An epidemic of insanely slow drivers

Come on Pan Pan Pan, can you not see that all this is tongue in cheek because I know how invested you are in all this "everyone must drive at the speed limits so I can get where I want to go with no hold ups" ?

Now the irony is that you accuse me of being selfish and yet you want everyone else to drive to suit your desires and needs.

Lighten up a bit and stop taking everything I post as absolute gospel.

As I posted before I spent 15 years driving 95k miles a year, do you honestly think I drove around all that time holding people up on purpose whilst admiring the scenery, much to the chagrin of all my customers, who continued using my service for 15 years until I retired.

Chill out and stop the frothing

Just enjoy the banter.

I drove up to Stirling from the North East England area the other day, I noticed that not only were the Scottish roads in better condition than in England, but also the drivers on 60 mph A roads actually tended to do 60 most of the time. As soon as I was back in England, the presence of potholes and dawdlers once again made themselves known.

Yep, I do quite a lot of drives up to Scotland and people are always letting me pass. It happens to a lesser extent in places like Northumberland, but any further south, you've got no chance of getting that level of courtesy, quite the opposite, they probably take great pleasure in holding someone else up.

I feel pretty certain the standard of driving in Scotland was, in general, far better than in England generally.

T'was just an observation, chap.

I guess it's probably very area dependent. As TRD says, it's not too bad in Northumberland and quieter parts of the north east generally but then there are lots of narrow, rural roads and I think people just get used to understanding that team work keeps everything flowing for everybody. I don't necessarily think it's a good/bd attitude thing though maybe I'm being overly optimistic. When you go to the lakes out of season, everything seems to work like clock work but as soon as you introduce lots of visitors who aren't used to constantly thinking about what can be coming the other way or what's behind them, everything seems to jam up. I see this in quiet parts of Scotland as well where single track roads can be almost blocked by drivers following each other too closely and having little groups that are too big for one passing place so you get two groups like that meeting somewhere and the road gets blocked both ways while they sort it all out. Happens in the middle of nowhere! I don't really think this sort of thing happens to locals of these areas as they're just used to the mechanics of how it all keeps moving.

I was on my bike in Wales yesterday - worst one I came across was a middle aged woman in a blue Golf

Came through a small village signed at 20 and met a 25mph convoy behind the Golf around a mile later on an NSL

Even with a 150bhp bike, with the poor sightlines I had to take 2 / 3 car bites out of it, with the usual poor car spacing, it would have been impossible in a car

I gave a suitable gesture to the Golf driver... and disappeared

Not another one who believes every word typed on the internet

Wrong yet again . I don't want everyone else to drive to suit `my' desires, and needs, I want them to drive in accordance with the highway code, The roads authorities, and the Police. If you have been dawdling for 15 years, heaven only knows, how many other people whose journeys you have delayed and disrupted, but shockingly, you seem to be proud of what you say you have done.

I agree

But there's not a hope in hell. These 'turds' fit the culture and align with the widespread imposition of 20mph limits (37% of all roads in Wales).

The future is slow - Get used to it...

The M4 in Wales isn't limited to 20 mph, yet