Rear wheel drive Alfa V6

[ferg]

I'm sure that recently I saw a picture of a car with the Alfa V6 driving the rear wheels. What car would this have been?

[Mon Ami Mate]

75 or an Alfetta would have been the last.

[wildoliver]

SZ?

[richb]

164 quadrifoglio verde?

[Dutchie]

164 was an all wheel drive car.
Not sure whether the Alfetta was originally equiped with a V6 engine, but I think not.
Which leaves a couple of possibilities:
SZ (my favourite Alfa Romeo ever):

GTV6:

90:

Sei:

75 (my ex, still miss her sometimes, when I forget about the monthly four-digit garage bills):

[ferg]

So there are a few not-exactly-sought-after cars with that fabulous V6 that could donate engine and 'box to a 'Seven replica'......

[xyyman]

Not forgetting the RZ (drop top SZ).

Phil

[thegreenhell]

ferg said:

So there are a few not-exactly-sought-after cars with that fabulous V6 that could donate engine and 'box to a 'Seven replica'......

The gearbox is at the back in all of the V6 cars, in unit with the diff and clutch, and I doubt very much that it would fit in any sort of 7even-type car. You would need to get an adapter made up to mate the engine onto a more conventional gearbox, probably a Sierra or Tremec T5.

HTH.

[xyyman]

The exception being the Alfa 6, the first Alfa to use the 2.5 V6 and the only one to use it with a conventional gearbox (5 speed or auto).

Phil

[Mon Ami Mate]

Dutchie said:

164 was an all wheel drive car. Not sure whether the Alfetta was originally equiped with a V6 engine, but I think not. Which leaves a couple of possibilities: GTV6:

This IS an Alfetta!

[richb]

Mon Ami Mate said:

Dutchie said: 164 was an all wheel drive car. Not sure whether the Alfetta was originally equiped with a V6 engine, but I think not. Which leaves a couple of possibilities: GTV6: This IS an Alfetta!

Think you'll find it's actually a GTV6, in fact you are able to see the bulge in the bonnet which confirms it IS V6. I've never known these as Alfettas, in fact my boss had one in the early 80's and I nearly bought one as my company car and they were always GTV6s ? Rich...

Another one here


>> Edited by richb on Monday 29th May 09:57

[Dutchie]

Ah ok, over here this was called an Alfetta:



Trust the Italians to make it as complicated as possible.

It has been done by the way, A Dutch Alfa Romeo tuner has a Dax with a 24v Alfa V6 engine (+/- 250bhp). Handlingwise no match for a bike engined or even a fourcilinder alternative, but the soundtrack will probably make up for that (at least to some extend).
http://squadra-tuning.com/Specials/Al

[jamieboy]

richb said:

Think you'll find it's actually a GTV6, in fact you are able to see the bulge in the bonnet which confirms it IS V6. I've never known these as Alfettas, in fact my boss had one in the early 80's and I nearly bought one as my company car and they were always GTV6s ? Rich...

The bonnet bulge confirms it's an Alfetta GTV6 as opposed to an Alfetta GTV 2000. Amongst other references, this is confirmed on pages 52-55 of Auto Italia, issue 14 (May-June 1997).

[richb]

jamieboy said:

richb said: Think you'll find it's actually a GTV6, in fact you are able to see the bulge in the bonnet which confirms it IS V6. I've never known these as Alfettas, in fact my boss had one in the early 80's and I nearly bought one as my company car and they were always GTV6s ? Rich... The bonnet bulge confirms it's an Alfetta GTV6 as opposed to an Alfetta GTV 2000. Amongst other references, this is confirmed on pages 52-55 of Auto Italia, issue 14 (May-June 1997).

Ah so it's both an Alfetta and a GTV, I apologise!

[mr clive]

ferg said:

So there are a few not-exactly-sought-after cars with that fabulous V6 that could donate engine and 'box to a 'Seven replica'......

I have been idly musing about something similar, though finances are unlikely to allow for a while yet.

The previous posters are unfortunatly correct about the RWD alfas having a transaxle. Perhaps its possible to fit one into a seven style car but I wouldnt want to try.

I think the best option is to mate the V6 to a T5 or a Type 9 gearbox, unfortunatly I havnt be able to find a custom bellhousing so one would have to have one made or make one themselves.

I have heard there is a rare alfa (alfa 6 possibly?) that used a standard RWD engine/gearbox arrangement. From what I can gather, the gearbox is rather weak, especially bolted to the later 24v V6, but it is possible to use the bellhousing from that and bolt it onto a gearbox from a masarati biturbo which is apparently a stronger version. Im still not sure if its true and its not something I would try but perhaps its an alternative.

[wildoliver]

If you can engineer the transaxle to fit you will have a lovely machine!

[xyyman]

mr clive said:

ferg said: So there are a few not-exactly-sought-after cars with that fabulous V6 that could donate engine and 'box to a 'Seven replica'...... I have been idly musing about something similar, though finances are unlikely to allow for a while yet. The previous posters are unfortunatly correct about the RWD alfas having a transaxle. Perhaps its possible to fit one into a seven style car but I wouldnt want to try. I think the best option is to mate the V6 to a T5 or a Type 9 gearbox, unfortunatly I havnt be able to find a custom bellhousing so one would have to have one made or make one themselves. I have heard there is a rare alfa (alfa 6 possibly?) that used a standard RWD engine/gearbox arrangement. From what I can gather, the gearbox is rather weak, especially bolted to the later 24v V6, but it is possible to use the bellhousing from that and bolt it onto a gearbox from a masarati biturbo which is apparently a stronger version. Im still not sure if its true and its not something I would try but perhaps its an alternative.

xyyman
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The exception being the Alfa 6, the first Alfa to use the 2.5 V6 and the only one to use it with a conventional gearbox (5 speed or auto).

Phil


Source: The Alfa Sporting Saloons by John Tipler. States the Alfa 6 was available with either 3 speed auto or five speed manual boxes both from ZF.

Phil

[fuoriserie]

Ferg

Maybe the new concept by Sbarro, the Alfa Romeo Diva

www.italiaspeed.com/2006/events/villa_d_este/diva/gallery_1/gallery.html

I think it looks stunning, maybe the front en needs some tweeking.........

[fuoriserie]

Elasis did all the engineering for the Diva.

Download the PDF for more info

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Ciao
Italo

[mekondelta]

Dutchie said:

164 was an all wheel drive car.

There was a 4 wheel drive and a front wheel drive, but no rear wheel drive. You can also include the 33 Permanent 4 if you're including 4wd.