.

One shiny pound coin says it's because I've used the word "data" a few times

Edited by ATG on Sunday 16th March 08:27

Griffith4ever

5,771 posts

52 months

Sunday 16th March
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Synology is a good solution providing you can schedule the backups when you know your machines will be powdered on.

Synology NASs come with Active Backup for Business app on them. You create shares on your computers, then point Active Backup for Busines at them. I set each PC up as a "File server" in the app. Cant remember why but for me it worked better than the "PC/Mac" alternative.

Mime backs up every Thursday and I get emailed a report. If it failed I turn on the PC and then trigger the backup again as it was off when the backup ran, if it says "partial success" then I close outlook and trigger the backup again as I know it cant backup outlook.pst when outlook is open.

This makes it a partially manual process but it gets done, and the emails are pretty much reminders.

I do incremental and they take leas than a min. I backup all of my docs, outlook, photos.

I also auto run hyper backup (software Inc on the NAS again) to copy the backups to a small USB had which I take out the property when im away for over a week.

There are a miryad of ways to backup but this is one of them.

Captain_Morgan

1,392 posts

76 months

Sunday 16th March
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As already asked, can you give some more data?

Captain_Morgan said:
How much do you need to back up?
How often will you back up?
Is the plan to automate the backup or manually copy?
Will this be a full or incremental?
Are you planing to backup to - a network drive or direct attach storage?
What price did you have in mind?

eeLee

941 posts

97 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Synology + Syncthing
Syncthing on all three devices syncing data only to the Synology
Add Time Machine for the macOS machine.

Don't bother backing up the OS.

Condi

19,083 posts

188 months

Tuesday 18th March
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Another vote for Synology, get a 2 drive NAS and then you have a backup inside your backup. (2nd disc mirrors the first, they do die occasionally).

Synology have their own photos app, which you can install on your phone, and automatically backup images directly to the drive from where-ever you are.

It's not the cheapest thing to set up, by the time you've bought some drives and the NAS it's a few hundred quid, but the peace of mind and no ongoing subscription are worth it IMO. Also quite powerful if you want to run other applications directly from the NAS, which might not appeal now, but in future could be handy.

Furbo

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1,777 posts

49 months

Wednesday 30th July
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I've got an IT chap on board to help me.

We have, I think, decided that I am going to run an iCloud backup and I've ordered one of these:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CDQ61K4W?ref=ppx_yo2...

Any reason why not?

Condi

19,083 posts

188 months

Wednesday 30th July
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No reason why not, but people will say that you should have a duel disk NAS in case your one disk fails (or rather, when your one disk fails).

That said, if your documents are backed up on the cloud and elsewhere then should your NAS HD fail you can easily copy over the files.

If you get a bit nerdy your NAS can do all sorts of things, beyond just storing files. It's an always on PC.

Furbo

Original Poster:

1,777 posts

49 months

Thursday 31st July
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Condi said:
No reason why not, but people will say that you should have a duel disk NAS in case your one disk fails (or rather, when your one disk fails).

That said, if your documents are backed up on the cloud and elsewhere then should your NAS HD fail you can easily copy over the files.

If you get a bit nerdy your NAS can do all sorts of things, beyond just storing files. It's an always on PC.
This is my thinking, thanks.

Craikeybaby

11,558 posts

242 months

Thursday 31st July
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More disk slots gives more flexibility, even if you don’t use them. For example, you run out of storage, you can add another disk, either to expand what you have, or to replace it, but the copying of data happens automatically inside the machine.

They are great bits of kit though.

Furbo

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1,777 posts

49 months

Thursday 31st July
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Craikeybaby said:
More disk slots gives more flexibility, even if you don t use them. For example, you run out of storage, you can add another disk, either to expand what you have, or to replace it, but the copying of data happens automatically inside the machine.

They are great bits of kit though.
It was something like 1.5 the price for two slots. This, for an office that I am winding down.

Furbo

Original Poster:

1,777 posts

49 months

Thursday 14th August
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Bit of an update on this.

We bought a Synology NAS.

We've set it up like it is our own cloud storage. So any device can access files from anywhere.

The data from the three main machines is now all on the NAS, as well as Onedrive and iCloud.

Next week, we are going to streamline the current cloud backup and sack Onedrive completely, using only iCloud as backup.

We got in an IT bod to help, who was very good and not super expensive. But even he struggled with unpicking some things, so I am pleased I employed him. It saved time and hair loss.

The difficulty, to try to explain this as a layperson, is that Microsoft and Mac (probably Google too) want you to use them exclusively, so tie you in and make it difficult to escape. When you bite the bullet, it's like removing a cancer and finding that it has metastasized; you've got to remove bits that you weren't expecting to.

So far, it seems that there was little collateral damage. Some contacts had become inextricably linked to email addresses or maybe Outlook. I've known my wife for twenty-five years, but after migrating away from Outlook she became just a phone number on my iPhone. One of my children too.