child minder. Think she is taking the p**s
child minder. Think she is taking the p**s
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hedgefinder

3,418 posts

196 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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the trouble you have here is that with childminders they cant just take on extra work as others who are self employed can, they are regulated by OFSTED as to how many children and what ages they are allowed to care for at any one time. So although they are self employed they do not have the freedom that the majority of self employed people do to take on other work.

NDA

25,229 posts

251 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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firemanSimon said:
Yes. The CM agreed to carry on with the current agreement in place. I however was not at this meeting as I was busy. So it was only the wife and the CM. However I have had a phone conversation with the CM. It did not go well. Few heated words on both sides. Her telling me how hard her job is and how under valued she feels. Then me telling her I would not be held to ransom over her self-employed-employed misgivings. The crux of it is the wife wants to stay with her. I want to get a au pair. Turning into a bit of a saga now
Hmmmm. Not ideal.

I wouldn't want to cast nasturtiums on CM's, but when we had words with ours many years ago we found out that she developed a fairly deep hatred of us, something based on jealousy of where we lived, feeling undervalued etc. apart from many little objects around the house going missing I decided enough was enough. Did we really want some resentful woman in our house with our kids? Er, no. Plus, she was plug ugly.

smile

hedgefinder

3,418 posts

196 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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firemanSimon said:
Yes. The CM agreed to carry on with the current agreement in place. I however was not at this meeting as I was busy. So it was only the wife and the CM. However I have had a phone conversation with the CM. It did not go well. Few heated words on both sides. Her telling me how hard her job is and how under valued she feels. Then me telling her I would not be held to ransom over her self-employed-employed misgivings. The crux of it is the wife wants to stay with her. I want to get a au pair. Turning into a bit of a saga now
please post pictures of au pair candidates to enable us all to assist with your difficult decision..

hedgefinder

3,418 posts

196 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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hedgefinder said:
please post pictures of au pair candidates to enable us all to assist with your difficult decision..
and the wife and CM if you want... just to be fair to all..

uk89camaro

1,399 posts

259 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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NDA said:
Hmmmm. Not ideal.

I wouldn't want to cast nasturtiums on CM's, but when we had words with ours many years ago we found out that she developed a fairly deep hatred of us, something based on jealousy of where we lived, feeling undervalued etc. apart from many little objects around the house going missing I decided enough was enough. Did we really want some resentful woman in our house with our kids? Er, no. Plus, she was plug ugly.

smile
So far away from a childminder it can't be said.

That's a babysitter, or a best a non resident au pair.

They don't have to consider any standards of care whatsoever, other than those you're prepared to pay for.

You made a poor choice of care. Nobody else at fault.


sunoco69

5,274 posts

191 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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hedgefinder said:
hedgefinder said:
please post pictures of au pair candidates to enable us all to assist with your difficult decision..
and the wife and CM if you want... just to be fair to all..
yes we will form a committee

sunoco69

5,274 posts

191 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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firemanSimon said:
Yes. The CM agreed to carry on with the current agreement in place. I however was not at this meeting as I was busy. So it was only the wife and the CM. However I have had a phone conversation with the CM. It did not go well. Few heated words on both sides. Her telling me how hard her job is and how under valued she feels. Then me telling her I would not be held to ransom over her self-employed-employed misgivings. The crux of it is the wife wants to stay with her. I want to get a au pair. Turning into a bit of a saga now
So you know what to do! Let wife keep the CM as long as you get a new car. SIMPLES!

uk89camaro

1,399 posts

259 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Are there not enough other utter shyte threads for you off topic muppets to be carrying on with?


sunoco69

5,274 posts

191 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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uk89camaro said:
Are there not enough other utter shyte threads for you off topic muppets to be carrying on with?
And cue the fun police. banghead

NDA

25,229 posts

251 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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uk89camaro said:
You made a poor choice of care. Nobody else at fault.
Golly, thanks.

It's all clear now.

Phew.

uk89camaro

1,399 posts

259 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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NDA said:
Golly, thanks.

It's all clear now.

Phew.
and so it continues...



firemanSimon

Original Poster:

656 posts

164 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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sunoco69 said:
firemanSimon said:
Yes. The CM agreed to carry on with the current agreement in place. I however was not at this meeting as I was busy. So it was only the wife and the CM. However I have had a phone conversation with the CM. It did not go well. Few heated words on both sides. Her telling me how hard her job is and how under valued she feels. Then me telling her I would not be held to ransom over her self-employed-employed misgivings. The crux of it is the wife wants to stay with her. I want to get a au pair. Turning into a bit of a saga now
So you know what to do! Let wife keep the CM as long as you get a new car. SIMPLES!
OK now this was a almost missed opportunity, good call

sunoco69

5,274 posts

191 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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firemanSimon said:
sunoco69 said:
firemanSimon said:
Yes. The CM agreed to carry on with the current agreement in place. I however was not at this meeting as I was busy. So it was only the wife and the CM. However I have had a phone conversation with the CM. It did not go well. Few heated words on both sides. Her telling me how hard her job is and how under valued she feels. Then me telling her I would not be held to ransom over her self-employed-employed misgivings. The crux of it is the wife wants to stay with her. I want to get a au pair. Turning into a bit of a saga now
So you know what to do! Let wife keep the CM as long as you get a new car. SIMPLES!
OK now this was a almost missed opportunity, good call
You know it makes sense!

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

258 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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FS, not having heard the conversation so Im guessing here, but I would have thought this could have easily been resolved with an adult conversation.
Regardless of employment status, you are the boss and she has told you she feels undervalued and you respond with strong words/anger.
How is that ever going to end well?

firemanSimon

Original Poster:

656 posts

164 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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I pay 13.50ph for the 2 of my kids.(not each,both). I don't care how she Feels. I don't care how my joiner feels when he is fitting doors. I don't care how the painter feels when he is glossing my hall. Just the same as my clients don't want to hear how I'm feeling when I'm working. Set your price and get the fk on with your job. Find that your price is too low, put it up. Stop fking bleating on about how hard your job is. And stop trying to chance your employment status to screw more money out you clients. You ether self-employed or employed. Simple.

sunoco69

5,274 posts

191 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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firemanSimon said:
I pay 13.50ph for the 2 of my kids.(not each,both). I don't care how she Feels. I don't care how my joiner feels when he is fitting doors. I don't care how the painter feels when he is glossing my hall. Just the same as my clients don't want to hear how I'm feeling when I'm working. Set your price and get the fk on with your job. Find that your price is too low, put it up. Stop fking bleating on about how hard your job is. And stop trying to chance your employment status to screw more money out you clients. You ether self-employed or employed. Simple.
I like you. Couldn't agree more. Are you ex Mil by any chance?

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

258 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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That makes sense.
Can't understand why she would feel under valued reading that.

Each to their own but I would want a half decent relationship with someone who I was entrusting my children to. Must be just me but I value my children a bit more highly than some skirting and architraves and thus the well being of their guardians would and does matter to me.

firemanSimon

Original Poster:

656 posts

164 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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sunoco69 said:
firemanSimon said:
I pay 13.50ph for the 2 of my kids.(not each,both). I don't care how she Feels. I don't care how my joiner feels when he is fitting doors. I don't care how the painter feels when he is glossing my hall. Just the same as my clients don't want to hear how I'm feeling when I'm working. Set your price and get the fk on with your job. Find that your price is too low, put it up. Stop fking bleating on about how hard your job is. And stop trying to chance your employment status to screw more money out you clients. You ether self-employed or employed. Simple.
I like you. Couldn't agree more. Are you ex Mil by any chance?
No. But my father was. He instilled into us the proper ethos of work

KingNothing

3,321 posts

179 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Good one on sticking to your guns, and not being taken for a ride.

JQ

6,652 posts

205 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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blindswelledrat said:
That makes sense.
Can't understand why she would feel under valued reading that.

Each to their own but I would want a half decent relationship with someone who I was entrusting my children to. Must be just me but I value my children a bit more highly than some skirting and architraves and thus the well being of their guardians would and does matter to me.
Nope, you're not alone. I've found some of the comments in this thread quite odd.