Apostrophe'''''s, when did the rot set in?

Apostrophe'''''s, when did the rot set in?

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Rouleur

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Wednesday 26th January 2011
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NHK244V said:
Swansea to london, used the brakes at the roundabout on J47 and never touched em till J25 of the M25, Bowt 240 miles in a recovery truck loaded with a cortina on the back smile
At least he got 'brakes' right...

central

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scotty_d said:
Removing the old bush's, i found burning the centre's out...

Cock Womble 7

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Sunday 30th January 2011
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caterhamboy said:
Just got back from the alp's

El Guapo

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Tuesday 1st February 2011
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dazzztay said:
Is this you're internet cry for help?

One step infront of scratching you're forearms with the sharp bit of a compass? or taking the last of the Rennie's, Lemsip's and Diacure's to end it all?

singlecoil

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Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Sam_68 said:
hanging you're driver's feet out the front -
50%, still below the pass level.

Lois

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252 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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I was reading my nephew's English homework and I disagree with part of the text (it was not even homework on apostrophe'''''s).
It said:
"people who write about children's books"

I think it should say
"people who write about childrens' books"

Which is right?

marshalla

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201 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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The former. Children is plural, children's is the possessive plural.

Lois

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Tuesday 1st February 2011
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I thought it was a double plural so it went at the end.

Bill

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Tuesday 1st February 2011
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marshalla said:
The former. Children is plural, children's is the possessive plural.
yes You'd never write "childrens".

And...

TVR Tommy said:
I have lots of non car related fowpars to my name.
Oh dear frown

dibbly dobbler

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197 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Bill said:
TVR Tommy said:
I have lots of non car related fowpars to my name.
Oh dear frown
Have a ROFL for that one! rofl

Muntu

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Tuesday 1st February 2011
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seagrey said:
1,mind you where I live there s nothing but trees and a few cows to nick,bugger all else.
Christ on a crutch...

daveco

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207 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Another question.

Say I have a painting that has to go to a gallery that is called the ''Freddie Sheers gallery'', and I need to confirm if it is going to said gallery or somewhere else, do I phrase it thus; 'Do we deliver to Freddie Sheer's Gallery', or do we deliver to 'the Freddie Sheers Gallery', as his name is already plural?

dibbly dobbler

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Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Is his name Sheer or Sheers ?

daveco

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Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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dibbly dobbler said:
Is his name Sheer or Sheers ?
Sheers

marshalla

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201 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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If it is the gallery belonging to Freddie Sheer, then it's "Freddie Sheer's gallery"
If it's the gallery belonging to Freddie Sheers, then it's "Freddie Sheers' gallery"

but if it is called "The Freddie Sheers Gallery" then it's "The Freddie Sheers Gallery" as that is its name.

(stops for 5 minutes to quintuple check everything in the above)

marshalla

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201 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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anonymous said:
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What do you mean by a double plural ?

The only definition I've ever seen for that refers to plural words where the plural usage has become obscured through time, so an additional plural ending is added.

daveco

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207 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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marshalla said:
If it is the gallery belonging to Freddie Sheer, then it's "Freddie Sheer's gallery"
If it's the gallery belonging to Freddie Sheers, then it's "Freddie Sheers' gallery"

but if it is called "The Freddie Sheers Gallery" then it's "The Freddie Sheers Gallery" as that is its name.

(stops for 5 minutes to quintuple check everything in the above)
So placing the apostrophe after the last letter can denote ownership as well as plurality(if that's a word)? Wouldn't that confuse matters; i.e. Freddie Sheers owns several galleries?

marshalla

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201 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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daveco said:
So placing the apostrophe after the last letter can denote ownership as well as plurality(if that's a word)?
No - an apostrophe never indicates a plural. Convention is that it is placed after the terminal "s" for words which normally end that way.

daveco said:
Wouldn't that confuse matters; i.e. Freddie Sheers owns several galleries?
No - there's only one gallerY - if he had multiple gallerIES the ending of that word would give it away.

Freddy Sheers' gallery vs. Freddy Sheers' galleries.

The plurality of the owner has no bearing on the plurality of the owned.

Edited by marshalla on Wednesday 2nd February 12:42

daveco

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Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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marshalla said:
No - there's only one gallerY - if he had multiple gallerIES the ending of that word would give it away.

Freddy Sheers's gallery vs. Freddy Sheers' galleries.

The plurality of the owner has no bearing on the plurality of the owned.
So;
-Gordon Ramsays' Restaurants is correct as he owns several restaurants?
-Is it Freddie Sheers' Gallery or Freddie Sheers's gallery or are both correct if he owns only one gallery?

singlecoil

33,622 posts

246 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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daveco said:
So;
-Gordon Ramsays' Restaurants is correct as he owns several restaurants?
-Is it Freddie Sheers' Gallery or Freddie Sheers's gallery or are both correct if he owns only one gallery?
Gordon Ramsay's Restaurants

Freddie Sheers' Gallery