Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 2
Discussion
AJS- said:
Looks like they got it wrong. Oops
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2256...
Is it really so hard to admit that they don't actually understand very much about climate and can't accurately predict what it will do next?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2256...
Is it really so hard to admit that they don't actually understand very much about climate and can't accurately predict what it will do next?
article said:
But long-term, the expected temperature rises will not alter significantly.
Are they totally and utterly insane? They cannot explain the temperature standstill. Nor do they know how long this present state will last. But, this will have no effect on long term temperature rise.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
AJS- said:
Looks like they got it wrong. Oops
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2256...
Is it really so hard to admit that they don't actually understand very much about climate and can't accurately predict what it will do next?
Comments disabled I see...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2256...
Is it really so hard to admit that they don't actually understand very much about climate and can't accurately predict what it will do next?
I noticed the BBC even managed to bring Climate Change into a Chelsea Flower Show piece this morning interviewing a gardener who, when it was suggested to him that Climate Change would affect his choice of flowers for the Show in future, said "yes we're going to have to make allowances for drought er, or water-logged ground". Clearly he's as confused as the BBC is.
mybrainhurts said:
Blib said:
Are they totally and utterly insane? They cannot explain the temperature standstill. Nor do they know how long this present state will last. But, this will have no effect on long term temperature rise.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Stupider than previously thought....Stupid, stupid, stupid.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22463480
"In a speech to ministers and tropical forest scientists, he said his work on climate change could be "disheartening" but action was needed because the risk of doing nothing was "too great"."
What?!
Note Davey was there to back-up the Regent Retard and fly the green flag. Prats both.
EU Dialling Back Global Warming Policies As The Heat Goes Out Of Global Warming
The European Union, which has spearheaded efforts to curb global warming, is set to adopt a change of focus in response to concerns over costs and the impact on companies in economically depressed Europe. Under the change, the European Union will prioritize the supply of energy at affordable prices over cutting greenhouse gas emissions which impose burdens on industries, in a turnaround of the region’s energy policy, an EU official said Saturday. EU leaders will decide on the shift in energy policy at a meeting Wednesday. The change reflects requests from businesses in the 27-member zone amid the prolonged economic slump triggered by the eurozone sovereign debt crisis, the official said.
Kyodo News International, 18 May 2013
Meanwhile the Russian solar physicist Abdussamatov has a peper in the Journal of Geology and Geosciences concerning the solar downturn and a new little ice age if rumours I hear are correct.
The European Union, which has spearheaded efforts to curb global warming, is set to adopt a change of focus in response to concerns over costs and the impact on companies in economically depressed Europe. Under the change, the European Union will prioritize the supply of energy at affordable prices over cutting greenhouse gas emissions which impose burdens on industries, in a turnaround of the region’s energy policy, an EU official said Saturday. EU leaders will decide on the shift in energy policy at a meeting Wednesday. The change reflects requests from businesses in the 27-member zone amid the prolonged economic slump triggered by the eurozone sovereign debt crisis, the official said.
Kyodo News International, 18 May 2013
Meanwhile the Russian solar physicist Abdussamatov has a peper in the Journal of Geology and Geosciences concerning the solar downturn and a new little ice age if rumours I hear are correct.
_Batty_ said:
No warming since 1998 they say.
Can I have my 'green tax' money back please?
Also love the way that the temperatures will 'rise more slowly' rather than just stay as they are or perhaps drop...
AnonSpoilSport said:
mybrainhurts said:
Blib said:
Are they totally and utterly insane? They cannot explain the temperature standstill. Nor do they know how long this present state will last. But, this will have no effect on long term temperature rise.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Stupider than previously thought....Stupid, stupid, stupid.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22463480
"In a speech to ministers and tropical forest scientists, he said his work on climate change could be "disheartening" but action was needed because the risk of doing nothing was "too great"."
What?!
Note Davey was there to back-up the Regent Retard and fly the green flag. Prats both.
USA heat-related deaths predicted to go up when the trend is still down.
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Article said:
Senior author Patrick Kinney, an environmental scientist at the Mailman School and Earth Institute faculty member, pointed out several uncertainties in the study. For instance, he said, things could be made better or worse by demographic trends, and how well New York adapts its infrastructure and policies to a warmer world.
A warmer world, aye. Warmer cities are a different matter.http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2013/5/21/h...
Hysterical Hansen doing a Billy Graham and filling his pockets. Quelle surprise...
Hysterical Hansen doing a Billy Graham and filling his pockets. Quelle surprise...
Ed Davey talking crap again
Meanwhile in the EU...
Article said:
Mr Davey accused Ukip of choosing to ignore the "pretty overwhelming" scientific evidence for man-made climate change in favour of "easy answers".
Describing the arguments behind climate change scepticism as "nonsense", Mr Davey added: "I'm concerned about the general public who are getting conflicting messages and understandably they are not sure who is telling the truth.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/401334/UKIP-s-pop...Describing the arguments behind climate change scepticism as "nonsense", Mr Davey added: "I'm concerned about the general public who are getting conflicting messages and understandably they are not sure who is telling the truth.
Meanwhile in the EU...
The EU said:
The European Union, which has spearheaded efforts to curb global warming, is set to adopt a change of focus in response to concerns over costs and the impact on companies in economically depressed Europe.
Under the change, the European Uniln will prioritize the supply of energy at affordable prices over cutting greenhouse gas emissions which impose burdens on industries, in a turnaround of the region's energy policy, an EU official said Saturday.
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/kyodo-news...Under the change, the European Uniln will prioritize the supply of energy at affordable prices over cutting greenhouse gas emissions which impose burdens on industries, in a turnaround of the region's energy policy, an EU official said Saturday.
Global Warming Policy Foundation Invites Royal Society Fellows For Climate Change Discussion
GWPF, London, 22 May 2013
In response to a suggestion by Sir Paul Nurse, the President of the Royal Society, the Global Warming Policy Foundation has invited five climate scientists and Fellows of the Royal Society to discuss the current state of climate science and its wider implications.
In a letter to Lord Lawson, the GWPF chairman, Sir Paul stated that the Royal Society “would be happy to put the GWPF in touch with people who can offer the Foundation informed scientific advice.”
Sir Paul suggested that the GWPF should contact five of their Fellows: Sir Brian Hoskins; Prof John Mitchell; Prof Tim Palmer; Prof John Shepherd and Prof Eric Wolff.
The GWPF has now invited the five climate scientists to a meeting with a team of members of the GWPF’s Academic Advisory Council and independent scientists and has proposed a two-part agenda:
1. The science of global warming, with special reference to (a) the climate sensitivity to carbon dioxide and (b) the extent of natural variability;
2. The conduct and professional standards of those involved in the relevant scientific inquiry and official advisory process.
“I hope the Fellows of the Royal Society will be happy to meet with our team of scientists so that something positive can come out of Sir Paul’s recommendation,” said Dr Benny Peiser, the Director of the GWPF.
GWPF, London, 22 May 2013
In response to a suggestion by Sir Paul Nurse, the President of the Royal Society, the Global Warming Policy Foundation has invited five climate scientists and Fellows of the Royal Society to discuss the current state of climate science and its wider implications.
In a letter to Lord Lawson, the GWPF chairman, Sir Paul stated that the Royal Society “would be happy to put the GWPF in touch with people who can offer the Foundation informed scientific advice.”
Sir Paul suggested that the GWPF should contact five of their Fellows: Sir Brian Hoskins; Prof John Mitchell; Prof Tim Palmer; Prof John Shepherd and Prof Eric Wolff.
The GWPF has now invited the five climate scientists to a meeting with a team of members of the GWPF’s Academic Advisory Council and independent scientists and has proposed a two-part agenda:
1. The science of global warming, with special reference to (a) the climate sensitivity to carbon dioxide and (b) the extent of natural variability;
2. The conduct and professional standards of those involved in the relevant scientific inquiry and official advisory process.
“I hope the Fellows of the Royal Society will be happy to meet with our team of scientists so that something positive can come out of Sir Paul’s recommendation,” said Dr Benny Peiser, the Director of the GWPF.
jurbie said:
Ed Davey talking crap again
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/401334/UKIP-s-pop...
Some brilliant comments against that Express article, very few of which would provide much cheer for the Government. Excellent!http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/401334/UKIP-s-pop...
jurbie said:
Ed Davey talking crap again
"I want Britain to play a leading role as a persuader for change globally."The damage that the anti-science people place to that is that the UK's voice globally will be weakened."
As we've noted before, this self-important, self-aggrandising idiot (and his ilk) are knowingly damaging Britain's interets - and those of the public/electorate they are appointed to represent - to make a meaningless but expensive grand show on the world stage. What a tit. Wonder where he'll end up, career wise once kicked out in 2015? Suggestions on a green postcard...
Meanwhile in, potentially, good news:
"Mr Davey made his comments less than a week after David Cameron appointed George Eustice, a prominent opponent of onshore wind farms and a former Ukip party member, as his new adviser on energy and climate change issues."
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