Oxfordshire Council to Trial a Climate Lockdown from 2024
Oxfordshire Council to Trial a Climate Lockdown from 2024
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bigothunter

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12,975 posts

82 months

Monday 5th December 2022
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Good news in our fight against Climate Change? Should other county councils follow this bold move? Or has Oxford CC exceeded its authority and should be resisted? scratchchin

Watts Up With That said:
Oxfordshire County Council yesterday approved plans to lock residents into one of six zones to ‘save the planet’ from global warming. The latest stage in the ’15 minute city’ agenda is to place electronic gates on key roads in and out of the city, confining residents to their own neighbourhoods.

Under the new scheme if residents want to leave their zone they will need permission from the Council who gets to decide who is worthy of freedom and who isn’t. Under the new scheme residents will be allowed to leave their zone a maximum of 100 days per year, but in order to even gain this every resident will have to register their car details with the council who will then track their movements via smart cameras round the city.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/12/04/oxfordshire...

5lab

1,801 posts

218 months

Monday 5th December 2022
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That site seems to have added 2 and 2 and got 5.

What they're actually doing seems to be putting filters on 6 major arterial routes, which may be a good or bad idea, but is a long way from trapping residents in their neighbourhoods

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-e...

heebeegeetee

29,826 posts

270 months

Monday 5th December 2022
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bigothunter said:
Good news in our fight against Climate Change? Should other county councils follow this bold move? Or has Oxford CC exceeded its authority and should be resisted? scratchchin

Watts Up With That said:
Oxfordshire County Council yesterday approved plans to lock residents into one of six zones to ‘save the planet’ from global warming. The latest stage in the ’15 minute city’ agenda is to place electronic gates on key roads in and out of the city, confining residents to their own neighbourhoods.

Under the new scheme if residents want to leave their zone they will need permission from the Council who gets to decide who is worthy of freedom and who isn’t. Under the new scheme residents will be allowed to leave their zone a maximum of 100 days per year, but in order to even gain this every resident will have to register their car details with the council who will then track their movements via smart cameras round the city.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/12/04/oxfordshire...
The above is utter codswallop of course. Britain seems to have captured the market in dinosaurs, and heads the resistance to any manner of change. smile

I believe the idea came form Ghent, don't know if anywhere else has done it, The Guardian reports that the locals are happy.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/2...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/2...


bigothunter

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12,975 posts

82 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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5lab said:
That site seems to have added 2 and 2 and got 5.

What they're actually doing seems to be putting filters on 6 major arterial routes, which may be a good or bad idea, but is a long way from trapping residents in their neighbourhoods

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-e...
Thanks for that BBC report. Found this part revealing:

BBC said:
Zuhura Plummer, campaign director for Oxfordshire Liveable Streets, said: "Oxfordshire is leading the country in doing this and it will leave a lasting legacy.

"The official analysis of the scheme found that it will mean 35% less traffic, road casualties down 9%, rush hour buses running 15% quicker and air pollution down at 91% of locations.

"This will save lives and make our city more pleasant now and for future generations."
Not surprising that Oxford CC has full backing from Zuhura Plummer - she's an Extinction Rebellion activist. The scope of Oxford's ambitions needs watching.



havoc

32,510 posts

257 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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Oxford is an apparently lovely city which I have not visited for >20 years as they've made it far too fking difficult to get into the place.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

5,016 posts

245 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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interesting that 35% reduction in traffic only reduces casualties by 9%.
I know its wrong but I quite fancy that Zuhura. Don't think we'd get on though. She's an artist and beatnik, privately educated with a trust fund. So plenty of time to espouse her idealism with no hint of irony.

DOCG

714 posts

76 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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heebeegeetee said:
The above is utter codswallop of course. Britain seems to have captured the market in dinosaurs, and heads the resistance to any manner of change. smile

I believe the idea came form Ghent, don't know if anywhere else has done it, The Guardian reports that the locals are happy.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/2...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/2...
It is partially true, residents with a permit would be allowed to pass through the filters only 100 days out of the year.

MustangGT

13,631 posts

302 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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DOCG said:
heebeegeetee said:
The above is utter codswallop of course. Britain seems to have captured the market in dinosaurs, and heads the resistance to any manner of change. smile

I believe the idea came form Ghent, don't know if anywhere else has done it, The Guardian reports that the locals are happy.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/2...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/2...
It is partially true, residents with a permit would be allowed to pass through the filters only 100 days out of the year.
Just wait for the first trial case for 'false imprisonment'. Last I heard the UK was a free society with no controls on movements.

Solocle

3,970 posts

106 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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DOCG said:
It is partially true, residents with a permit would be allowed to pass through the filters only 100 days out of the year.
If residents need to go somewhere on day 101, they can always use the Ring Road...

SydneyBridge

10,829 posts

180 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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Is this actually going to get anyone to stop using their cars, surely it will make people drive further and cause more pollution?
Are electic vehicles exempt or are all vehicles treated the same?

poo at Paul's

14,535 posts

197 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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Oxford, go fxxk yourself!

Type R Tom

4,204 posts

171 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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MustangGT said:
DOCG said:
heebeegeetee said:
The above is utter codswallop of course. Britain seems to have captured the market in dinosaurs, and heads the resistance to any manner of change. smile

I believe the idea came form Ghent, don't know if anywhere else has done it, The Guardian reports that the locals are happy.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/2...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/2...
It is partially true, residents with a permit would be allowed to pass through the filters only 100 days out of the year.
Just wait for the first trial case for 'false imprisonment'. Last I heard the UK was a free society with no controls on movements.
Which part of the law says that movement must be by car?

Unreal

8,635 posts

47 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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clickbait

Paft Dunk

351 posts

280 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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Tried to book a long weekend away in Oxford last winter. Seemed impossible to do with a car. Hotels I looked at didn’t have car parks and and a max stay of 72 hours in a £40 per day public car park if I recall. Their rules successfully prevented me taking a car to Oxford, had a lovely weekend on the Norfolk coast instead.

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

45 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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The idiots who try to bring in legislation like this actually think pollution stays put and drifts no where. The air will be of the same quality whether its the centre of Oxford or a 5 mile radius.
The planet won't be 'saved' by daft schemes like this nor will EV's in the UK or Europe have any impact in the grand scheme of overall world pollution.
Ban all shipping, all aviation,gas &coal power stations plus all big industry/ foundrys ect worldwide and it may save a small portion of the ozone layer..

Edited by Draxindustries1 on Tuesday 6th December 18:19

carinaman

24,170 posts

194 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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Solocle said:
DOCG said:
It is partially true, residents with a permit would be allowed to pass through the filters only 100 days out of the year.
If residents need to go somewhere on day 101, they can always use the Ring Road...
Thereby making a longer journey burning more fuel and increasing pollution. It's about saving the planet or controlling the plebs?

otolith

64,812 posts

226 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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Oxford hates cars. Just don't go there.

Type R Tom

4,204 posts

171 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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carinaman said:
Solocle said:
DOCG said:
It is partially true, residents with a permit would be allowed to pass through the filters only 100 days out of the year.
If residents need to go somewhere on day 101, they can always use the Ring Road...
Thereby making a longer journey burning more fuel and increasing pollution. It's about saving the planet or controlling the plebs?
Or make the 1-mile journey across town safer, easier and more enjoyable using a sustainable method as there is less traffic around causing problems?

carreauchompeur

18,292 posts

226 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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fking hell, their parking charges are a little steep

OutInTheShed

12,795 posts

48 months

Tuesday 6th December 2022
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Oxford and Cambridge.

Rival university towns.
Rivals at being the small city with the worst traffic management?

Bath is having a good attempt too!