Thinking of buying Evo integrale or mitsubishi evo 6
Thinking of buying Evo integrale or mitsubishi evo 6
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daviekiwi

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180 posts

221 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Evening all, Thinking of buying Integrale evo 1 or mitsubishi evo 6 two rally legends!
Is the lancia worth 20k more? mitsubishi is probably better value and will increase in value more , but the lancia looks awesome.
Whats your thoughts?

Stellartois

189 posts

135 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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I can’t comment on the Mitsubishi but all I will say is last year I was invited to take my Evo 2 Giallo to Supercar Sunday at Silverstone and the night before the event, had a phone call offering me a free pass for the track parade at lunchtime. Driving around the F1 circuit in amongst Pista’s, Performante’s, GT3 RS’s (who had all paid for the privilege) I didn’t see any Mitsubishis....

Stellartois

189 posts

135 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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And when we went back at the end of August for the WEC round, my car was the one they had on the big screen for the upcoming.Ultimate Performance Car event. That was pretty cool to be honest..

omniflow

3,303 posts

167 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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daviekiwi said:
Evening all, Thinking of buying Integrale evo 1 or mitsubishi evo 6 two rally legends!
Is the lancia worth 20k more? mitsubishi is probably better value and will increase in value more , but the lancia looks awesome.
Whats your thoughts?
My thoughts are that the Mitsubishi is not in the same league as the Integrale, not even close. I really don't think it's an either / or decision. If an Evo 6 is what you want, then buy it. But don't buy it because you really wanted an Integrale but the Evo 6 was £20K cheaper - that's a sure road to dissatisfaction.

The Integrale will continue to be worth strong money until the end of time. The Mitsubishi will depreciate to zero within the next 10 years (maybe I'm wrong here, but I think the sentiment is still valid).

Skyedriver

20,730 posts

298 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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I have similar thoughts about an Impreza.
20, or even 10 years ago I could just about afford an Integrale, can't now.
I can afford an Impreza at the moment, some are increasing in price.....

Both are rally legends that turn my head even now.

warch

2,941 posts

170 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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I think (hilariously) that the Mitsubishi would represent the safe, sensible option if it's standard specification and that the Integrale would be riskier but more satisfying. All other considerations aside I absolutely adore the Integrale, it's been one of favourite cars for decades (due to being a long term rally slag) but I think you'd need deep pockets to keep one. I would happily have an Evo too, preferably a IV, V or VI so its a nice problem to have.

Caddyshack

12,635 posts

222 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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If buying a mitsu evo google Mark Shead and speak to him.

Harris_I

3,263 posts

275 months

Tuesday 25th February 2020
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Stellartois pretty much nails it. I also have a giallo Evo 2. People stop me in the street, at junctions, at traffic lights, petrol stations. Everyone is positive (especially White Van Man), never a snide remark, much more enjoyable ownership experience than more expensive exotica I've driven.

Sadly I've not driven an Evo 6 so can't compare. Don't expect the same performance as today's super hatches (the standard engine needs a little breathing on to wake it up), but the steering feel is on another planet to anything modern, and the mechanical grip and traction is still impressive today.

Running costs are a couple of grand a year to keep it A1. Mine gets regular use which I think is important to stay on top of little niggling issues which could turn into bigger issues. I'm always suspicious of low mileage garage queens, whatever the make.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

259 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Only you can answer that question.
Are you anywhere near a suitable specialist to fix it?
Most integrales don't come out much these days due to the value of them and lack of replacement parts, mainly bodywork.

bloomen

8,569 posts

175 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Owned plenty of Deltas and driven a couple of Evo 6s.

The Mitsubishi will annihilate a Delta in all conditions but it only wants to headbang and anything below that wasn't much fun. It is extremely impressive though. A Delta feels special regardless of speed.

Running an Evo 6 would be rather more painless in terms of parts and it'll no doubt be easier to find a solid one. As for values I think the Evo 6 will be regarded as the definitive one in the future but the Integrale will continue to grow in rep.

Though they're great cars there's no way I could stomach handing over what people are asking for the best Integrales now. They're not THAT great.

Macboy

780 posts

221 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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My 5penny-worth on the Evo Integrale would be this: as someone who has owned a couple of LHD only cars in the UK (Integrale 16v and Alfa SZ) make sure you are comfortable with the usability on British roads. I have driven thousands of UK miles in LHD cars (II've worked for OEMs and run-in/tested prototype cars) do I'm perfectly competent in them but with a performance car I have personally always found LHD to be a complete PITA when driving for fun, expecially with cars like the SZ that have an unusual driving position and awkward visibility. I know there will plenty of driving-heroes leaping to the defence of LHD or implying I am somehow talent deficient but if you've not done some significant journeys and fast driving (like a N.Wales trip with plenty of overtaking) don't underestimate how painful it can be in the Integrale. You may love the uniqueness of the experience but don't take it for granted that a LHD is an easy/enjoyable experience for you. I'd never have another for the driving I do on the roads I drive for fun.

Olas

911 posts

73 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Integrates are wonderful evocative machines, best served in Martini colours.

Unfortunately a ‘Grale wouldn’t see which way an Evo went.
Stretch the budget and buy an S4, and the Evo won’t see which way you went.

Edited by Olas on Wednesday 26th February 13:55

bloomen

8,569 posts

175 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Olas said:
Stretch the budget and buy an S4, and the Lon the Evo won’t see which way you went.
A Delta S4? The last price I saw for a Stradale was a million Euros at auction and it would still be wiped out by a standard Evo 6.

You could've had one for 30-40 grand in the late 90s so at least they made someone plenty of money.

Olas

911 posts

73 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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I didn’t say Stradale, you inferred it.

If an S4 isn’t fast enough for you, how about an LC2?

https://www.girardo.com/car/1983-lancia-lc2-group-...

Beno66

110 posts

211 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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I purchased an Integrale Evo 2 and a Evo 6 Tommi Makinen in 2014 and still have them both today.

The Integrale is a more special occasion to drive and certainly gets more attention on the road but the TME is simply the more dynamic car.

The build quality of the Lancia also leaves a lot to be desired if that matters to you.

Both cars are very special in slighty different ways and are going nowhere for the foreseeable future.

daviekiwi

Original Poster:

180 posts

221 months

Wednesday 4th March 2020
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bloomen said:
Owned plenty of Deltas and driven a couple of Evo 6s.

The Mitsubishi will annihilate a Delta in all conditions but it only wants to headbang and anything below that wasn't much fun. It is extremely impressive though. A Delta feels special regardless of speed.

Running an Evo 6 would be rather more painless in terms of parts and it'll no doubt be easier to find a solid one. As for values I think the Evo 6 will be regarded as the definitive one in the future but the Integrale will continue to grow in rep.

Though they're great cars there's no way I could stomach handing over what people are asking for the best Integrales now. They're not THAT great.
I would agree bloomen, Evo 6 it is then!

footsoldier

2,289 posts

208 months

Thursday 5th March 2020
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I have had an Integrale Evo2 for 8 years and still use it quite a lot (even fit winters each year!)
No doubt I was lucky to get a good one, but never had an issue in all that time, not one. Have it serviced every 18 months or so, and don’t plan on needing new bodywork...

Would like an Evo6, and look at them often, but don’t think they are in same league.
You can take an Integrale anywhere and it fits in with the best of them. It’s an expensive alternative to an Evo6, but a very cheap ‘supercar’. Steering makes it interesting at all speeds, and it’s an all time classic body shape.

An Evo 6 is a cool car, but much more one dimensional. All imo...

jaisharma

1,292 posts

199 months

Friday 6th March 2020
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The Mitsubishi is no doubt faster cheaper and easier to run.
But those are rational criteria and this isn’t a rational choice. I think the poster above has some good points.

Harris_I

3,263 posts

275 months

Friday 6th March 2020
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Very true. I often browse the classifieds for supercars. For some odd reason, my fantasies are usually grounded in reality.

When I look at, sit in and drive the 'grale, I realise it has *almost* every attribute that makes it "super" (I'm deliberately avoiding defining that word). I can't think what more pure enjoyment I might get out of a Ferrari or Aston. (I've owned and driven a few).

andy-integrale

455 posts

207 months

Tuesday 7th April 2020
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Can't comment on the Evo 6 but here's an article I contributed to recently with my thought on my Delta. Echoes what some have already said.

https://www.thegearheadproject.com/2020/andys-inte...