C63s 2016 / 2017
Discussion
Just sold my 2018 C63 estate. I had the car from new so can comment on the options I found useful:
1. Pretty much all cars have the premium pack - I rarely opened the sunroof however the extra light it lets in is helpful.
2. 360 camera very helpful. Car is actually pretty big (despite what road tests say).
3. Performance exhaust - why wouldn’t you?
4. I had the AMG performance seats. The standard ones are comfortable but I couldn’t resist on the basis they make the interior a special place to be.
5. Interior trim - not important in the grander scheme of things.
6. Lane change sensor stuff - I didn’t have it and doubt I would have used it anyway.
7. HUD - in hindsight I would have preferred this to the carbon interior pack that I selected (the irony of fake carbon on a heavy car).
Good bits: an amazing engine, very fast, quiet, practical, comfortable and then noisy and ballistic when you want it to be. A lot of car for the money. Less good bits: not that involving unless on the right road and the paddles come into play. Gearbox a bit annoying during low speed manoeuvres in town. Suspension on crappy city centre roads isn’t great but the says more about roads not being maintained rather than being the cars fault. The only reason for going for a used S over a standard car is if the spec. is better etc. Standard car has more power than can be used most of the time and I expect in the real world the extra few bhp of the S can’t be felt.
I sold my car to WBAC this week so could be worth looking out for it as its rare to find one with the performance seats. Car coming up to 3 years old and only 15k miles.
Hope this helps.
1. Pretty much all cars have the premium pack - I rarely opened the sunroof however the extra light it lets in is helpful.
2. 360 camera very helpful. Car is actually pretty big (despite what road tests say).
3. Performance exhaust - why wouldn’t you?
4. I had the AMG performance seats. The standard ones are comfortable but I couldn’t resist on the basis they make the interior a special place to be.
5. Interior trim - not important in the grander scheme of things.
6. Lane change sensor stuff - I didn’t have it and doubt I would have used it anyway.
7. HUD - in hindsight I would have preferred this to the carbon interior pack that I selected (the irony of fake carbon on a heavy car).
Good bits: an amazing engine, very fast, quiet, practical, comfortable and then noisy and ballistic when you want it to be. A lot of car for the money. Less good bits: not that involving unless on the right road and the paddles come into play. Gearbox a bit annoying during low speed manoeuvres in town. Suspension on crappy city centre roads isn’t great but the says more about roads not being maintained rather than being the cars fault. The only reason for going for a used S over a standard car is if the spec. is better etc. Standard car has more power than can be used most of the time and I expect in the real world the extra few bhp of the S can’t be felt.
I sold my car to WBAC this week so could be worth looking out for it as its rare to find one with the performance seats. Car coming up to 3 years old and only 15k miles.
Hope this helps.
jh106 said:
Just sold my 2018 C63 estate. I had the car from new so can comment on the options I found useful:
1. Pretty much all cars have the premium pack - I rarely opened the sunroof however the extra light it lets in is helpful.
2. 360 camera very helpful. Car is actually pretty big (despite what road tests say).
3. Performance exhaust - why wouldn’t you?
4. I had the AMG performance seats. The standard ones are comfortable but I couldn’t resist on the basis they make the interior a special place to be.
5. Interior trim - not important in the grander scheme of things.
6. Lane change sensor stuff - I didn’t have it and doubt I would have used it anyway.
7. HUD - in hindsight I would have preferred this to the carbon interior pack that I selected (the irony of fake carbon on a heavy car).
Good bits: an amazing engine, very fast, quiet, practical, comfortable and then noisy and ballistic when you want it to be. A lot of car for the money. Less good bits: not that involving unless on the right road and the paddles come into play. Gearbox a bit annoying during low speed manoeuvres in town. Suspension on crappy city centre roads isn’t great but the says more about roads not being maintained rather than being the cars fault. The only reason for going for a used S over a standard car is if the spec. is better etc. Standard car has more power than can be used most of the time and I expect in the real world the extra few bhp of the S can’t be felt.
I sold my car to WBAC this week so could be worth looking out for it as its rare to find one with the performance seats. Car coming up to 3 years old and only 15k miles.
Hope this helps.
What are you replacing with, out of interest?1. Pretty much all cars have the premium pack - I rarely opened the sunroof however the extra light it lets in is helpful.
2. 360 camera very helpful. Car is actually pretty big (despite what road tests say).
3. Performance exhaust - why wouldn’t you?
4. I had the AMG performance seats. The standard ones are comfortable but I couldn’t resist on the basis they make the interior a special place to be.
5. Interior trim - not important in the grander scheme of things.
6. Lane change sensor stuff - I didn’t have it and doubt I would have used it anyway.
7. HUD - in hindsight I would have preferred this to the carbon interior pack that I selected (the irony of fake carbon on a heavy car).
Good bits: an amazing engine, very fast, quiet, practical, comfortable and then noisy and ballistic when you want it to be. A lot of car for the money. Less good bits: not that involving unless on the right road and the paddles come into play. Gearbox a bit annoying during low speed manoeuvres in town. Suspension on crappy city centre roads isn’t great but the says more about roads not being maintained rather than being the cars fault. The only reason for going for a used S over a standard car is if the spec. is better etc. Standard car has more power than can be used most of the time and I expect in the real world the extra few bhp of the S can’t be felt.
I sold my car to WBAC this week so could be worth looking out for it as its rare to find one with the performance seats. Car coming up to 3 years old and only 15k miles.
Hope this helps.
Did WBAC give a good price? Did you try Mercedes?
cool thanks guys.
also what in the way of common faults? I had a guy panic me a few days ago by saying these cars are a "nightmare" and a mate of his is getting "7mpg". Now i believe partly he was talking typical b
ks but then also referring to some knackered boy racered 6.2 NA previous shape one... any insight?
also what in the way of common faults? I had a guy panic me a few days ago by saying these cars are a "nightmare" and a mate of his is getting "7mpg". Now i believe partly he was talking typical b
ks but then also referring to some knackered boy racered 6.2 NA previous shape one... any insight? Don1 said:
I have a W204 C63 (so the earlier one than you are looking at), even pushing on and driving like a dick it's difficult to get those mpg figures. Normally high teens / early twenties.
A W205 C63S offers much better economy, at least 15/20% better in my experience. I drove 800 miles back from the Alps at a steady 85mph and achieved an indicated 28mpgyou hear indeed, for sound and? a 6.2 is great and pure I guess.
and seen some drag strip battle between a few, were the old 6.2 came out in fron of the 4.0, forgot about if it was a s or not, but was a bit of a surprise.
but I guess the newer model Biturbo is a bit easier all round and has the nice interior console flow to dash, especial if you choose for a edition 1 type (real one so also with edition 1 carved in the steering wheel and red carbon) those are pretty full loaded and have great sport seats, same as in some AMG GT cars.
and seen some drag strip battle between a few, were the old 6.2 came out in fron of the 4.0, forgot about if it was a s or not, but was a bit of a surprise.
but I guess the newer model Biturbo is a bit easier all round and has the nice interior console flow to dash, especial if you choose for a edition 1 type (real one so also with edition 1 carved in the steering wheel and red carbon) those are pretty full loaded and have great sport seats, same as in some AMG GT cars.
GTRene said:
you hear indeed, for sound and? a 6.2 is great and pure I guess.
and seen some drag strip battle between a few, were the old 6.2 came out in fron of the 4.0, forgot about if it was a s or not, but was a bit of a surprise.
but I guess the newer model Biturbo is a bit easier all round and has the nice interior console flow to dash, especial if you choose for a edition 1 type (real one so also with edition 1 carved in the steering wheel and red carbon) those are pretty full loaded and have great sport seats, same as in some AMG GT cars.
i don't really want to get into a discussion about it particularly as I don't want the 6.2. However FWIW based upon factory standard build, the 6.2 is 451bhp and 0-62mph in 4.4s and the 4.0 biturbo S is 510bhp and 0-62mph in 3.9s.and seen some drag strip battle between a few, were the old 6.2 came out in fron of the 4.0, forgot about if it was a s or not, but was a bit of a surprise.
but I guess the newer model Biturbo is a bit easier all round and has the nice interior console flow to dash, especial if you choose for a edition 1 type (real one so also with edition 1 carved in the steering wheel and red carbon) those are pretty full loaded and have great sport seats, same as in some AMG GT cars.
Blown2CV said:
i don't really want to get into a discussion about it particularly as I don't want the 6.2. However FWIW based upon factory standard build, the 6.2 is 451bhp and 0-62mph in 4.4s and the 4.0 biturbo S is 510bhp and 0-62mph in 3.9s.
Ah, it had some problem with getting the power down and gearbox? once rolling it was fastalso seen another video with 2 sedans c63, I think both same power, 1 the biturbo and one natural 6.2 there almost same 1/4 mile I believe, but the power and feeling was different with both.
anyhow here that one power drag race, always nice to see.
https://youtu.be/TUs48KitW6M
GTRene said:
Blown2CV said:
i don't really want to get into a discussion about it particularly as I don't want the 6.2. However FWIW based upon factory standard build, the 6.2 is 451bhp and 0-62mph in 4.4s and the 4.0 biturbo S is 510bhp and 0-62mph in 3.9s.
Ah, it had some problem with getting the power down and gearbox? once rolling it was fastalso seen another video with 2 sedans c63, I think both same power, 1 the biturbo and one natural 6.2 there almost same 1/4 mile I believe, but the power and feeling was different with both.
anyhow here that one power drag race, always nice to see.
https://youtu.be/TUs48KitW6M
if i had to choose between fast and hugely thirsty versus fast and almost manageable in terms of running costs then i'd choose the latter! There's more to it than that of course and I do accept that the biturbo is less of the 'real deal' than the full fat massive V8, but it's a compromise I am ok with making really. They're both a million times better than an EV to my mind. Avoid the Piano Black Centre console as it scratches easily, you don't get the clock, and it squeaks like an MF.
Open pore is the way to go - it was an option for these model years.
Sports exhaust was also a 1k option - not included on the estate nor in Premium Pack. Check it has "the button".
Rear seat room is poor, but better than a w204.
Check for oil leaks around the turbos and high pitched whine at high revs.
Front alignment may need adjusting - excessive wear on the outer due be a sign - they are prone to this.
Open pore is the way to go - it was an option for these model years.
Sports exhaust was also a 1k option - not included on the estate nor in Premium Pack. Check it has "the button".
Rear seat room is poor, but better than a w204.
Check for oil leaks around the turbos and high pitched whine at high revs.
Front alignment may need adjusting - excessive wear on the outer due be a sign - they are prone to this.
ExcitableBoy said:
Avoid the Piano Black Centre console as it scratches easily, you don't get the clock, and it squeaks like an MF.
Open pore is the way to go - it was an option for these model years.
Sports exhaust was also a 1k option - not included on the estate nor in Premium Pack. Check it has "the button".
Rear seat room is poor, but better than a w204.
Check for oil leaks around the turbos and high pitched whine at high revs.
Front alignment may need adjusting - excessive wear on the outer due be a sign - they are prone to this.
brilliant thanksOpen pore is the way to go - it was an option for these model years.
Sports exhaust was also a 1k option - not included on the estate nor in Premium Pack. Check it has "the button".
Rear seat room is poor, but better than a w204.
Check for oil leaks around the turbos and high pitched whine at high revs.
Front alignment may need adjusting - excessive wear on the outer due be a sign - they are prone to this.
I would be certain you need what an 's' of this era brings, before ruling out a standard.
The engine mounts are noticeable on a track, but in reality nowhere else. The standard ls diff is fine, though eLSD can obviously be a bit more nuanced.
I find the performance seats too firm for long journeys and restrictive for rear passengers - the standard seats are OK, but still lack arse padding.
The 's' has bigger wheels and brakes and is a bit rougher, the standard is just about OK for everyday.
Also, there's no android auto or car play in either of them, but I don't think that's a deal breaker for many people.
ETA: running gear is very well built. Engine (apart from turbo seals which I think is very limited) is pretty bulletproof and used everywhere now.
MPG is circa 22mpg mixed mileage, no one is getting 7mpg regularly.
Tyres will last you 20k all around (save front wear due weight and alignment)
Interior can be a bit suspect - got better through the lifecycle.
The engine mounts are noticeable on a track, but in reality nowhere else. The standard ls diff is fine, though eLSD can obviously be a bit more nuanced.
I find the performance seats too firm for long journeys and restrictive for rear passengers - the standard seats are OK, but still lack arse padding.
The 's' has bigger wheels and brakes and is a bit rougher, the standard is just about OK for everyday.
Also, there's no android auto or car play in either of them, but I don't think that's a deal breaker for many people.
ETA: running gear is very well built. Engine (apart from turbo seals which I think is very limited) is pretty bulletproof and used everywhere now.
MPG is circa 22mpg mixed mileage, no one is getting 7mpg regularly.
Tyres will last you 20k all around (save front wear due weight and alignment)
Interior can be a bit suspect - got better through the lifecycle.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 30th March 22:41
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