Why is there so much hatred and conflict in the world?
Discussion
My father fought in WWII, and lost four brothers to the two world wars. As you can imagine, he was all but a pacifist. He shot down the highest aircraft, (at the time) and was featured on Pathe newsreels but he failed to collect the medal he was awarded. I was told that he did not think killing someone - the pilot died - was something to celebrate. He did his duty. I was born in 1946 and I know see that the general consensus was no more wars. My maternal uncles were very left wing (as seen nowadays, but then just left) and reckoned that it was the rulers who made them fight and kill people of another country for no particular reason.
Yet my father joined the army because he knew there was a war coming yet formed a friendship with the pilot of a plane he downed. The chap came to dad's funeral 35 years later. It sort of shows the stupidity of war.
We all enjoyed the Falklands War, cheering the successes and being furious at the losses we suffered. Yet it wasn't those who saw a war as a positive political move who died, just us plebs. And we cheered. We're all at fault.
There's a song that sort of encapsulates the waste of war, Dancing at Whitsun, by AJ Marshall. The lyrics are quite heart-breaking.
My father lost four or five brothers (it wasn't talked of) in the two world wars, and every on of his sisters (he had 10, with 7 brothers) lost a husband, possibly two. Yet we were poor. No one cared about the fighters or those who lost members of their family.
One of the problems is that we often revere our soldiery. Who do we stick at the top of the column? Yet it was our engineers, our reformers, especially reformers, our artists who made our lives better.
We are, they say, a step up from the apes. More like a shuffle forward I reckon.
Yet my father joined the army because he knew there was a war coming yet formed a friendship with the pilot of a plane he downed. The chap came to dad's funeral 35 years later. It sort of shows the stupidity of war.
We all enjoyed the Falklands War, cheering the successes and being furious at the losses we suffered. Yet it wasn't those who saw a war as a positive political move who died, just us plebs. And we cheered. We're all at fault.
There's a song that sort of encapsulates the waste of war, Dancing at Whitsun, by AJ Marshall. The lyrics are quite heart-breaking.
My father lost four or five brothers (it wasn't talked of) in the two world wars, and every on of his sisters (he had 10, with 7 brothers) lost a husband, possibly two. Yet we were poor. No one cared about the fighters or those who lost members of their family.
One of the problems is that we often revere our soldiery. Who do we stick at the top of the column? Yet it was our engineers, our reformers, especially reformers, our artists who made our lives better.
We are, they say, a step up from the apes. More like a shuffle forward I reckon.
My view is that the single biggest mistake humanity has made is in the creation of Countries.
We all live on the same planet yet have voluntarily corralled ourselves into pens. It's this that has led to the creation of conflict because if you find yourself somewhere that is not optimal, your ability to go somewhere else is limited, sometimes very much so.
Bad stuff would have still happened but I don't think it would be the level we see today.
We all live on the same planet yet have voluntarily corralled ourselves into pens. It's this that has led to the creation of conflict because if you find yourself somewhere that is not optimal, your ability to go somewhere else is limited, sometimes very much so.
Bad stuff would have still happened but I don't think it would be the level we see today.
Mercdriver said:
It is not religion that is the problem, it is people not accepting other people’s religions
Isn't tht implicit to most religions, and certainly the most popular ones. Telling the followers of the various religions that they are, to coin a phrase, the chosen people, and everyone else is not going to gain the advantages you are is, one might assume, part of the attraction.Mercdriver said:
It is not religion that is the problem, it is people not accepting other people’s religions
All religions are not equal.Some religions don't accept other religions....or even certain people's existence.
They're are all a problem though. Anything that teaches anti-science nonsense and divine rights is at odds with a free and fair society.
S600BSB said:
If everyone voted Labour, was a Remainer and supported Spurs then the world would be a much, much better place. But hey..
Basically yes but you can swap out any of those for anything else say Con, Leave and Villa. If everyone agreed on everything and thought the same then we'd all be sweet but we don't and that's the way it is.... Rufus Stone said:
I can't help wondering if it's because the current generations have no knowledge of the atrocities of large scale war. I think the human race is regressing not progressing. You might think that globalisation of business and largely worldwide access to information and people via the internet would make people realise that we are one planet and need to get along, but the red lines on the map are just getting brighter.
Watch the film HyperNormalisation it explains it all quite well, available on the Iplayer. 
Rufus Stone said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
We aren't. We're great apes, as are chimps, bonobos, orangutans and gorillas.
Evolution pedantry.
I suspect we haven't evolved as much as some people would like to think.Evolution pedantry.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6430317/T...
lizardbrain said:
in another 100 years time, it will more grown up again
I'm not sure that's true.Seems to me as soon as you set up a peaceful Democracy with a functioning welfare state everyone just stops breeding.
There's a bias towards growth among violent religious nutters. People in authoritarian s
t holes feel they have to breed to create people to protect themselves.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff