Eurovision 2024
Discussion
Forester1965 said:
Pretty meaningless tbh, the same effect as us naming Boaty McBoatface. Special interest group ramps up activity amongst their own population and here's the result. At least RATM got to number one when it happened with music last time!
Yes ,that enormous 5th of one per cent of the U.K. population they can call on .The BBC have concluded that the UK performer, performance and song were all great and we’ve laid a solid foundation for next year…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxx8z05058eo
Well there you go then, the problem was the audience…..
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxx8z05058eo
Well there you go then, the problem was the audience…..
Ultra Sound Guy said:
Ignoring any political agenda, the song was never destined to win! Why don’t we ever take notice of what kind of song/act is required for Eurovision?
Sam Ryder would have won it without the Ukraine war, he came second. The song and performer was crap this time. We can and have done better.
Edited by 732NM on Sunday 12th May 08:29
Forester1965 said:
HarryW said:
I see Israel got the second highest public vote, shame the juries weren’t on the same page as the public.
UK were dire, surprised the juries gave them more than zero tbh…
Pretty meaningless tbh, the same effect as us naming Boaty McBoatface. Special interest group ramps up activity amongst their own population and here's the result. At least RATM got to number one when it happened with music last time! UK were dire, surprised the juries gave them more than zero tbh…
JerseyRoyal said:
Forester1965 said:
HarryW said:
I see Israel got the second highest public vote, shame the juries weren’t on the same page as the public.
UK were dire, surprised the juries gave them more than zero tbh…
Pretty meaningless tbh, the same effect as us naming Boaty McBoatface. Special interest group ramps up activity amongst their own population and here's the result. At least RATM got to number one when it happened with music last time! UK were dire, surprised the juries gave them more than zero tbh…
Dizzy wasn’t a bad song, but it wasn’t very good either. With the effort we put in I thought it would do a little better.
Read the bbc article above, some sense in there. Maybe we should stop trying to win it and just swing for the fences. Right said Fred meets sausage rolls meets iron maiden
Read the bbc article above, some sense in there. Maybe we should stop trying to win it and just swing for the fences. Right said Fred meets sausage rolls meets iron maiden
I thought it was a silly and fun entertainment show just like every recent year. Also like every recent year I was impressed by just how professional the lighting and staging and sound were. Kids don’t know they’re born, do they?
Also, like every year I have almost no understanding how we end up with the points table!
I thought it unlikely the UK would do well simply on the basis that we rarely seem to do well irrespective of the merits of the song, the act or their performance. As it was again last night. I hope Olly was never under the illusion he would score better and simply enjoyed the ride. I expect he’ll return to commercial mainstream success easily enough.
Taken on their own merit as pop songs around a third of the tracks could easily do well on UK radio playlists if they were promoted properly, the rest.were absolutely fine to watch as light entertainment.
On the whole, excluding the parts after the singing and dancing have finished a great time to be had.
Also, like every year I have almost no understanding how we end up with the points table!
I thought it unlikely the UK would do well simply on the basis that we rarely seem to do well irrespective of the merits of the song, the act or their performance. As it was again last night. I hope Olly was never under the illusion he would score better and simply enjoyed the ride. I expect he’ll return to commercial mainstream success easily enough.
Taken on their own merit as pop songs around a third of the tracks could easily do well on UK radio playlists if they were promoted properly, the rest.were absolutely fine to watch as light entertainment.
On the whole, excluding the parts after the singing and dancing have finished a great time to be had.
732NM said:
Sam Ryder would have won it without the Ukraine war, he came second.
The song and performer was crap this time. We can and have done better.
I think it's unfair to say the song was crap, it wasn't crap it was just completely forgettable generic noise, perfectly fine background music but not something you'd hear, seek out then choose to listen to. The song and performer was crap this time. We can and have done better.
Edited by 732NM on Sunday 12th May 08:29
Randy Winkman said:
JerseyRoyal said:
Forester1965 said:
HarryW said:
I see Israel got the second highest public vote, shame the juries weren’t on the same page as the public.
UK were dire, surprised the juries gave them more than zero tbh…
Pretty meaningless tbh, the same effect as us naming Boaty McBoatface. Special interest group ramps up activity amongst their own population and here's the result. At least RATM got to number one when it happened with music last time! UK were dire, surprised the juries gave them more than zero tbh…
JerseyRoyal said:
The problem with our entries is that they’re made by the same folk who make all the other manufactured pop. Which isn’t really the right vibe for Eurovision.
Get some morris dancers doing the highland fling or something.
All the songs for all the countries are written by the same people. The writers of the Swiss entry were Swedish.Get some morris dancers doing the highland fling or something.
732NM said:
Ultra Sound Guy said:
Ignoring any political agenda, the song was never destined to win! Why don’t we ever take notice of what kind of song/act is required for Eurovision?
Sam Ryder would have won it without the Ukraine war, he came second. The song and performer was crap this time. We can and have done better.
Edited by 732NM on Sunday 12th May 08:29
By that i mean there was a point when he "lowered" the microphone behind on the dancers mouths but the camera angle made it look a dick.
Was that by accident or not on purposes im not sure but it looked that way.
Also politically wise i cant work out.
The public obviously support Israel and Ukraine still but defo hate the UK who have supported both...
honest_delboy said:
Dizzy wasn’t a bad song, but it wasn’t very good either. With the effort we put in I thought it would do a little better.
Read the bbc article above, some sense in there. Maybe we should stop trying to win it and just swing for the fences. Right said Fred meets sausage rolls meets iron maiden
Didnt we try that with scootch? or something like that? and it flopped.Read the bbc article above, some sense in there. Maybe we should stop trying to win it and just swing for the fences. Right said Fred meets sausage rolls meets iron maiden
what we need is
Big masssive dance tune
Fast beat
small 4 or 5 repeatable catchy word you can sing along with
come out the blocks firing all cylinders
ie
Moldova 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUqf_zO2QaI
An absolute banger helped by coming after 3 or 4 dreary solo slow songs.
asfault said:
732NM said:
Ultra Sound Guy said:
Ignoring any political agenda, the song was never destined to win! Why don’t we ever take notice of what kind of song/act is required for Eurovision?
Sam Ryder would have won it without the Ukraine war, he came second. The song and performer was crap this time. We can and have done better.
Edited by 732NM on Sunday 12th May 08:29
By that i mean there was a point when he "lowered" the microphone behind on the dancers mouths but the camera angle made it look a dick.
Was that by accident or not on purposes im not sure but it looked that way.
Also politically wise i cant work out.
The public obviously support Israel and Ukraine still but defo hate the UK who have supported both...
Outside of the Mail being "outraged" by Alexander's set and putting aside the fact the winner was non-binary and acts like Conchita Wurst have won previously I suspect it's as simple as we just don't quite "get" Europe and the whole Eurovision vibe.
Reminds me a bit of the Euros and the World Cup where there's always this weird build up where it's like we've got some divine right to win it.
We finished mid-table which is respectable and the public didn't like the song enough to vote for it in sufficient numbers.
It happens.
Reminds me a bit of the Euros and the World Cup where there's always this weird build up where it's like we've got some divine right to win it.
We finished mid-table which is respectable and the public didn't like the song enough to vote for it in sufficient numbers.
It happens.
Sheets Tabuer said:
It's difficult, we didn't have strong vocals but making it look like a load of blokes were shagging in a grotty toilet wouldn't have helped. Eurovision may well be camp as Christmas but staging a gay porn movie is probably pushing it too far.
Perhaps, but only because there is more of an 'ick fsctor' with gay sex for some people.Personally, I thought the Polish milkmaids a few years ago was way more overt
Sheets Tabuer said:
It's difficult, we didn't have strong vocals but making it look like a load of blokes were shagging in a grotty toilet wouldn't have helped. Eurovision may well be camp as Christmas but staging a gay porn movie is probably pushing it too far.
Perhaps, but only because there is more of an 'ick fsctor' with gay sex for some people.Personally, I thought the Polish milkmaids a few years ago was way more overt
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Outside of the Mail being "outraged" by Alexander's set and putting aside the fact the winner was non-binary and acts like Conchita Wurst have won previously I suspect it's as simple as we just don't quite "get" Europe and the whole Eurovision vibe.
Reminds me a bit of the Euros and the World Cup where there's always this weird build up where it's like we've got some divine right to win it.
We finished mid-table which is respectable and the public didn't like the song enough to vote for it in sufficient numbers.
It happens.
It's a fair point. We either want to win or come last, with some kind of perverse pleasure in the latter.Reminds me a bit of the Euros and the World Cup where there's always this weird build up where it's like we've got some divine right to win it.
We finished mid-table which is respectable and the public didn't like the song enough to vote for it in sufficient numbers.
It happens.
As you say, we had a perfectly acceptable placing.
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