992 ST

Same dampers, different settings, I've read that in multiple places, so it just needs a software flash to be developed then you can get 90% of the ST from a Touring for 1/3 the price.

Not sure i get all that,porsche at rensport said its the same car bar the software on the dampers.
The change of tyre will be night and day if more compliant,having heard all the nightmare stories from the journo,s who spend a couple of hours in a car of the gt3,i am pleasantly surprised how compliant the gt3cs is on mich cups and the st will probably be even better on the new Pirelli.
Any way enjoy it and use as intended.

As GuyR said, same dampers software change. Mag wheels will
add to the feeling of fluidity, but again those are available off the shelf for a Touring.

Evo confirmed this;

https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911/st
Your winged vs Touring dampers and springs are identical by the way.

So it's amazing what a decent damper set-up can do ... I wonder if P will make this an option on the Touring ??

The 992.2 GT3 Touring vs Winged car will feature a greater distinction between the two variants including a more road focused suspension set up based on what they have achieved with the S/T's more compliant set up.

Ones does tend to see that a lot where part numbers are identical but there's supposedly night and day differences....

The difficulty though would be getting a touring in exactly the same spec/setup as a ST to make that 'real' comparison I suppose. Corsa tyres were already highlighted as a difference but the Corsa I believe is actually slightly heavier than a Cup2 albeit probably with a softer sidewall and presumably lighter wheels on the ST as well so ideally one would want to have that identical if trying to compare the 2.

Would be interesting to plug the PASM control unit into something that spits out the differences in what the damping changes actually are if the difference really is in those changes (as compared to say setup/geometry etc differences).

It also helps the balance getting on and off the trailer at car shows

Perhaps ride comfort is the new understeer, I recall that every new GT3 tested seemed to banish the previous models tendency to understeer and you can only say that so many times can't you.

Ha - my '22 Touring is now on nearly 10k miles, probably worthless

[quote=Joscal]I’m just back from a blast in my new 992 Touring and am baffled at the reviews complaining about the ride quality. It’s far more compliant than the dsc controller fitted 991.2 it replaced.

I was prepared for the worst and had looked into the suspension secrets soft spring kit but there’s absolutely no need.

Mines a late ‘23 so I wonder if Porsche listened or maybe my geometry is set up right?

Those with ST’s coming are in for a treat!

I’d heard the very late GT3 Tourings seem to have different ride quality. This came from people who had early cars and then got new allocations. Apparently the new cars on cups are a lot better than early cars on Corsas.

I haven’t driven an early car and don’t have enough seat time to comment but I’d be interested to know if people are finding this as well.