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jeff666

2,447 posts

217 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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spyderman8 said:
bikerstu said:
Any one booked an Open Track event?
www.opentrack.co.uk
Yes - several times. Dave is a very nice bloke - never had any problems on his days.
I was at one of his days last month at Goodwood, he did come across as a decent bloke, the day was crap but that was down to the Goodwood staff and not Opentrack.

It was advertised as an open pit lane, however the staff their would only let 6 cars at a time out on the track, as i understand it this was more to do with the ongoing noise issues.

Lots of queuing and of course because track time was limited people were staying out as long as possible, they were actually black flagging people to get them to come in, the guys i went with and lots of other people i spoke to were not keen to return to Goodwood.



spyderman8

1,748 posts

182 months

Saturday 18th May 2013
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I don't think Dave is keen to return to Goodwood either!

Richieuk2002

60 posts

158 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Maritime RS said:
Someone earlier in this thread asked for a photo of Marcus. Here's one taken in 2011. Apparently, the person who took this was actually asked not to! Hence the look on his face!

The uk,s number one ahole.cant see him showing up at any car or motorcycle events for a long time

Richieuk2002

60 posts

158 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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It's No limits for me now, been on loads with them.

jonnyleroux

1,511 posts

286 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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jeff666 said:
I was at one of his days last month at Goodwood, he did come across as a decent bloke, the day was crap but that was down to the Goodwood staff and not Opentrack.

It was advertised as an open pit lane, however the staff their would only let 6 cars at a time out on the track, as i understand it this was more to do with the ongoing noise issues.

Lots of queuing and of course because track time was limited people were staying out as long as possible, they were actually black flagging people to get them to come in, the guys i went with and lots of other people i spoke to were not keen to return to Goodwood.

How is the TDO taking too many bookings for the circuit limit the circuits fault? Open pit lane at goodwood is impossible unless you're paying a grand a head as you're always limited to either 5 cars (105dB) or 10 cars (98dB) on track.

I'm not suggesting this doesn't make Dave a nice guy, but it's entirely unfair to blame the circuit in this instance.

Jonny
BaT


agtlaw

7,345 posts

232 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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Richieuk2002 said:
The uk,s number one ahole.cant see him showing up at any car or motorcycle events for a long time
it looks like he'd be good at tarmacing driveways.

jeff666

2,447 posts

217 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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jonnyleroux said:
jeff666 said:
I was at one of his days last month at Goodwood, he did come across as a decent bloke, the day was crap but that was down to the Goodwood staff and not Opentrack.

It was advertised as an open pit lane, however the staff their would only let 6 cars at a time out on the track, as i understand it this was more to do with the ongoing noise issues.

Lots of queuing and of course because track time was limited people were staying out as long as possible, they were actually black flagging people to get them to come in, the guys i went with and lots of other people i spoke to were not keen to return to Goodwood.

How is the TDO taking too many bookings for the circuit limit the circuits fault? Open pit lane at goodwood is impossible unless you're paying a grand a head as you're always limited to either 5 cars (105dB) or 10 cars (98dB) on track.

I'm not suggesting this doesn't make Dave a nice guy, but it's entirely unfair to blame the circuit in this instance.

Jonny
BaT
I think it is fair to blame the circuit actually, the number of cars was very low, 20 something from memory, their was also a balls up regarding the DB's that the day was advertised at.

The day started as a limited session of six cars at any one time on track, it was then going to become an open pit lane (as advertised) later on in the day, this did not happen.

From what i gathered talking to some of the other guys there, Dave felt very let down by the circuit and in the words of one chap "wont ever do another trackday with them again "

enduroboy

76 posts

223 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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jonnyleroux said:
How is the TDO taking too many bookings for the circuit limit the circuits fault? Open pit lane at goodwood is impossible unless you're paying a grand a head as you're always limited to either 5 cars (105dB) or 10 cars (98dB) on track.

I'm not suggesting this doesn't make Dave a nice guy, but it's entirely unfair to blame the circuit in this instance.

Jonny
BaT
Were you there????


If not, I really don't think that you can comment on the organisation of a day that you don't know about personally.



You are well known TDO, please don't just criticise one of your rivals.

daz1001

49 posts

258 months

Sunday 19th May 2013
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enduroboy said:
jonnyleroux said:
How is the TDO taking too many bookings for the circuit limit the circuits fault? Open pit lane at goodwood is impossible unless you're paying a grand a head as you're always limited to either 5 cars (105dB) or 10 cars (98dB) on track.

I'm not suggesting this doesn't make Dave a nice guy, but it's entirely unfair to blame the circuit in this instance.

Jonny
BaT
Were you there????


If not, I really don't think that you can comment on the organisation of a day that you don't know about personally.



You are well known TDO, please don't just criticise one of your rivals.
I'm sure Goodwood would've notified the organiser of their long-established noise limits! Seems like BAT are aware of them!

Ells

8 posts

158 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Has everybody received letters from Jamesons?

gtdc

4,259 posts

309 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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enduroboy said:
jonnyleroux said:
How is the TDO taking too many bookings for the circuit limit the circuits fault? Open pit lane at goodwood is impossible unless you're paying a grand a head as you're always limited to either 5 cars (105dB) or 10 cars (98dB) on track.

I'm not suggesting this doesn't make Dave a nice guy, but it's entirely unfair to blame the circuit in this instance.

Jonny
BaT
Were you there????


If not, I really don't think that you can comment on the organisation of a day that you don't know about personally.


You are well known TDO, please don't just criticise one of your rivals.
Erm, you don't need to be there. You sign one of 2 contracts. A 105dB day on which 10 cars may go on track at once or a 98dB day on which 5 cars may go on track at once. You then decide how many cars to book on to your event. There is no ambiguity about the numbers just in deciding how many to take. Unfair to blame Goodwood for it - it's a completely black and white situation.


Silent1

19,762 posts

261 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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gtdc said:
Erm, you don't need to be there. You sign one of 2 contracts. A 105dB day on which 10 cars may go on track at once or a 98dB day on which 5 cars may go on track at once. You then decide how many cars to book on to your event. There is no ambiguity about the numbers just in deciding how many to take. Unfair to blame Goodwood for it - it's a completely black and white situation.
I'm impressed Goodwood has a magic sound barrier, so if I take 50 can I have a 140dB day? hehe

chris7676

2,685 posts

246 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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jeff666 said:
I think it is fair to blame the circuit actually, the number of cars was very low, 20 something from memory, their was also a balls up regarding the DB's that the day was advertised at.

The day started as a limited session of six cars at any one time on track, it was then going to become an open pit lane (as advertised) later on in the day, this did not happen.

From what i gathered talking to some of the other guys there, Dave felt very let down by the circuit and in the words of one chap "wont ever do another trackday with them again "
Do you not understand you were you were given 'easy' lies by the 'easy' track?
The circuit has its restrictions it cannot change, the 'easy' folks didn't bother telling you that ('ad advertised' - and who advertised?)
Btw, I have managed to do a similar day with the same bunch at Goodwood too and funnily it wasn't much better at at Brands Indy with them, what a coincidence wink



tertius

6,914 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Silent1 said:
gtdc said:
Erm, you don't need to be there. You sign one of 2 contracts. A 105dB day on which 10 cars may go on track at once or a 98dB day on which 5 cars may go on track at once. You then decide how many cars to book on to your event. There is no ambiguity about the numbers just in deciding how many to take. Unfair to blame Goodwood for it - it's a completely black and white situation.
I'm impressed Goodwood has a magic sound barrier, so if I take 50 can I have a 140dB day? hehe
Err, more cars means a lower noise limit. If they offered it (which they don't) and you wanted to have 50 cars on track you'd probably need about a 60dB limit (which for the avoidance of doubt is per car).

gtdc

4,259 posts

309 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Silent1 said:
gtdc said:
Erm, you don't need to be there. You sign one of 2 contracts. A 105dB day on which 10 cars may go on track at once or a 98dB day on which 5 cars may go on track at once. You then decide how many cars to book on to your event. There is no ambiguity about the numbers just in deciding how many to take. Unfair to blame Goodwood for it - it's a completely black and white situation.
I'm impressed Goodwood has a magic sound barrier, so if I take 50 can I have a 140dB day? hehe
Sorry - fked that up - other way round - 10 cars/98dB and 5 cars 105 db.

Steve H

7,177 posts

221 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Goodwood monitor the cumulative amount of noise as well as setting a peak limit which is why they like sessions rather than open pit lane, the down time between sessions and increased number of warmup/slowdown laps allow the average volume to drop (they call it emptying the noise bucket).


jeff666

2,447 posts

217 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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chris7676 said:
Do you not understand you were you were given 'easy' lies by the 'easy' track?
The circuit has its restrictions it cannot change, the 'easy' folks didn't bother telling you that ('ad advertised' - and who advertised?)
Btw, I have managed to do a similar day with the same bunch at Goodwood too and funnily it wasn't much better at at Brands Indy with them, what a coincidence wink
So you are saying that the TDO knew about the restrictions but still went ahead and advertised it as an open pit lane ? my feeling is that Dave had felt let down by the circuit, maybe it was his 1st booking with them.

Oh and to clarify it was 27 cars booked, and NO more than 6 at a time on track, it seems to me that whoever had organized it the outcome would have been the same.

Shame as it is a great track, nice and flowing,but for me i will find better tracks to spend my money with.

Silent1

19,762 posts

261 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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tertius said:
Silent1 said:
gtdc said:
Erm, you don't need to be there. You sign one of 2 contracts. A 105dB day on which 10 cars may go on track at once or a 98dB day on which 5 cars may go on track at once. You then decide how many cars to book on to your event. There is no ambiguity about the numbers just in deciding how many to take. Unfair to blame Goodwood for it - it's a completely black and white situation.
I'm impressed Goodwood has a magic sound barrier, so if I take 50 can I have a 140dB day? hehe
Err, more cars means a lower noise limit. If they offered it (which they don't) and you wanted to have 50 cars on track you'd probably need about a 60dB limit (which for the avoidance of doubt is per car).

tertius

6,914 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Silent1 said:
tertius said:
Silent1 said:
gtdc said:
Erm, you don't need to be there. You sign one of 2 contracts. A 105dB day on which 10 cars may go on track at once or a 98dB day on which 5 cars may go on track at once. You then decide how many cars to book on to your event. There is no ambiguity about the numbers just in deciding how many to take. Unfair to blame Goodwood for it - it's a completely black and white situation.
I'm impressed Goodwood has a magic sound barrier, so if I take 50 can I have a 140dB day? hehe
Err, more cars means a lower noise limit. If they offered it (which they don't) and you wanted to have 50 cars on track you'd probably need about a 60dB limit (which for the avoidance of doubt is per car).
Ha! Fair cop. Melindi ... I won't forget ... wink

Juno

4,485 posts

275 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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gtdc said:
Silent1 said:
gtdc said:
Erm, you don't need to be there. You sign one of 2 contracts. A 105dB day on which 10 cars may go on track at once or a 98dB day on which 5 cars may go on track at once. You then decide how many cars to book on to your event. There is no ambiguity about the numbers just in deciding how many to take. Unfair to blame Goodwood for it - it's a completely black and white situation.
I'm impressed Goodwood has a magic sound barrier, so if I take 50 can I have a 140dB day? hehe
Sorry - fked that up - other way round - 10 cars/98dB and 5 cars 105 db.
I have an answer to all the noise issues, the track was there first probably before most people moved in,its a hobby and passion, people bought houses near a race track so guess what? Donnington has Jumbos landing once every minute and I don't care what you say there a dam sight noisier than my Radical. Brands has the M20,M25 and A2 M surrounding it along with the Euro Star thingy!!!

Please can Councils just start telling people to stop moaning and shut the fk up just like they do when you hit one of there un repaired pot holes!

Rant Over FFS!