RE: Ford Fiesta XR2 | PH Auction Block

RE: Ford Fiesta XR2 | PH Auction Block

Wednesday 22nd May

Ford Fiesta XR2 | PH Auction Block

The new fast Fiesta is no more, but a few classics remain - and perhaps none better than this


With the ST badge adorning so many fast Fords over the past 25 years, it’s easy to forget sometimes just how popular and famous the old XRs were. Not as iconic (or as pricey) as the various RS Turbos and Cosworths of this world, they were for many what a Blue Oval performance flagship should be all about: quick, cheap, good-looking and fun to drive. Whether Fiesta XR2, Escort XR3 or Sierra XR4i, with carb or with injection for the smaller stuff, they put a lot of smiles on a lot of faces back in the day. Which is why they all remain so revered. 

Problem being, of course, that fast and cheap way back when tended to finish up one way. The fast Fords were certainly not alone in this. When various pocket rockets had big smashes or major mechanical maladies and weren’t worth very much, they were immediately written off. There was no point saving cheap, plentiful cars. Obviously nobody predicted how far values might rise, but it’s still sad to see so few remaining. 

This XR2 is one of the survivors, being auctioned on PH right now, and it looks an absolute gem. Your eyes don’t deceive you, the screen isn’t overly flattering - this Fiesta really does look 40 days old rather than 40 years. That’s thanks to an extensive restoration that’s taken place over the past few years, the car recovered from a garage back in 2018 and now brought back to its best. Indeed better than its best, because this particular XR2 is also hiding a few choice modifications. 

We must talk about the exterior first, however. A bare metal respray was part of the recommissioning process, the flawlessly glossy black set off perfectly with the XR2 decals and iconic (refurbished) pepperpot wheels. All Mk1 Fiestas are sufficiently old now that you just don’t see them, let alone XR2s; to be presented with one this good can’t help but raise the spirits. Interestingly, the interior didn’t require any remedial work, as it has survived this long looking this good. Even the standard long-wave radio remains in place. 

It’s under the bonnet though where things get interesting for this particular XR2. An invoice in the history folder shows almost £4,500 being spent rebuilding the carb-fed 1.6, now bored out to 1,665cc with new pistons, a new Piper cam, a lighter flywheel, rebuilt carb and gas-flowed head. The gearbox was also refreshed and rebuilt at the same time. It isn’t clear how much additional power the modifications have achieved, though clearly a lot has been invested in getting the best from the engine. With precious little use since the work, whoever’s lucky enough to get the Fiesta will have to continue the running in process. 

With better brakes and Gaz suspension on top, here’s an XR2 that might be just as good as your memory says they all were. With so few left on the road but a keen following that shows no signs of diminishing - especially with the Fiesta now out of production - expect bidding to be enthusiastic. The auction is open till next Friday evening - and the Ford Fair is at Silverstone in August…


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Firebobby

Original Poster:

580 posts

41 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Why would you? Back in the day they were, course, noisy, slow, and rotted like a pear in an abandoned orchard! Today they're good only for those who own a pair of the most rose tinted of glasses. Move on please.

Nish Gnackers

1,086 posts

43 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Guide Price

biglaugh

Thomo97

68 posts

192 months

Thursday 23rd May
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I'd be up for a 30 minute drive for the sake of nostalgia ... but ownership at approx £20k. No thanks.

chirurgus

147 posts

218 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Firebobby said:
Why would you? Back in the day they were, coarse, noisy, slow, and rotted like a pear in an abandoned orchard! Today they're good only for those who own a pair of the most rose tinted of glasses. Move on please.
I had a white Mk I Fiesta 1.1 when I was 17. It was so old and rusty that you could see the ground through the boot floor and it was decrepit in every possible way. But it gave me instant freedom and facilitated some fantastic memories with great friends. Also, it taught me a huge amount about car control…
…at least I thought it had until the moment that I found myself hanging from the seatbelt surrounded by broken glass and wondering how I would be able to get it back on its wheels again. As I kicked open the driver’s door, the A pillar collapsed and I realised that it would take more than simply turning it back over to make it drivable again.
It was wedged obliquely between the high muddy banks flanking a single track road, surrounded by fields and woodland so it took a flat bed with a crane to free the wreck, lift it above the hedgerows and reopen the road.
For these reasons, I want this XR2, to remind me of those first few months after I passed my test and how liberating my first car was in my teenage years. Have you got one in white please?

Edited by chirurgus on Thursday 23 May 11:58

J4CKO

41,826 posts

202 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Firebobby said:
Why would you? Back in the day they were, course, noisy, slow, and rotted like a pear in an abandoned orchard! Today they're good only for those who own a pair of the most rose tinted of glasses. Move on please.
Nostalgia, memories ?

Objectively it will be crap, but it looks great and will still be noisy, course, slow but fun.

And it looks great.

My memories are mainly around valeting one for a lady locally, the lovely Fiona, I was smitten with the car, but also her, she was a stunner but I only ever got to bath the car being a spotty herbert of about 15.

Drove a coupel of these and they were fun, same engine as my 1969 Capri that I had as my first car, so the engine was quite old even then, the MK2 was a bit better to drive I remember, used to work for a car dealers so we got loads of them through, they were typically showing some rust after 5 years.

Chicken Chaser

7,910 posts

226 months

Thursday 23rd May
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I saw someone learning to drive in one of these last week, couldn't quite believe it.

86wasagoodyear

442 posts

98 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Except for that stupid chrome drainpipe exhaust, it's very pretty & will certainly get snapped up by someone. But we all know it's more of an ornament than a genuine B-road funfest.

MCBrowncoat

912 posts

148 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Firebobby said:
Why would you? Back in the day they were, course, noisy, slow, and rotted like a pear in an abandoned orchard! Today they're good only for those who own a pair of the most rose tinted of glasses. Move on please.
By saying only good for those with rose tinted glasses, I think you just answered your own question

nismo48

3,886 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Fair play to the guys restorative efforts.
It's a forty year old Mk1 Fiesta with a few choice mods and will probably be OK as a high days and low days thing.
£20k is a bit optimistic but auctions are unpredictable.

AmyRichardson

1,177 posts

44 months

Thursday 23rd May
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~120hp and <800kg - that's enough to entertain yourself; especially if the new brakes and shocks make a meaningful contribution.

It's not my thing, but if you had a Mk1/2 in your youth and fancied a no-effort, totally clean example with a bit of extra go, then this would be a nice way to indulge yourself.

Horsebox Man

95 posts

18 months

Thursday 23rd May
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J4CKO said:
Firebobby said:
Why would you? Back in the day they were, course, noisy, slow, and rotted like a pear in an abandoned orchard! Today they're good only for those who own a pair of the most rose tinted of glasses. Move on please.
Nostalgia, memories ?

Objectively it will be crap, but it looks great and will still be noisy, course, slow but fun.

And it looks great.

My memories are mainly around valeting one for a lady locally, the lovely Fiona, I was smitten with the car, but also her, she was a stunner but I only ever got to bath the car being a spotty herbert of about 15.

Drove a coupel of these and they were fun, same engine as my 1969 Capri that I had as my first car, so the engine was quite old even then, the MK2 was a bit better to drive I remember, used to work for a car dealers so we got loads of them through, they were typically showing some rust after 5 years.
or even coarse smile

West17

197 posts

163 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Some memories there.

I had two of these back in the day, one black the same as this and one in red. Both got written off, not by me but after I’d sold them on.

Not sure about buying this for nostalgic reasons though. I’d also want to be nineteen again, not a care in the world, shoving a mix tape into the player and heading out to meet my friends/pick up a girlfriend. Quiet roads and not a speed camera or 20 mph limit to be seen.

Thinking the reality might be rather different!

Mysstree

476 posts

48 months

Thursday 23rd May
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For the guide price you could get a really nice ST-3 which will be better in every way.
Now take the ST-3 running gear and stick it in this as a Q car would be great.
This should have been a restomod not restoration.

TEKNOPUG

19,056 posts

207 months

Thursday 23rd May
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AmyRichardson said:
~120hp and <800kg - that's enough to entertain yourself; especially if the new brakes and shocks make a meaningful contribution.

It's not my thing, but if you had a Mk1/2 in your youth and fancied a no-effort, totally clean example with a bit of extra go, then this would be a nice way to indulge yourself.
These had ~90bhp when stock. I doubt that increasing the capacity by 4%, gasflowing the head and fitting a different cam is going to yield a 30% increase in power. It might make 100bhp now...

John.Taylor

56 posts

182 months

Thursday 23rd May
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My first car was a 1981 Mk1 Fiesta 1.1L on which I rebuild the engine, installed cut down XR3 springs and welded on a Toyota Supra back box - great times. I swapped it after a year for an A-Reg Stratos Silver XR2 which I kept totally standard as it was such a good drive on the narrow country lanes around where I lived. It wasn't fast by todays standards, but went down the road really well and didn't try to kill me unlike the 205Gti which followed it.

My daughter is learning to drive and I've bought her a Mk7 Fiesta 1.4 Zetec which I'm quite fond of as it reminds me of the XR2 in the way it drives - I've worked out the XR2 had a 10% better power to weight ratio (83bhp/800kg v 94bhp/1041kg) so should still drive quite sweetly in my opinion - no Golf R but plenty of fun.

BenS94

2,049 posts

26 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Love a MK1. STUNNING car.

Pablo16v

2,118 posts

199 months

Thursday 23rd May
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It's a no from me. A pal bought one back in 1989 when I had a a 1981 Mk1 Golf GTi 1.6, and my Golf ran rings around it. It was wheezy and slow, plus rust had already started to take a hold, so even though this one has been breathed on a bit it is nowhere near enough of a change to make me want to buy it.

WPA

9,094 posts

116 months

Thursday 23rd May
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I always preferred the Supersport


ThingsBehindTheSun

374 posts

33 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Firebobby said:
Why would you? Back in the day they were, course, noisy, slow, and rotted like a pear in an abandoned orchard! Today they're good only for those who own a pair of the most rose tinted of glasses. Move on please.
I totally agree and I don't get it either. I had a Fiat Uno Turbo back in the day and I think that was the best car I have ever owned. I suspect it is more to do with the fact that I was 22 at the time, used to go out in it with all my mates in it and it was in that short window of being an adult before real adult life and responsibilities kicked in.

I saw one recently for £17K and if I had the money to waste on an ornament would have been sitting in my garage. Part of me would love to go for a drive in it listening to Britpop reliving my youth, part of me knows it would have been a massive disappointment and ruined my memories.

Nostalgia and wanting to be 21 again is the only thing that makes these cars worth money, as a car they were rubbish when most of us owned them second hand and feel utterly ancient and horrible to drive now.


Olivera

7,291 posts

241 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Chris Harris drove an XR2 like this in a recent Collecting Cars vid - he absolutely raved about, more so than some very fast new cars he's driven.