Put all gays behind electric fences, till they die out...

[joe_90]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

Watch her brain start to fall to bits as logic attempt to battle the faith.

[12gauge]

Funny videos from the religious folks on there. One i saw a week or so ago who said that if people are 'born' gay we should encourage them to come out, as they wont breed naturally like they were 'forced' to in order to keep their sexuality secret for the last several thousand years. Without this, supposedly gays will die out as they never have to 'pretend' to be straight.

I guess if you believe being gay is inherited, that makes sense. Sort of.

[AndrewW-G]

Sounds like the same sort of mental illness, as the people at Westborough baptist church have . . . . . . electric shock therapy all round

[JonRB]

Fark mentioned this on Monday with the following comment:
"Christian" pastor calls for gays to be imprisoned in an electrified pen until they die.
A Taliban spokesman commented: "Seriously? Don't you think that's a bit over-the-top?"

Just about sums it up for me.

[12gauge]

AndrewW-G said:

Sounds like the same sort of mental illness, as the people at Westborough baptist church have . . . . . . electric shock therapy all round

I suppose it depends if you believe it is an illness and if it can be 'cured'. Zeitgeist Moving Forward puts a plausible case that so called 'nature' complexities are in fact the fault the result of 'nurture' - the 2 are not as seperate and distinct as we are led to believe. That is to say, environment changes your genetic makeup. If there is a 'gay gene' may be activated/mutated by the lifestyle the individual is subjected to.

11.00 on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w

[AndrewW-G]

12gauge said:

I suppose it depends if you believe it is an illness and if it can be 'cured'.

Sorry, think there may be some confusions . . . . . .it is the religious loons who have a mental illness and need therapy, not the GLBT's, who on the whole, get on with their lives and don't make daft demands of others

[Caulkhead]

'til they die out, not till.

[TheHeretic]

It is amazing how often people who do not hold the same beliefs take things out of context. This is a perfect example. Whilst the pastor said they should be put behind an electric fence until they Ll die, he didn't actually mean it. What he means was... Er... Ahem... It is wrong... Erm...

The same old claptrap by the fundamentals and as usual they cannot seem to rap fathom, or explain why they think these things apart from it being in the book.

Pathetic.

[Derek Smith]

joe_90 said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

Watch her brain start to fall to bits as logic attempt to battle the faith.

Or you could drop them into bottomless pits.

Where did they find this woman? Somewhere well away from books I would assume. She's a classic. The interviewer seemed bored because it was so easy to confuse her.

On a bright point: if she gets Alzheimers, nether she nor anyone else would notice.

[TheHeretic]

Derek Smith said:

Or you could drop them into bottomless pits.

Where did they find this woman? Somewhere well away from books I would assume. She's a classic. The interviewer seemed bored because it was so easy to confuse her.

On a bright point: if she gets Alzheimers, nether she nor anyone else would notice.

Reminds me of Crazy Tracey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFK0n4CgN1Q

[PugwasHDJ80]

12gauge said:

I suppose it depends if you believe it is an illness and if it can be 'cured'. Zeitgeist Moving Forward puts a plausible case that so called 'nature' complexities are in fact the fault the result of 'nurture' - the 2 are not as seperate and distinct as we are led to believe. That is to say, environment changes your genetic makeup. If there is a 'gay gene' may be activated/mutated by the lifestyle the individual is subjected to.

11.00 on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w

is this a joke?

the enviroment has been proven NOT to effect an individuals genetic make-up. The only time the enviroment has an effect on the genetics of a population is over a relatively long time frame through "selection of the fittest". Randomising of the gene make-up can only occur under chiasmata.

[Jasandjules]

Could we not put mentalist religious nutcases in a prison until they die out?

[JonRB]

Jasandjules said:

Could we not put mentalist religious nutcases in a prison until they die out?

Trouble is that, unlike homosexuality, religion *is* something you can catch. It's a viral idea; a nam-shub.

[anonymous-user]

PugwasHDJ80 said:

12gauge said:

I suppose it depends if you believe it is an illness and if it can be 'cured'. Zeitgeist Moving Forward puts a plausible case that so called 'nature' complexities are in fact the fault the result of 'nurture' - the 2 are not as seperate and distinct as we are led to believe. That is to say, environment changes your genetic makeup. If there is a 'gay gene' may be activated/mutated by the lifestyle the individual is subjected to.

11.00 on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w

is this a joke?

the enviroment has been proven NOT to effect an individuals genetic make-up. The only time the enviroment has an effect on the genetics of a population is over a relatively long time frame through "selection of the fittest". Randomising of the gene make-up can only occur under chiasmata.

I find it interesting that we only aver talk about certain absolutes in relation to gay men/women. There are many bi-sexual people in the world who often are forgotten or not recognised in the "gay v straight" argument.

In many cases humans have sex for pleasure....we like it...and we choose who we have with, but I don't believe we "control" which gender we are attracted to. Some people are 100% straight, some 100% gay, but there's also a huge middle ground where men and women have sex with both genders, which gives rise to the question of "how"??

If there is a gay gene then is there a straight one? Is there a bi-sexual gene? Or if you have straight and gay genes then are you bi??

In reality there is no "gay gene" at all its a claptrap term made up by those that think gayness can be cured, like its some form of disease...there is one male chromosome, the "X" chromosome, and some differences in the billions of pieces of information the chromosomes carry can make the difference between gay and straight.

There are studies that conclude there are other subtle differences in the female defining "Y" chromosome, others point to differences in certain chemical balances within the brains of straight and gay and that the size and operation of certain areas of the brain also differ. But as all these reports show, there is not one definite reason (atm) why one person gay and his brother is straight.

But causality due to nurture really is a pretty dead end. Homosexuality has been in the natural world long before the Christian God was created and in animals that have no idea what "homosexuality" means, have access to a bible or seen youtube. The difference between us and the animals is that they don't see it as abnormal, marginalise it, try and find the reasons for it or try to cure it, they just get along living their own lives. Shame many humans cant.

The irony of this is that upto very recently, it took straight couples to make gay babies, so they only have themselves to blame!!



*edited for some pretty poor grammar.

Edited by djstevec on Friday 25th May 17:05

[rohrl]

What is it about the very religious that makes them obsessive about the subject of homosexuality? Half the time they're abusing choirboys or doing rent-boys themselves and the other half thinking up new and inventive slogans to justify their homophobia.

[JonRB]

djstevec said:

I find it interesting that we only aver talk about certain absolutes in relation to gay men/women. There are many bi-sexual people in the world who often are forgotten or not recognised in the "gay v straight" argument.

In many cases humans have sex for pleasure....we like it...and we choose who we have with, but I don't believe we "control" which gender we are attracted to. Some people are 100% straight, some 100% gay, but there's also a huge middle ground where men and women have sex with both genders, which gives rise to the question of "how"??

If there is a gay gene then is there a straight one? Is there a bi-sexual gene? Or if you have straight and gay genes then are you bi??

Indeed. I have long believed that sexuality is a scale or slider, with "straight" at one end and "gay" at the other, and despite the protestations of many, very few people are right on the stoppers of either end.

Somewhat more controversially, I'd say the same for gender identity too.

[JonRB]

Gotta love George Takei

[TheHeretic]

Classic. Religious person in not knowing a fking thing about their religion shocker.

[Monty Zoomer]

djstevec said:

...there is one male chromosome, the "X" chromosome, and some differences in the billions of pieces of information the chromosomes carry can make the difference between gay and straight.

There are studies that conclude there are other subtle differences in the female defining "Y" chromosome,

Doctor, doctor you are wrong.

"Males have one Y chromosome and one X chromosome, while females have two X chromosomes. In mammals, the Y chromosome contains a gene, SRY, which triggers embryonic development as a male. The Y chromosomes of humans and other mammals also contain other genes needed for normal sperm production."

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_chromosome

[anonymous-user]

Monty Zoomer said:

Doctor, doctor you are wrong.

"Males have one Y chromosome and one X chromosome, while females have two X chromosomes. In mammals, the Y chromosome contains a gene, SRY, which triggers embryonic development as a male. The Y chromosomes of humans and other mammals also contain other genes needed for normal sperm production."

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_chromosome

X-Y, easy to forget, my uni days were a LONG time ago!!! Financial services doesnt have much call for it these days ;-)

Do remember t-shorts with "X28 - thanks for the genes mom" in years gone by