RE: New 550hp BMW M4 CS promises 'iconic M feeling'
Discussion
Mr Tidy said:
And about 20% too big!
I'd really rather have a smaller M2 (and a manual gearbox).
I don’t think it’s comparable until the M2 CS comes along. I'd really rather have a smaller M2 (and a manual gearbox).
This M4 CS is just a different level of performance and the current M2 is more mini M4 compared to the previous gen were the M2 was the better car.
Rudolf Hucker said:
Its about 500kg too heavy.....
What decade are you still in?!
BMW have only ever made one light(ish) M car, and that was the E30 M3 back in the 80's. However that still only had a poxy 4 cylinder NA engine in it though!(I'd personally take the E30 325i for its 6 cylinder engine over the E30 M3 for example).
cerb4.5lee said:
What decade are you still in?!
BMW have only ever made one light(ish) M car, and that was the E30 M3 back in the 80's. However that still only had a poxy 4 cylinder NA engine in it though!(I'd personally take the E30 325i for its 6 cylinder engine over the E30 M3 for example).
Edited by pheonix478 on Thursday 9th May 00:30
HighwayStar said:
Mr Tidy said:
And about 20% too big!
I'd really rather have a smaller M2 (and a manual gearbox).
Funny that… that’s what the M2 is for. I'd really rather have a smaller M2 (and a manual gearbox).
otolith said:
pb8g09 said:
Can you spec it without the lipstick?
BMW must be familiar with the idiom “to put lipstick on a pig”Edited by pheonix478 on Thursday 9th May 03:20
Rusty Old-Banger said:
Ken_Code said:
Bladedancer said:
Not really. I prefer proper 223 rem in rifle form rather than an SMG made from a tin can.
What on Earth does that mean?
Some people get a little excited talking about it.
In case it needs further explanation, it was a jab at the "M3 > M4" but my miscalculation was the fact that I forgot that Brits will only get references to cars and football and not much else
It might be a sign I'm working too long with Americans.Edited by Bladedancer on Thursday 9th May 09:36
Bladedancer said:
Well done someone finally got it.
In case it needs further explanation, it was a jab at the "M3 > M4" but my miscalculation was the fact that I forgot that Brits will only get references to cars and football and not much else It might be a sign I'm working too long with Americans.
Or playing too many computer games In case it needs further explanation, it was a jab at the "M3 > M4" but my miscalculation was the fact that I forgot that Brits will only get references to cars and football and not much else
It might be a sign I'm working too long with Americans.Edited by Bladedancer on Thursday 9th May 09:36
GeniusOfLove said:
Bladedancer said:
Well done someone finally got it.
In case it needs further explanation, it was a jab at the "M3 > M4" but my miscalculation was the fact that I forgot that Brits will only get references to cars and football and not much else It might be a sign I'm working too long with Americans.
Or playing too many computer games In case it needs further explanation, it was a jab at the "M3 > M4" but my miscalculation was the fact that I forgot that Brits will only get references to cars and football and not much else
It might be a sign I'm working too long with Americans.Edited by Bladedancer on Thursday 9th May 09:36
Bladedancer said:
GeniusOfLove said:
Bladedancer said:
Well done someone finally got it.
In case it needs further explanation, it was a jab at the "M3 > M4" but my miscalculation was the fact that I forgot that Brits will only get references to cars and football and not much else It might be a sign I'm working too long with Americans.
Or playing too many computer games In case it needs further explanation, it was a jab at the "M3 > M4" but my miscalculation was the fact that I forgot that Brits will only get references to cars and football and not much else
It might be a sign I'm working too long with Americans.Edited by Bladedancer on Thursday 9th May 09:36
Terminator X said:
greggy50 said:
Looks a great package but the price seems properly mental.
I have just picked up a brand new M2 with the plus pack for £59k after discount which is half the price of this.
It's half the car though tbf.I have just picked up a brand new M2 with the plus pack for £59k after discount which is half the price of this.
TX.
The M2 and M4 are now very similar underneath (hence the weight) other than the M2 having a shorter wheelbase and being RWD only.
Even the M4 CSL suspension bits are effectively a bolt on part to the M2 (if you wanted)
Personally, I am going to do an Evolve remap to circa. 600bhp (comes with a warranty) and fit coilovers but probably in spring next year once I have had a few months to get used to it...
Edited by greggy50 on Thursday 9th May 17:30
greggy50 said:
Having driven both the new M4 Comp and M2 back to back I would strongly disagree unless the CS completely transforms the way the M4 drives.
The M2 and M4 are now very similar underneath (hence the weight) other than the M2 having a shorter wheelbase and being RWD only.
Even the M4 CSL suspension bits are effectively a bolt on part to the M2 (if you wanted)
Personally, I am going to do an Evolve remap to circa. 600bhp (comes with a warranty) and fit coilovers but probably in spring next year once I have had a few months to get used to it...
My money would 100% go on the M2 also. I haven't driven the newest one but my only gripe about the previous one was the ride was atrocious and felt like it had no suspension at all, I guess if you're talking about coilovers on a brand new car, the new one isn't much better?The M2 and M4 are now very similar underneath (hence the weight) other than the M2 having a shorter wheelbase and being RWD only.
Even the M4 CSL suspension bits are effectively a bolt on part to the M2 (if you wanted)
Personally, I am going to do an Evolve remap to circa. 600bhp (comes with a warranty) and fit coilovers but probably in spring next year once I have had a few months to get used to it...
Edited by greggy50 on Thursday 9th May 17:30
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