Refurbished Desktop Windows 11 loaded or compatible .
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I posted before about my frustration with having to ditch a perfectly good desktop and laptop due to Windows 10 updates ending in a few weeks. I manage my finances and that of my mother on line and I do need good security .
I did one of the many suggested updates to get windows 11 on my desktop , however it seems that it is not guaranteed that security updates will apply . I think they have me beat .
I am going to buy a refurbished desktop that is Windows 11 ready and has a bit of longevity . I believe this is related to generation of processor amongst other things . No gaming , basic home office stuff and photo storage .
May I have some recommendations please . Budget up to £300 providing it has some longevity and is a genuine compatible machine not one that has been forced to comply . I just need the desktop no peripheries needed
Thank you
I did one of the many suggested updates to get windows 11 on my desktop , however it seems that it is not guaranteed that security updates will apply . I think they have me beat .
I am going to buy a refurbished desktop that is Windows 11 ready and has a bit of longevity . I believe this is related to generation of processor amongst other things . No gaming , basic home office stuff and photo storage .
May I have some recommendations please . Budget up to £300 providing it has some longevity and is a genuine compatible machine not one that has been forced to comply . I just need the desktop no peripheries needed
Thank you
cliffords said:
I posted before about my frustration with having to ditch a perfectly good desktop and laptop due to Windows 10 updates ending in a few weeks. I manage my finances and that of my mother on line and I do need good security .
I did one of the many suggested updates to get windows 11 on my desktop , however it seems that it is not guaranteed that security updates will apply . I think they have me beat .
I am going to buy a refurbished desktop that is Windows 11 ready and has a bit of longevity . I believe this is related to generation of processor amongst other things . No gaming , basic home office stuff and photo storage .
May I have some recommendations please . Budget up to £300 providing it has some longevity and is a genuine compatible machine not one that has been forced to comply . I just need the desktop no peripheries needed
Thank you
Main sticking point with a desktop is ensuring it has a TPM as many older consumer ones won't have or it may have been optional. Business grade desktops such as Dell/HP/Lenovo are more likely to have one as they're more likely to use encryption that the TPM is used for.I did one of the many suggested updates to get windows 11 on my desktop , however it seems that it is not guaranteed that security updates will apply . I think they have me beat .
I am going to buy a refurbished desktop that is Windows 11 ready and has a bit of longevity . I believe this is related to generation of processor amongst other things . No gaming , basic home office stuff and photo storage .
May I have some recommendations please . Budget up to £300 providing it has some longevity and is a genuine compatible machine not one that has been forced to comply . I just need the desktop no peripheries needed
Thank you
Best checking the supplier specifically mentions Windows 11 compatibility so can get a refund if it turns out it isn't. If buying from a non-business look at doing the compatibility check using the 'PC Health Check app' in the link below before handing over the cash, which is what any business should have done before saying it's compatible unless brand new and comes with a W11 compatible sticker from the manufacturer:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-11...
cliffords said:
I posted before about my frustration with having to ditch a perfectly good desktop and laptop due to Windows 10 updates ending in a few weeks. I manage my finances and that of my mother on line and I do need good security .
I did one of the many suggested updates to get windows 11 on my desktop , however it seems that it is not guaranteed that security updates will apply . I think they have me beat .
I am going to buy a refurbished desktop that is Windows 11 ready and has a bit of longevity . I believe this is related to generation of processor amongst other things . No gaming , basic home office stuff and photo storage .
May I have some recommendations please . Budget up to £300 providing it has some longevity and is a genuine compatible machine not one that has been forced to comply . I just need the desktop no peripheries needed
Thank you
https://www.dellrefurbished.co.uk/item/dell-optiplex-7080-sff-633fd78c/dell-optiplex-7080-sff/1.htmlI did one of the many suggested updates to get windows 11 on my desktop , however it seems that it is not guaranteed that security updates will apply . I think they have me beat .
I am going to buy a refurbished desktop that is Windows 11 ready and has a bit of longevity . I believe this is related to generation of processor amongst other things . No gaming , basic home office stuff and photo storage .
May I have some recommendations please . Budget up to £300 providing it has some longevity and is a genuine compatible machine not one that has been forced to comply . I just need the desktop no peripheries needed
Thank you
Are you sure you can’t kick the can down the road for a year, if you want to?
There is an easy way to extend it, worked on mine..
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I did yesterday, my windows 10 is now supported until Oct 2026
There is an easy way to extend it, worked on mine..
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I did yesterday, my windows 10 is now supported until Oct 2026
Installing Windows 11 on older hardware is easy. I've done loads of 'not supported' PCs using the Rufus installer. There's plenty of youtube videos out there on how to use it. The oldest I have Windows 11 on is a 2007 Sony Vaio laptop with a 2 core CPU. Boots and runs fine, can browse the internet happily.
Only minor annoyance is that while windows updates install ok, the major Windows 11 features updates appear not to, so I have to do a fresh rufus install every 2-3 years. Minor annoyance to keep old hardware useful.
In terms of buying a second hard PC that can run Windows 11, it's everything from Intel CPU 8th generation onwards. The intel CPUs for some years have started with a number that denoted the generation. So an 8 or higher will be ok. The very recent ones have different numbering and are have "ultra" in their name and are all ok.
If you do want to buy something new for cheap I'd suggest whatever you can afford from somewhere like minisforum. I have a couple of cheap small PCs from them, used for browsing and watching TV/films, etc. If you don't need a GPU these are as good as anything. And new, so they will be supported for some time to come.
Only minor annoyance is that while windows updates install ok, the major Windows 11 features updates appear not to, so I have to do a fresh rufus install every 2-3 years. Minor annoyance to keep old hardware useful.
In terms of buying a second hard PC that can run Windows 11, it's everything from Intel CPU 8th generation onwards. The intel CPUs for some years have started with a number that denoted the generation. So an 8 or higher will be ok. The very recent ones have different numbering and are have "ultra" in their name and are all ok.
If you do want to buy something new for cheap I'd suggest whatever you can afford from somewhere like minisforum. I have a couple of cheap small PCs from them, used for browsing and watching TV/films, etc. If you don't need a GPU these are as good as anything. And new, so they will be supported for some time to come.
Would this do ? I just don't have the expertise here to choose .
https://www.stonerefurb.co.uk/dell-optiplex-3060-i...
Edited to add. I managed to extend the widows cover on my laptop through the windows program. So it's the desktop I am after that I use for most financial stuff. That's too old for the extended program
https://www.stonerefurb.co.uk/dell-optiplex-3060-i...
Edited to add. I managed to extend the widows cover on my laptop through the windows program. So it's the desktop I am after that I use for most financial stuff. That's too old for the extended program
Edited by cliffords on Friday 19th September 17:45
Edited by cliffords on Friday 19th September 17:58
The list is here and that CPU is on it https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware...
It is a CPU from 2017 though! A mini PC with an N100 CPU would be a good alternative.
It is a CPU from 2017 though! A mini PC with an N100 CPU would be a good alternative.
cliffords said:
Would this do? I just don't have the expertise here to choose .
https://www.stonerefurb.co.uk/dell-optiplex-3060-i...
Edited to add. I managed to extend the widows cover on my laptop through the windows program. So it's the desktop I am after that I use for most financial stuff. That's too old for the extended program
The Dell Optiplexes are excellent little PCs & that one is not bad but I'd suggest raising the RAM to 16GB & the SSD to 512Gb which pushes the price to £252. You can do a bit better if you give up the apparant comfort of a 1 year guarantee & venture onto ebay. Look for a Dell Optiplex 7060, 7070, 7080 or 7090 with the 7060 being the lowest that will run Win11. Here's an example of a 7060 with an i5processor, 16GB or RAM & 512GB SSD for £205 (only 1 month guarantee though):https://www.stonerefurb.co.uk/dell-optiplex-3060-i...
Edited to add. I managed to extend the widows cover on my laptop through the windows program. So it's the desktop I am after that I use for most financial stuff. That's too old for the extended program
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186756377425
Other 7060s:
£229 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/357608398333
£214 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/276925874995
£229 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256406947373
7070
£215 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226646426546
£250 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/276889556480
7080 are over £300 with upgraded memory
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365237750271
I'd look at the 7070 range but even the 7060 will do what you need - I'm typing this on one & currently I've got Outlook, Teams, Autocad, four browser windows, Powerpoint & Excel open. Personally I aim to spend under £250 & regard a PC as a disposable item.
As said earlier you can buy a new system with significantly greater performance for £300.
This shows the cpu performance
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4788vs3223vs6...
These are the release dates of the cpu
AMD Ryzen 7 5825U
Release Date: January 2022
This CPU is part of the AMD Ryzen 5000 U-series (Zen 3 architecture), aimed at ultrabooks and thin laptops.
Intel Core i5-8500
Release Date: January 2018
This was part of Intel's 8th generation (Coffee Lake) series.
Intel Core i5-9500E
Release Date: Q2 2019
The "E" version signifies a low-power variant in the Intel lineup, aimed at embedded and compact systems. It belongs to the 9th generation (Coffee Lake).
Intel Core i5-10500
Release Date: January 2020
This is a 10th-generation Comet Lake processor, designed for desktop systems.
This shows the cpu performance
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4788vs3223vs6...
These are the release dates of the cpu
AMD Ryzen 7 5825U
Release Date: January 2022
This CPU is part of the AMD Ryzen 5000 U-series (Zen 3 architecture), aimed at ultrabooks and thin laptops.
Intel Core i5-8500
Release Date: January 2018
This was part of Intel's 8th generation (Coffee Lake) series.
Intel Core i5-9500E
Release Date: Q2 2019
The "E" version signifies a low-power variant in the Intel lineup, aimed at embedded and compact systems. It belongs to the 9th generation (Coffee Lake).
Intel Core i5-10500
Release Date: January 2020
This is a 10th-generation Comet Lake processor, designed for desktop systems.
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