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We've had a mk4 Golf TDI in our family since 2003. It's a 1998 car, now with over 150k on the clock and going very well. Routinely serviced with consumables replaced when required. Beyond that, I've replaced both front wings as they rusted. Cost £70 from ebay. It's had some suspension bits and pieces, but is still on the original clutch/flywheel and returning 50+ mpg. Cracking little car. 
DJRC said:
W00DY said:
Quite possibly the most ill-proportioned motor car ever made. The only way that is cool is if you are a prius owner and thats your weekend motor. Otherwise it just isnt.
Gruber said:
That sums it up pretty well for me.
I've had a look at a few over recent weeks. The ones that look and feel "right" have had frightening amounts of money, time and effort spent resolving bork. And the rest are unloved dogs.
The interiors seem to show their age very badly. The alloys seem unusually susceptible to corosion. And electrical components seem to take their inspiration from Lucas. You get the real sense that VAG lost their way, building a car that looked the part but fell woefully short of the "if only everything in life was as reliable..." mantra.
Rather get the SEAT of the same era, better looking, better spec, probably cheaper and oddly enough better put together. The early 2000's saw major labor problems for VW in South Africa, where a good number of the right hand drive MKIVs were produced, hence the interesting and variable build quality.I've had a look at a few over recent weeks. The ones that look and feel "right" have had frightening amounts of money, time and effort spent resolving bork. And the rest are unloved dogs.
The interiors seem to show their age very badly. The alloys seem unusually susceptible to corosion. And electrical components seem to take their inspiration from Lucas. You get the real sense that VAG lost their way, building a car that looked the part but fell woefully short of the "if only everything in life was as reliable..." mantra.
Another option is the SKODA 130 TDI or VRS, again cheaper and probably better put together than the VW.
Edited by Traveller on Friday 10th August 08:37
If someone is feeling brave, there is an '03' 2L GTI that's been sat At work since aug/sept last year. Apparently engine light is on, they guy replaced the car with a mk5 golf and it hasn't turned a wheel since. I imagine it'll be cheap. Very cheap.
Can ask if anyone wants?
Oh and also going shortly is a 35k mile 106 Quicksilver on a W. Guy wants £1200
Can ask if anyone wants?
Oh and also going shortly is a 35k mile 106 Quicksilver on a W. Guy wants £1200
DJRC said:
W00DY said:
Quite possibly the most ill-proportioned motor car ever made. The only way that is cool is if you are a prius owner and thats your weekend motor. Otherwise it just isnt.
It is in the top 5 best proportioned 4-seater sports cars ever to have left Italy and the fact that many don't see it, makes it even cooler.
The Prius isn't uncool because it looks hideous (it doesn't), it's because it's a car designed for and owned by f
king morons.W00DY said:
It is in the top 5 best proportioned 4-seater sports cars ever to have left Italy and the fact that many don't see it, makes it even cooler.
The Prius isn't uncool because it looks hideous (it doesn't), it's because it's a car designed for and owned by f
king morons.
L100NYY said:
I do believe Deej is talking down the values Woody
Oh, how silly of me.Anyway,
http://pistonheads.com/sales/4049891.htm
I want this very, very badly.
Gruber said:
That sums it up pretty well for me.
I've had a look at a few over recent weeks. The ones that look and feel "right" have had frightening amounts of money, time and effort spent resolving bork. And the rest are unloved dogs.
The interiors seem to show their age very badly. The alloys seem unusually susceptible to corosion. And electrical components seem to take their inspiration from Lucas. You get the real sense that VAG lost their way, building a car that looked the part but fell woefully short of the "if only everything in life was as reliable..." mantra.
Really?I've had a look at a few over recent weeks. The ones that look and feel "right" have had frightening amounts of money, time and effort spent resolving bork. And the rest are unloved dogs.
The interiors seem to show their age very badly. The alloys seem unusually susceptible to corosion. And electrical components seem to take their inspiration from Lucas. You get the real sense that VAG lost their way, building a car that looked the part but fell woefully short of the "if only everything in life was as reliable..." mantra.
Edited by Gruber on Friday 10th August 07:44
I guess like any cheap hatchback, there will be a fair selection of dogs owned by people who neither know, nor care.
However, a quick look at the bottom end of the MKIV market reveals an 'impressive' amount of high milers (i.e. 150k+) which appear to still have some life left in them.
Granted, some of the elctrics can be dodgy, but otherwise they're very well built cars IME. And the (<150bhp) 1.9TDI is quite bomb proof.
Sorting through some of my 'archive' last night (we recently moved house) uncovered this;
It's a quite incredible issue with articles on;
BX GTI 16v
Renault 21 Turbo
F40 as 'the next legend'
E30 M3, E28 M5 and M1
Launch of E32 750i
Clarkson at 'Ring Kamp in an E30 M3
Pug 309 GTI v Mk2 Jetta GTI 16v v Escort RS Turbo
If anyone wants a copy i've got a .pdf of the key articles and can email it round.
It's a quite incredible issue with articles on;
BX GTI 16v
Renault 21 Turbo
F40 as 'the next legend'
E30 M3, E28 M5 and M1
Launch of E32 750i
Clarkson at 'Ring Kamp in an E30 M3
Pug 309 GTI v Mk2 Jetta GTI 16v v Escort RS Turbo
If anyone wants a copy i've got a .pdf of the key articles and can email it round.
L100NYY said:
Not really my cup of tea Woody but I can see the appeal, certainly one of the better looking Supra's i have seen.
A UK Turbo model that is standard holds great appeal. As does a Standard R33 GTRSadly, neither exist anymore
Eta: it would appear I'm wrong, but with a £15k premium.
http://pistonheads.com/sales/4133288.htm
Edited by S3_Graham on Friday 10th August 09:45
L100NYY said:
Not really my cup of tea Woody but I can see the appeal, certainly one of the better looking Supra's i have seen.
I think part of the appeal is that for every one nice one there are 30 horrific examples and I maintain that the basic shape is very well resolved, especially without the rear wing. And the power. That's quite appealing too.
bmthnick1981 said:
Sorting through some of my 'archive' last night (we recently moved house) uncovered this;
It's a quite incredible issue with articles on;
BX GTI 16v
Renault 21 Turbo
F40 as 'the next legend'
E30 M3, E28 M5 and M1
Launch of E32 750i
Clarkson at 'Ring Kamp in an E30 M3
Pug 309 GTI v Mk2 Jetta GTI 16v v Escort RS Turbo
If anyone wants a copy i've got a .pdf of the key articles and can email it round.
Is that "I've never been to the 'Ring before" Clarkson, as seen driving an oil burning Jag?It's a quite incredible issue with articles on;
BX GTI 16v
Renault 21 Turbo
F40 as 'the next legend'
E30 M3, E28 M5 and M1
Launch of E32 750i
Clarkson at 'Ring Kamp in an E30 M3
Pug 309 GTI v Mk2 Jetta GTI 16v v Escort RS Turbo
If anyone wants a copy i've got a .pdf of the key articles and can email it round.
W00DY said:
L100NYY said:
Not really my cup of tea Woody but I can see the appeal, certainly one of the better looking Supra's i have seen.
I think part of the appeal is that for every one nice one there are 30 horrific examples and I maintain that the basic shape is very well resolved, especially without the rear wing. And the power. That's quite appealing too.
http://www.paulbrowncars.co.uk/car_GTR-R33-Twin-Tu...
bmthnick1981 said:
Sorting through some of my 'archive' last night (we recently moved house) uncovered this;
It's a quite incredible issue with articles on;
BX GTI 16v
Renault 21 Turbo
F40 as 'the next legend'
E30 M3, E28 M5 and M1
Launch of E32 750i
Clarkson at 'Ring Kamp in an E30 M3
Pug 309 GTI v Mk2 Jetta GTI 16v v Escort RS Turbo
If anyone wants a copy i've got a .pdf of the key articles and can email it round.
I remember buying the first issue of that with the white 80q on It's a quite incredible issue with articles on;
BX GTI 16v
Renault 21 Turbo
F40 as 'the next legend'
E30 M3, E28 M5 and M1
Launch of E32 750i
Clarkson at 'Ring Kamp in an E30 M3
Pug 309 GTI v Mk2 Jetta GTI 16v v Escort RS Turbo
If anyone wants a copy i've got a .pdf of the key articles and can email it round.
Things got even better 6 months after when they brought out Fast Lane as well
S3_Graham said:
Been there. Done that. Awesome. Wife hated it. Hence B10 V8. My advice. Buy a cheap standard one (£6k) and spend £5k making it terrifyingly fast.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff