Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 2

[Andy Zarse]

turbobloke said:

Global Warming Policy Foundation Invites Royal Society Fellows For Climate Change Discussion

GWPF, London, 22 May 2013

In response to a suggestion by Sir Paul Nurse, the President of the Royal Society, the Global Warming Policy Foundation has invited five climate scientists and Fellows of the Royal Society to discuss the current state of climate science and its wider implications.

In a letter to Lord Lawson, the GWPF chairman, Sir Paul stated that the Royal Society “would be happy to put the GWPF in touch with people who can offer the Foundation informed scientific advice.”

Sir Paul suggested that the GWPF should contact five of their Fellows: Sir Brian Hoskins; Prof John Mitchell; Prof Tim Palmer; Prof John Shepherd and Prof Eric Wolff.

The GWPF has now invited the five climate scientists to a meeting with a team of members of the GWPF’s Academic Advisory Council and independent scientists and has proposed a two-part agenda:

1. The science of global warming, with special reference to (a) the climate sensitivity to carbon dioxide and (b) the extent of natural variability;

2. The conduct and professional standards of those involved in the relevant scientific inquiry and official advisory process.

“I hope the Fellows of the Royal Society will be happy to meet with our team of scientists so that something positive can come out of Sir Paul’s recommendation,” said Dr Benny Peiser, the Director of the GWPF.

Fabulous. I would pay good money to watch that. Is it to be a public meeting or held in camera?

Still, you can bet your arse Ed Davey won't be in attendence! Anyway, he's too thick to understand it.

[turbobloke]

I don't think it's an open meeting but haven't read details on that aspect.

On another hot topic:

"The Oklahoma tornado provides a good example of the unpredictable death toll that disasters can inflict. Before it flattened Plaza Towers Elementary, the tornado also tore through Briarwood Elementary and — though the roof collapsed — everyone at Briarwood appears to have survived. Both schools lacked tornado safe rooms, and at both, students initially were sent to the halls before some teachers squeezed them into seemingly safer places such as closets and bathrooms."

In that location, with previous, and no safe room - it wasn't MMUGW in action (which we know anyway) but misplaced priorities that killed those children. As per this comment from WUWT coverage:

Comment said:

Priorities! Money spent to subsidize electric cars is money that cannot be spent building tornado shelters.

[The Don of Croy]

Just been watching the Beeb news, seems flora and fauna are in dire straits and it,s a wake up call etc etc (this from the RSPB talking head).

Strangely, referring to the BBC website story one finds that the latest survey of surveys covers just 5% of UK species, and nowhere does it apportion blame to AGW. They say it's hard to draw conclusions...but nobody corrects the (much more widely viewed) TV commentators.

[turbobloke]

The Don of Croy said:

Just been watching the Beeb news, seems flora and fauna are in dire straits and it,s a wake up call etc etc (this from the RSPB talking head).

Strangely, referring to the BBC website story one finds that the latest survey of surveys covers just 5% of UK species, and nowhere does it apportion blame to AGW. They say it's hard to draw conclusions...but nobody corrects the (much more widely viewed) TV commentators.

That's the way BBC tossers do it anyway

There's far too much propaganda on the bloody beeb. Hope your screen is still in one piece.

[broadside]

http://www.expatica.com/nl/news/dutch-news/Its-bee...


Fortunately due to global warming we've had a cold spring and it may get worse than previously thought!

[mybrainhurts]

http://euobserver.com/news/120202

Holy gas, Shaleman...

EU wakes up at last, as does Call Me Dave

One sits up sharply and says blimey...

Blimey...

[jshell]

mybrainhurts said:

EU wakes up at last, as does Call Me Dave

Mebbe not: http://www.nuclearpowerdaily.com/reports/German_en...

[mybrainhurts]

You've lost me there. What has Germany's blunder got to do with shale gas development?

Interesting account there of the problem caused for German solar energy when clouds come and go. Those electricity supply engineers will be more stressed than air traffic controllers by now...I'd risk a little bet their favourite swear word is now MERKEL...

[steveatesh]

Guam said:

Hearing Rumours of Viner on the A1 north of Grantham

Well certainly in the North East - been Global Warming coming down in showers of the stuff on and off all day.

Went out for a bike ride and it was Much Worse Than I Thought it was going to be.

[turbobloke]

Delingpole on the believer desperation level needed to hook into the tornado aftermath.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/...

[Pablo16v]

steveatesh said:

Guam said:

Hearing Rumours of Viner on the A1 north of Grantham

Well certainly in the North East - been Global Warming coming down in showers of the stuff on and off all day.

Went out for a bike ride and it was Much Worse Than I Thought it was going to be.

Roads are closed around Tomintoul and Glenshee according to Sally Traffic.

[turbobloke]

EU Leaders Back Shale Revolution and Roll Back Climate Policy as Energy Summit Turns Climate Agenda Upside Down

Europe’s heads of State and government want to promote shale gas and to reduce energy prices. They would rather promote competition than stop global warming.
Christopher Ziedler, Der Tagesspiegel, 22 May 2013

[mybrainhurts]

turbobloke said:

Delingpole on the believer desperation level needed to hook into the tornado aftermath.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/...

Your end hyphen cocked up the link, TB..

Fixed below

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/...

[Happy82]

There was a spot of Viner in Guildford earlier too, thank god for all this warming otherwise we'd be a frozen wasteland

[turbobloke]

mybrainhurts said:

turbobloke said:

Delingpole on the believer desperation level needed to hook into the tornado aftermath.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/...

Your end hyphen cocked up the link, TB..

Fixed below

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/...

Ooops and thanks.

[Happy82]

mybrainhurts said:

turbobloke said:

Delingpole on the believer desperation level needed to hook into the tornado aftermath.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/...

Your end hyphen cocked up the link, TB..

Fixed below

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/...

http://www.spannerfilms.net/400ppm

OMG!!!!11111oneoneone

[rovermorris999]

Some deluded people posting comments. Well-meaning many of them, but bonkers.

[Jasandjules]

turbobloke said:

Delingpole on the believer desperation level needed to hook into the tornado aftermath.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/...

At times like this I like to ask them "where did you say in the late 90s and early 2000s that Global Warming in fact meant snow in summer and so on".. Then I point out the lovely cached article wherein our grandchildren won't know what snow is.... The bluster that comes back is usually entertaining...

[AnonSpoilSport]

Guam said:

The Vinerism has hit the press
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329520/Ju...

Has a village somewhere lost one of its denizens?




Do you think he's coloured all the pictures in now?

[Jasandjules]

AnonSpoilSport said:

Do you think he's coloured all the pictures in now?

Don't be stupid.

He'd get a butler to do it.