RE: 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 N | UK Review
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Similar range to a petrol i30 N then! What people need to understand is that when you get in an EV, the range suggested is a Guess-o-meter. Once the car works out your style of driving, the GOM will become more accurate. These test cars have been thrashed by the journos so predicted range will always be lower than real time ownership. This learnt from owning my own EV.
JAMSXR said:
Quite a few on Auto Trader with discounts, bodes well for the used market. However, the range is still a big letdown for a car like this (at this price point).
Our 200 mile family run around EV is fine, but I would want more from a car like this.
I never look at my RS4 mpg, but for some reason the efficiency of the family Tesla seems to be a thing. Not sure why, it costs nothing to run.
It's a press car with 650bhp, so likely driven with the throttle pedal fully pressed as often as possible. So simple physics dictates range will be much lowerOur 200 mile family run around EV is fine, but I would want more from a car like this.
I never look at my RS4 mpg, but for some reason the efficiency of the family Tesla seems to be a thing. Not sure why, it costs nothing to run.
Need more range?-> Drive less enthusiastically, or buy one of the lower power, less licence busting Ioniq 5's
In terms of energy use, 2.7 miles per kWh is the same as 91 MPG.
There are no ICE cars with this level of performance achieving 91 MPG, heck, doubtful there are any ICE cars, at any performance level averaging 91MPG !
Edited by SDK on Thursday 9th May 08:45
bennno said:
This will depreciate like a piano pushed off a balcony
My wife has a lower spec Ioniq 5. I think the problem a lot of people have with them is that in pictures without something for reference they look like a smaller class of car, then in the metal the fact they are larger is off putting. As a daily driver I like our Ioniq 5, it’s spacious, quiet, quick enough and has the low centre of gravity thing you get with EVs despite being heavier. When they were first rumoured last year I was speaking with the dealer about getting an N. Recently my wife wanted to change her car for non car specific reasons but when we looked at the depreciation on the current car it was absolutely horrific ( which in fairness is no worse than a lot/most EVs). I agree after the initial burst of enthusiasm I can’t see an N being any different, probably worse. I certainly wouldn’t buy one new.
Edited by Greedydog on Thursday 9th May 08:37
I really like the looks of this N version, it's the EV I'd have if faced with no other choice (ICE) The road tests have been very positive, Harris took it round a track and really liked it as an example, the fake gears are a great idea to add some feedback to the drive when you want it.
Don't understand the comments about the size it's X3 sized but in a hatchback shape that's all, walked passed one the other day it's not massive in the slightest, about as long as a 3 series touring.
Test drove one recently for about 1.5hrs and thought it was brilliant; I'm likely in a niche position where I'm after a larger 'Jekyll and Hyde' vehicle that I enjoy driving and my partner also likes, but our driving styles are quite different. Obviously it's still outrageously powerful in Eco mode, but it has a very easy and chilled way of driving compared to being in sport mode.
I was preparing for the vehicle to be absolutely huge after watching some videos, but although it's bigger than a normal hatch (I drive a Fiesta ST - definitely bigger than that!), it's not as massive as some reviewers seemed to imply. Yeah, it's big, but when you're driving it, it felt smaller than it actually is.
Also, I appreciate looks are subjective, but I think it looks fantastic. Can't quite put my finger on it, but I'm a big fan of the changes they've made to the base Ioniq 5 (which I'm also a fan of looks wise). I didn't think I would, but the white version is my new favourite after seeing it in person; the combination of whites/greys/blacks punctuated by the luminous orange highlights just looks great in my eyes.
Mostly, it was just fun. Yeah it has some silly options, I can see me using Ignition sound 99.9% of the time and the other two once before switching back, but I thought it was a genuinely fun car to drive and I can see it putting a smile on my face every time I get in it.
If I don't get this, I'll probably hang on for the N-Line version, as that has some nice updates/changes compared to the existing Ioniq 5 and go for the 'comfy' version instead lol.
I was preparing for the vehicle to be absolutely huge after watching some videos, but although it's bigger than a normal hatch (I drive a Fiesta ST - definitely bigger than that!), it's not as massive as some reviewers seemed to imply. Yeah, it's big, but when you're driving it, it felt smaller than it actually is.
Also, I appreciate looks are subjective, but I think it looks fantastic. Can't quite put my finger on it, but I'm a big fan of the changes they've made to the base Ioniq 5 (which I'm also a fan of looks wise). I didn't think I would, but the white version is my new favourite after seeing it in person; the combination of whites/greys/blacks punctuated by the luminous orange highlights just looks great in my eyes.
Mostly, it was just fun. Yeah it has some silly options, I can see me using Ignition sound 99.9% of the time and the other two once before switching back, but I thought it was a genuinely fun car to drive and I can see it putting a smile on my face every time I get in it.
If I don't get this, I'll probably hang on for the N-Line version, as that has some nice updates/changes compared to the existing Ioniq 5 and go for the 'comfy' version instead lol.
Badgerr said:
Similar range to a petrol i30 N then! What people need to understand is that when you get in an EV, the range suggested is a Guess-o-meter. Once the car works out your style of driving, the GOM will become more accurate. These test cars have been thrashed by the journos so predicted range will always be lower than real time ownership. This learnt from owning my own EV.
However, in your petrol i30N you can add another 200 miles of range in 2 minutes at thousands of outlets across the country Greedydog said:
bennno said:
This will depreciate like a piano pushed off a balcony
My wife has a lower spec Ioniq 5. I think the problem a lot of people have with them is that in pictures without something for reference they look like a smaller class of car, then in the metal the fact they are larger is off putting. As a daily driver I like our Ioniq 5, it’s spacious, quiet, quick enough and has the low centre of gravity thing you get with EVs despite being heavier. When they were first rumoured last year I was speaking with the dealer about getting an N. Recently my wife wanted to change her car for non car specific reasons but when we looked at the depreciation on the current car it was absolutely horrific ( which in fairness is no worse than a lot/most EVs). I agree after the initial burst of enthusiasm I can’t see an N being any different, probably worse. I certainly wouldn’t buy one new.
Edited by Greedydog on Thursday 9th May 08:37
Alot of chatter about depreciation here, obviously from people under 30.
It used to be in the good old 90's and 2000's that all cars depreciated, hence why you could pick up exciting old hot hatches, big Mercs, M cars and pretty much anything else for proper money, think a few grand at most.
Since 2008 the collector car (god I had that term) thing has got everyone thinking anything with 4 wheels and an ICE is some sort of investment.
Hopefully EV's will take us back to what it used to be like and you can pick up a fast or interesting motor for sod all money,.
Depreciation is a great thing for all petrolheads, embrace it!
It used to be in the good old 90's and 2000's that all cars depreciated, hence why you could pick up exciting old hot hatches, big Mercs, M cars and pretty much anything else for proper money, think a few grand at most.
Since 2008 the collector car (god I had that term) thing has got everyone thinking anything with 4 wheels and an ICE is some sort of investment.
Hopefully EV's will take us back to what it used to be like and you can pick up a fast or interesting motor for sod all money,.
Depreciation is a great thing for all petrolheads, embrace it!
Other reviews I have seen say you can go full rear wheel drive whereas here it mentions it only goes to 90/10?
I think it can go full rear drive which should presumably tone down the speed a bit which would allow you to enjoy the driver focused features a little more! I suspect I'd have it in rear drive all the time if I had one.
I was not that interested in this car until these reviews popped up and now I am really intrigued. The only thing for me is that it is a bit garish... I'd have to go all black and wrap those red bits on the side!
My ideal scenario would be an ioniq 5 "touring" that looked like the normal car from the outside... Q car to the extreme!
£65k seems reasonable in all honesty for the EV market but I would prefer one depreciated a bit.
PS: Range... since the people who are wrong won't take it on board it feels pointless to say, but those who know, know 200+ miles is plenty in most scenarios (3-4+ hours driving), and PH conveniently leave out that during their test the range is more like 230mi (at 2.7m/k vs 2.2m/k when they got in) and of course, if you drive it in normal traffic you are going to see 250+ and then also the ioniq 5 with 800V charges absurdly quickly, so there no range issues *at all*
I think it can go full rear drive which should presumably tone down the speed a bit which would allow you to enjoy the driver focused features a little more! I suspect I'd have it in rear drive all the time if I had one.
I was not that interested in this car until these reviews popped up and now I am really intrigued. The only thing for me is that it is a bit garish... I'd have to go all black and wrap those red bits on the side!
My ideal scenario would be an ioniq 5 "touring" that looked like the normal car from the outside... Q car to the extreme!
£65k seems reasonable in all honesty for the EV market but I would prefer one depreciated a bit.
PS: Range... since the people who are wrong won't take it on board it feels pointless to say, but those who know, know 200+ miles is plenty in most scenarios (3-4+ hours driving), and PH conveniently leave out that during their test the range is more like 230mi (at 2.7m/k vs 2.2m/k when they got in) and of course, if you drive it in normal traffic you are going to see 250+ and then also the ioniq 5 with 800V charges absurdly quickly, so there no range issues *at all*
Here we go again. Moaning about range from those who have never lived with an EV and no information at all about fast charging speed, which is at least as important as range, if not more so.
According to the EV database, this thing can fast charge at 240 kW DC max and has an average (10-80%) fast charge speed of 210 kW. Its fast charge time from 38 to 308 km is just 17 minutes, which is quicker than most people need to stretch their legs, have a pee and get a snack. So there.
According to the EV database, this thing can fast charge at 240 kW DC max and has an average (10-80%) fast charge speed of 210 kW. Its fast charge time from 38 to 308 km is just 17 minutes, which is quicker than most people need to stretch their legs, have a pee and get a snack. So there.
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