Thinking of buying Evo integrale or mitsubishi evo 6
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I can’t comment on the Mitsubishi but all I will say is last year I was invited to take my Evo 2 Giallo to Supercar Sunday at Silverstone and the night before the event, had a phone call offering me a free pass for the track parade at lunchtime. Driving around the F1 circuit in amongst Pista’s, Performante’s, GT3 RS’s (who had all paid for the privilege) I didn’t see any Mitsubishis.... 

daviekiwi said:
Evening all, Thinking of buying Integrale evo 1 or mitsubishi evo 6 two rally legends!
Is the lancia worth 20k more? mitsubishi is probably better value and will increase in value more , but the lancia looks awesome.
Whats your thoughts?
My thoughts are that the Mitsubishi is not in the same league as the Integrale, not even close. I really don't think it's an either / or decision. If an Evo 6 is what you want, then buy it. But don't buy it because you really wanted an Integrale but the Evo 6 was £20K cheaper - that's a sure road to dissatisfaction.Is the lancia worth 20k more? mitsubishi is probably better value and will increase in value more , but the lancia looks awesome.
Whats your thoughts?
The Integrale will continue to be worth strong money until the end of time. The Mitsubishi will depreciate to zero within the next 10 years (maybe I'm wrong here, but I think the sentiment is still valid).
I think (hilariously) that the Mitsubishi would represent the safe, sensible option if it's standard specification and that the Integrale would be riskier but more satisfying. All other considerations aside I absolutely adore the Integrale, it's been one of favourite cars for decades (due to being a long term rally slag) but I think you'd need deep pockets to keep one. I would happily have an Evo too, preferably a IV, V or VI so its a nice problem to have.
Stellartois pretty much nails it. I also have a giallo Evo 2. People stop me in the street, at junctions, at traffic lights, petrol stations. Everyone is positive (especially White Van Man), never a snide remark, much more enjoyable ownership experience than more expensive exotica I've driven.
Sadly I've not driven an Evo 6 so can't compare. Don't expect the same performance as today's super hatches (the standard engine needs a little breathing on to wake it up), but the steering feel is on another planet to anything modern, and the mechanical grip and traction is still impressive today.
Running costs are a couple of grand a year to keep it A1. Mine gets regular use which I think is important to stay on top of little niggling issues which could turn into bigger issues. I'm always suspicious of low mileage garage queens, whatever the make.
Sadly I've not driven an Evo 6 so can't compare. Don't expect the same performance as today's super hatches (the standard engine needs a little breathing on to wake it up), but the steering feel is on another planet to anything modern, and the mechanical grip and traction is still impressive today.
Running costs are a couple of grand a year to keep it A1. Mine gets regular use which I think is important to stay on top of little niggling issues which could turn into bigger issues. I'm always suspicious of low mileage garage queens, whatever the make.
Owned plenty of Deltas and driven a couple of Evo 6s.
The Mitsubishi will annihilate a Delta in all conditions but it only wants to headbang and anything below that wasn't much fun. It is extremely impressive though. A Delta feels special regardless of speed.
Running an Evo 6 would be rather more painless in terms of parts and it'll no doubt be easier to find a solid one. As for values I think the Evo 6 will be regarded as the definitive one in the future but the Integrale will continue to grow in rep.
Though they're great cars there's no way I could stomach handing over what people are asking for the best Integrales now. They're not THAT great.
The Mitsubishi will annihilate a Delta in all conditions but it only wants to headbang and anything below that wasn't much fun. It is extremely impressive though. A Delta feels special regardless of speed.
Running an Evo 6 would be rather more painless in terms of parts and it'll no doubt be easier to find a solid one. As for values I think the Evo 6 will be regarded as the definitive one in the future but the Integrale will continue to grow in rep.
Though they're great cars there's no way I could stomach handing over what people are asking for the best Integrales now. They're not THAT great.
My 5penny-worth on the Evo Integrale would be this: as someone who has owned a couple of LHD only cars in the UK (Integrale 16v and Alfa SZ) make sure you are comfortable with the usability on British roads. I have driven thousands of UK miles in LHD cars (II've worked for OEMs and run-in/tested prototype cars) do I'm perfectly competent in them but with a performance car I have personally always found LHD to be a complete PITA when driving for fun, expecially with cars like the SZ that have an unusual driving position and awkward visibility. I know there will plenty of driving-heroes leaping to the defence of LHD or implying I am somehow talent deficient but if you've not done some significant journeys and fast driving (like a N.Wales trip with plenty of overtaking) don't underestimate how painful it can be in the Integrale. You may love the uniqueness of the experience but don't take it for granted that a LHD is an easy/enjoyable experience for you. I'd never have another for the driving I do on the roads I drive for fun.
Olas said:
Stretch the budget and buy an S4, and the Lon the Evo won’t see which way you went.
A Delta S4? The last price I saw for a Stradale was a million Euros at auction and it would still be wiped out by a standard Evo 6. You could've had one for 30-40 grand in the late 90s so at least they made someone plenty of money.
I didn’t say Stradale, you inferred it.
If an S4 isn’t fast enough for you, how about an LC2?
https://www.girardo.com/car/1983-lancia-lc2-group-...
If an S4 isn’t fast enough for you, how about an LC2?
https://www.girardo.com/car/1983-lancia-lc2-group-...
I purchased an Integrale Evo 2 and a Evo 6 Tommi Makinen in 2014 and still have them both today.
The Integrale is a more special occasion to drive and certainly gets more attention on the road but the TME is simply the more dynamic car.
The build quality of the Lancia also leaves a lot to be desired if that matters to you.
Both cars are very special in slighty different ways and are going nowhere for the foreseeable future.
The Integrale is a more special occasion to drive and certainly gets more attention on the road but the TME is simply the more dynamic car.
The build quality of the Lancia also leaves a lot to be desired if that matters to you.
Both cars are very special in slighty different ways and are going nowhere for the foreseeable future.
bloomen said:
Owned plenty of Deltas and driven a couple of Evo 6s.
The Mitsubishi will annihilate a Delta in all conditions but it only wants to headbang and anything below that wasn't much fun. It is extremely impressive though. A Delta feels special regardless of speed.
Running an Evo 6 would be rather more painless in terms of parts and it'll no doubt be easier to find a solid one. As for values I think the Evo 6 will be regarded as the definitive one in the future but the Integrale will continue to grow in rep.
Though they're great cars there's no way I could stomach handing over what people are asking for the best Integrales now. They're not THAT great.
I would agree bloomen, Evo 6 it is then!The Mitsubishi will annihilate a Delta in all conditions but it only wants to headbang and anything below that wasn't much fun. It is extremely impressive though. A Delta feels special regardless of speed.
Running an Evo 6 would be rather more painless in terms of parts and it'll no doubt be easier to find a solid one. As for values I think the Evo 6 will be regarded as the definitive one in the future but the Integrale will continue to grow in rep.
Though they're great cars there's no way I could stomach handing over what people are asking for the best Integrales now. They're not THAT great.
I have had an Integrale Evo2 for 8 years and still use it quite a lot (even fit winters each year!)
No doubt I was lucky to get a good one, but never had an issue in all that time, not one. Have it serviced every 18 months or so, and don’t plan on needing new bodywork...
Would like an Evo6, and look at them often, but don’t think they are in same league.
You can take an Integrale anywhere and it fits in with the best of them. It’s an expensive alternative to an Evo6, but a very cheap ‘supercar’. Steering makes it interesting at all speeds, and it’s an all time classic body shape.
An Evo 6 is a cool car, but much more one dimensional. All imo...
No doubt I was lucky to get a good one, but never had an issue in all that time, not one. Have it serviced every 18 months or so, and don’t plan on needing new bodywork...
Would like an Evo6, and look at them often, but don’t think they are in same league.
You can take an Integrale anywhere and it fits in with the best of them. It’s an expensive alternative to an Evo6, but a very cheap ‘supercar’. Steering makes it interesting at all speeds, and it’s an all time classic body shape.
An Evo 6 is a cool car, but much more one dimensional. All imo...
Very true. I often browse the classifieds for supercars. For some odd reason, my fantasies are usually grounded in reality.
When I look at, sit in and drive the 'grale, I realise it has *almost* every attribute that makes it "super" (I'm deliberately avoiding defining that word). I can't think what more pure enjoyment I might get out of a Ferrari or Aston. (I've owned and driven a few).
When I look at, sit in and drive the 'grale, I realise it has *almost* every attribute that makes it "super" (I'm deliberately avoiding defining that word). I can't think what more pure enjoyment I might get out of a Ferrari or Aston. (I've owned and driven a few).
Can't comment on the Evo 6 but here's an article I contributed to recently with my thought on my Delta. Echoes what some have already said.
https://www.thegearheadproject.com/2020/andys-inte...
https://www.thegearheadproject.com/2020/andys-inte...
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