RE: Peugeot 309 GTI: PH Ad Break
Discussion
Andy ap said:
Was that Quentin Wilson narrating?
It's Robin Bailey - anyone remember the Cockburn port ads? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKYlRybc7Ik
I had one in Graphite Grey back in the 90's - G588 TUE. I loved that car. My mate had a 205 GTI 1.6 and they were absolutely dead even in acceleration. It's so sad to see Peugeot's now - they look so bland and ugly. Maybe I'm looking through rose-tinted glasses, and maybe all new cars are bland, but I'd still take a car from the 90's over a new car any day.
Steely4WD said:
My first car was a 309! Drove lovely but I may have my first car tinted glassed on.
Loved everything about it.... well apart from the speedo that wobbled so much you didn't know if you was doing 30 or 40mph
I passed my test in a 309 1.9d & I thought it was nice to drive but compared to my skoda super estelle 120L that i had at the same time at 17 it would be! Loved everything about it.... well apart from the speedo that wobbled so much you didn't know if you was doing 30 or 40mph
Liquid Tuna said:
I had one in Graphite Grey back in the 90's - G588 TUE. I loved that car. My mate had a 205 GTI 1.6 and they were absolutely dead even in acceleration. It's so sad to see Peugeot's now - they look so bland and ugly. Maybe I'm looking through rose-tinted glasses, and maybe all new cars are bland, but I'd still take a car from the 90's over a new car any day.
Yes, I remember the various magazine road testers getting pretty much identical results from the two under acceleration.Interesting reading all the reminiscing about the 205s ugly sister. I always remember the sunroof hiss when you closed it.
My time with a 309Gti probably came about because of the little 205Gti below in the mid 80s
One of my friends got a B-reg 1.6gti only a couple of years old to start with - it was the early 105bhp engine but we could all recognize it was a proper little driver's car. Very different to rwd Escorts and Sunbeams but nicely trimmable on the throttle all the same
As the months progressed we all got wind of the forthcoming 1.9 version - One hundred and thirty brake horse power!
Might seem a little lame now but when you're 20 years old this seemed tremendous in a small 205 sized/weight car. One of my friends got his order in and got the first one available from the local Telford dealer. We all went down to help him take delivery - the half-leather seats, the lovely 15" alloys, the SMELL of a new car..............
Plus after it was run in that distinctive smell from the hot engine bay and the lovely 'guzzling' noise from the exhaust at low revs as you pull off.
It was soon apparent that it was a particularly capable little car cross country especially in those trips to the Welsh Coast in the early hours of a summer Sunday morning. It had that extra bite that the 105bhp 1.6 didn't have, plus it seemed to have an even more lively rear end in extremis which you could 'play' with.
Soon another friend was hooked and, like the afore-mentioned buyer, earning good money as a mechanic with Mazda Rally Team, his order for a new 1.9 205 went in as well. I think it was a smidge under 10k for a new one back then. The demand for them was such that he had to wait a few months and didn't get it till the 'E' plates were out
I think soon about four of my friends had new or nearly new 1.9s. Having got a house they were out of my price-range but I did get to drive them quite often in exchange for a return drive in my old rwd car
I was quite tempted to get one myself.....................but one day my friend got a courtesy 309Gti whilst his 205 was in for a service. Bearing in mind how many cars he'd sold to us all the local Peugeot dealer told me to have a go in it as well. I did mention to him that with other outgoings I wasn't really in a position to afford a new car......but he insisted. To me, it seemed even better handling. Maybe not so twitchy over bumps but still the same keen engine and lovely steering ( only with power assistance ) and certainly the dealer demo seemed no slower than at least one of my friends' 205s
It wasn't long before a nice condition second-hand one came up ........and having had the Manta for a fair few years and really enjoyed it I decided it was time for a change
It was a good condition one with about 35000 miles and had just passed its first MOT - it was a great car on the Welsh B-roads and had a fair few good drives in tandem with the 205s, often heading up to the coast and running down Wales.
Here it is up by the Menai bridge looking fairly 'road-worn'
At the same time the mags were pouring praise on the car and I think at least one of my 205GTi owning friends would have gone for one if they could have got over the looks - a fact registered by old 'Performance Car' mag with the tagline to the article below
They also labelled it Peugeot's 'Best Handling Car' in their Knowledge section, which later got upgraded to the 'Best Handling Hot Hatch'
'Autocar' also did an article praising the handling compared to its brethren - certainly never felt short-changed following the 205s and although it carried an extra 80 kilos of weight over the 205, never noticed a shortfall in performance either.
'Performance Car' ran one as long-termer and it was the test mule for their 1991 Tyre Test
That certainly came in handy for selecting tyres and I ran mine on the Yokohamas they recommended, firstly in the proper 185/55 fitment and also in 195/50 size when I had trouble getting the 55 profiles.
'Autocar' also included it in their 1990 Annual Handling Day selection amongst the bigger, faster stuff. It won a fair amount of praise too.
They also included it in a fair few group tests against the faster hatches of its time where it did well on account of its handling
'CAR' pitted it against both variants of the GTi at the time
I liked the fact that Peugeot gave you a full set of instruments, oil temp and pressure and water temp. I never had any big problems with mine in 45000 miles and just over 3 years use. Just the usual stuff like tyres, oil and filter changes and brakes. Plus the battery just gave up without warning one cold winter's day. The rear remote opening quarter vents used to rattle slightly over broken tarmac but it was well worth opening them as the exhaust note was quite nice to listen when you were out for a bit of a drive. Had to buy a new engine undertray as the fittings bent when it came off once. Mine didn't really ever suffer from the erratic idle either although I must admit I never did much town driving and it generally had a good run out most drives. One of us even bought the the special Peugeot sump plug key so oil changes weren't a hassle looking for the special adapter for your socket set.
One of my friends with a 1.9 205 moved onto a Williams partway through me owning the 309. Although it had a bit more straight line go I have to say I still preferred the 309 for handling - even he conceded that it was 'swings and roundabouts' after we had a swap and run up the Berwyns. The Peugeot had a lovely flow through fast bends and you could even bring the tail into play with it if you had a little lift and then got back on the power. Never quite as severe as in the 205s I drove though
Good as it was, I still enjoyed a rwd fun car and thanks to the Peugeot not costing me much through my ownership stint I was able to buy a rumbly V6 for an alternative driving experience. I can remember one of the mechanics at Peugeot Talbot Sport telliing us 80K miles was a good point to swap the Gtis in at, as although they would soldier on provided you spent money on them, this figure was often the point when they miight need several more expensive jobs doing.....especially if they'd been driven quite hard.....and I knew we were all guilty of that.
I ran both cars for a fair few months as I enjoyed them both but in the end after 3 years of good fun I sold the 309 on. It's rare to see them anymore ( although I do see a Goodwood quite regularly ) and it looks like mine came to an end in the early part of the new millenium. I often wonder if the subsequent owners enjoyed their time with it as much as I did.
My time with a 309Gti probably came about because of the little 205Gti below in the mid 80s
One of my friends got a B-reg 1.6gti only a couple of years old to start with - it was the early 105bhp engine but we could all recognize it was a proper little driver's car. Very different to rwd Escorts and Sunbeams but nicely trimmable on the throttle all the same
As the months progressed we all got wind of the forthcoming 1.9 version - One hundred and thirty brake horse power!
Might seem a little lame now but when you're 20 years old this seemed tremendous in a small 205 sized/weight car. One of my friends got his order in and got the first one available from the local Telford dealer. We all went down to help him take delivery - the half-leather seats, the lovely 15" alloys, the SMELL of a new car..............
Plus after it was run in that distinctive smell from the hot engine bay and the lovely 'guzzling' noise from the exhaust at low revs as you pull off.
It was soon apparent that it was a particularly capable little car cross country especially in those trips to the Welsh Coast in the early hours of a summer Sunday morning. It had that extra bite that the 105bhp 1.6 didn't have, plus it seemed to have an even more lively rear end in extremis which you could 'play' with.
Soon another friend was hooked and, like the afore-mentioned buyer, earning good money as a mechanic with Mazda Rally Team, his order for a new 1.9 205 went in as well. I think it was a smidge under 10k for a new one back then. The demand for them was such that he had to wait a few months and didn't get it till the 'E' plates were out
I think soon about four of my friends had new or nearly new 1.9s. Having got a house they were out of my price-range but I did get to drive them quite often in exchange for a return drive in my old rwd car
I was quite tempted to get one myself.....................but one day my friend got a courtesy 309Gti whilst his 205 was in for a service. Bearing in mind how many cars he'd sold to us all the local Peugeot dealer told me to have a go in it as well. I did mention to him that with other outgoings I wasn't really in a position to afford a new car......but he insisted. To me, it seemed even better handling. Maybe not so twitchy over bumps but still the same keen engine and lovely steering ( only with power assistance ) and certainly the dealer demo seemed no slower than at least one of my friends' 205s
It wasn't long before a nice condition second-hand one came up ........and having had the Manta for a fair few years and really enjoyed it I decided it was time for a change
It was a good condition one with about 35000 miles and had just passed its first MOT - it was a great car on the Welsh B-roads and had a fair few good drives in tandem with the 205s, often heading up to the coast and running down Wales.
Here it is up by the Menai bridge looking fairly 'road-worn'
At the same time the mags were pouring praise on the car and I think at least one of my 205GTi owning friends would have gone for one if they could have got over the looks - a fact registered by old 'Performance Car' mag with the tagline to the article below
They also labelled it Peugeot's 'Best Handling Car' in their Knowledge section, which later got upgraded to the 'Best Handling Hot Hatch'
'Autocar' also did an article praising the handling compared to its brethren - certainly never felt short-changed following the 205s and although it carried an extra 80 kilos of weight over the 205, never noticed a shortfall in performance either.
'Performance Car' ran one as long-termer and it was the test mule for their 1991 Tyre Test
That certainly came in handy for selecting tyres and I ran mine on the Yokohamas they recommended, firstly in the proper 185/55 fitment and also in 195/50 size when I had trouble getting the 55 profiles.
'Autocar' also included it in their 1990 Annual Handling Day selection amongst the bigger, faster stuff. It won a fair amount of praise too.
They also included it in a fair few group tests against the faster hatches of its time where it did well on account of its handling
'CAR' pitted it against both variants of the GTi at the time
I liked the fact that Peugeot gave you a full set of instruments, oil temp and pressure and water temp. I never had any big problems with mine in 45000 miles and just over 3 years use. Just the usual stuff like tyres, oil and filter changes and brakes. Plus the battery just gave up without warning one cold winter's day. The rear remote opening quarter vents used to rattle slightly over broken tarmac but it was well worth opening them as the exhaust note was quite nice to listen when you were out for a bit of a drive. Had to buy a new engine undertray as the fittings bent when it came off once. Mine didn't really ever suffer from the erratic idle either although I must admit I never did much town driving and it generally had a good run out most drives. One of us even bought the the special Peugeot sump plug key so oil changes weren't a hassle looking for the special adapter for your socket set.
One of my friends with a 1.9 205 moved onto a Williams partway through me owning the 309. Although it had a bit more straight line go I have to say I still preferred the 309 for handling - even he conceded that it was 'swings and roundabouts' after we had a swap and run up the Berwyns. The Peugeot had a lovely flow through fast bends and you could even bring the tail into play with it if you had a little lift and then got back on the power. Never quite as severe as in the 205s I drove though
Good as it was, I still enjoyed a rwd fun car and thanks to the Peugeot not costing me much through my ownership stint I was able to buy a rumbly V6 for an alternative driving experience. I can remember one of the mechanics at Peugeot Talbot Sport telliing us 80K miles was a good point to swap the Gtis in at, as although they would soldier on provided you spent money on them, this figure was often the point when they miight need several more expensive jobs doing.....especially if they'd been driven quite hard.....and I knew we were all guilty of that.
I ran both cars for a fair few months as I enjoyed them both but in the end after 3 years of good fun I sold the 309 on. It's rare to see them anymore ( although I do see a Goodwood quite regularly ) and it looks like mine came to an end in the early part of the new millenium. I often wonder if the subsequent owners enjoyed their time with it as much as I did.
Edited by s m on Thursday 23 May 14:37
enjoyed those memories, John barker looks about 12 on that photo! I do hope I'm not the only person sad enough to try and identify the other 9 hot hatches. The trouble is I'm just guessing at the Japanese ones. I think it goes XR3i,216 Vitesse,Mitsubishi Colt,Alfa 33, Corolla Gti,MG Maestro,Mazda 323,Astra,Golf.
The other thought I had ,is what would an immaculate example of each be worth now ? Presumably the Golf would be most valuable but a Mk4 XR3 is probably one of the few sporty Fords not to be worth a lot and would the rarity of the Japanese outweigh the popular appeal of the Vauxhall,Ford and MG?
The other thought I had ,is what would an immaculate example of each be worth now ? Presumably the Golf would be most valuable but a Mk4 XR3 is probably one of the few sporty Fords not to be worth a lot and would the rarity of the Japanese outweigh the popular appeal of the Vauxhall,Ford and MG?
r1ch said:
Great advert, i love the James Bond style 205 GTI adverts too, very funny.
If i had a 309 it would have to be a goodwood
Shame they rust badly and lots of 205 owners have stole their beams.
mine was 8yrs old when I got it and it had started to go in the bottom rear corner on the drivers door frame (in line with the B pillar). Otherwise it was fine.If i had a 309 it would have to be a goodwood
Shame they rust badly and lots of 205 owners have stole their beams
.I remember them being fairly rust-resistant actually, certainly no worse than any other galvanised car.
Edited by Baz Tench on Thursday 23 May 19:27
I had a white GTI 3 door F128 ENF (still have the plate on my garage wall) k&n filter, chipped, sports exhaust, lowered with OMP strut brace. Would buy it back, but probably way past it now or scraped. Sold it at 115,000 miles for good money. Was one of the cars I regretted selling.
Loved the boot as you could fit ample audio gear, in my early 20's it was a cool car to own and not that slow!
Will dig out a pic
Cheers Jon
Loved the boot as you could fit ample audio gear, in my early 20's it was a cool car to own and not that slow!
Will dig out a pic
Cheers Jon
Edited by BrightYellowTVR on Thursday 23 May 19:22
Edited by BrightYellowTVR on Thursday 23 May 19:27
I was an Alfa fan back then and still am to some degree, the conclusions on the 33 16V in the PC test make me chuckle, great engine but the rest of the car was awful. Great period pics of the 309, don't quite see the attraction of the Goodwood edition - for me it has to be a 3dr in Red , Black or White with yellow tinted foglamps.
I've got a Peugeot 309 GTI as my daily car, ok its got its far share of brittle plastic and water leakage but find a good stretch of B-Road and you forget about that.
Peugeot 309 GTI by Matty Way, on Flickr
Peugeot 309 GTI by Matty Way, on Flickr
M666 EVO said:
My 309 GTi was epic, never went wrong and was very quick round the corners. It was a minter, until I smashed into the central reservation of the A2. Sad times.
Sorry the image is side down
Sorry the image is side down
Edited by M666 EVO on Thursday 23 May 16:15
Edited by M666 EVO on Thursday 23 May 16:17
Looks a wee bit better now... Lovely Machine!
s m said:
Interesting reading all the reminiscing about the 205s ugly sister. I always remember the sunroof hiss when you closed it.
My time with a 309Gti probably came about because of the little 205Gti below in the mid 80s
One of my friends got a B-reg 1.6gti only a couple of years old to start with - it was the early 105bhp engine but we could all recognize it was a proper little driver's car. Very different to rwd Escorts and Sunbeams but nicely trimmable on the throttle all the same
As the months progressed we all got wind of the forthcoming 1.9 version - One hundred and thirty brake horse power!
Might seem a little lame now but when you're 20 years old this seemed tremendous in a small 205 sized/weight car. One of my friends got his order in and got the first one available from the local Telford dealer. We all went down to help him take delivery - the half-leather seats, the lovely 15" alloys, the SMELL of a new car..............
Plus after it was run in that distinctive smell from the hot engine bay and the lovely 'guzzling' noise from the exhaust at low revs as you pull off.
It was soon apparent that it was a particularly capable little car cross country especially in those trips to the Welsh Coast in the early hours of a summer Sunday morning. It had that extra bite that the 105bhp 1.6 didn't have, plus it seemed to have an even more lively rear end in extremis which you could 'play' with.
Soon another friend was hooked and, like the afore-mentioned buyer, earning good money as a mechanic with Mazda Rally Team, his order for a new 1.9 205 went in as well. I think it was a smidge under 10k for a new one back then. The demand for them was such that he had to wait a few months and didn't get it till the 'E' plates were out
I think soon about four of my friends had new or nearly new 1.9s. Having got a house they were out of my price-range but I did get to drive them quite often in exchange for a return drive in my old rwd car
I was quite tempted to get one myself.....................but one day my friend got a courtesy 309Gti whilst his 205 was in for a service. Bearing in mind how many cars he'd sold to us all the local Peugeot dealer told me to have a go in it as well. I did mention to him that with other outgoings I wasn't really in a position to afford a new car......but he insisted. To me, it seemed even better handling. Maybe not so twitchy over bumps but still the same keen engine and lovely steering ( only with power assistance ) and certainly the dealer demo seemed no slower than at least one of my friends' 205s
It wasn't long before a nice condition second-hand one came up ........and having had the Manta for a fair few years and really enjoyed it I decided it was time for a change
It was a good condition one with about 35000 miles and had just passed its first MOT - it was a great car on the Welsh B-roads and had a fair few good drives in tandem with the 205s, often heading up to the coast and running down Wales.
Here it is up by the Menai bridge looking fairly 'road-worn'
At the same time the mags were pouring praise on the car and I think at least one of my 205GTi owning friends would have gone for one if they could have got over the looks - a fact registered by old 'Performance Car' mag with the tagline to the article below
They also labelled it Peugeot's 'Best Handling Car' in their Knowledge section, which later got upgraded to the 'Best Handling Hot Hatch'
'Autocar' also did an article praising the handling compared to its brethren - certainly never felt short-changed following the 205s and although it carried an extra 80 kilos of weight over the 205, never noticed a shortfall in performance either.
'Performance Car' ran one as long-termer and it was the test mule for their 1991 Tyre Test
That certainly came in handy for selecting tyres and I ran mine on the Yokohamas they recommended, firstly in the proper 185/55 fitment and also in 195/50 size when I had trouble getting the 55 profiles.
'Autocar' also included it in their 1990 Annual Handling Day selection amongst the bigger, faster stuff. It won a fair amount of praise too.
They also included it in a fair few group tests against the faster hatches of its time where it did well on account of its handling
'CAR' pitted it against both variants of the GTi at the time
I liked the fact that Peugeot gave you a full set of instruments, oil temp and pressure and water temp. I never had any big problems with mine in 45000 miles and just over 3 years use. Just the usual stuff like tyres, oil and filter changes and brakes. Plus the battery just gave up without warning one cold winter's day. The rear remote opening quarter vents used to rattle slightly over broken tarmac but it was well worth opening them as the exhaust note was quite nice to listen when you were out for a bit of a drive. Had to buy a new engine undertray as the fittings bent when it came off once. Mine didn't really ever suffer from the erratic idle either although I must admit I never did much town driving and it generally had a good run out most drives. One of us even bought the the special Peugeot sump plug key so oil changes weren't a hassle looking for the special adapter for your socket set.
One of my friends with a 1.9 205 moved onto a Williams partway through me owning the 309. Although it had a bit more straight line go I have to say I still preferred the 309 for handling - even he conceded that it was 'swings and roundabouts' after we had a swap and run up the Berwyns. The Peugeot had a lovely flow through fast bends and you could even bring the tail into play with it if you had a little lift and then got back on the power. Never quite as severe as in the 205s I drove though
Good as it was, I still enjoyed a rwd fun car and thanks to the Peugeot not costing me much through my ownership stint I was able to buy a rumbly V6 for an alternative driving experience. I can remember one of the mechanics at Peugeot Talbot Sport telliing us 80K miles was a good point to swap the Gtis in at, as although they would soldier on provided you spent money on them, this figure was often the point when they miight need several more expensive jobs doing.....especially if they'd been driven quite hard.....and I knew we were all guilty of that.
I ran both cars for a fair few months as I enjoyed them both but in the end after 3 years of good fun I sold the 309 on. It's rare to see them anymore ( although I do see a Goodwood quite regularly ) and it looks like mine came to an end in the early part of the new millenium. I often wonder if the subsequent owners enjoyed their time with it as much as I did.
Great post thanks.My time with a 309Gti probably came about because of the little 205Gti below in the mid 80s
One of my friends got a B-reg 1.6gti only a couple of years old to start with - it was the early 105bhp engine but we could all recognize it was a proper little driver's car. Very different to rwd Escorts and Sunbeams but nicely trimmable on the throttle all the same
As the months progressed we all got wind of the forthcoming 1.9 version - One hundred and thirty brake horse power!
Might seem a little lame now but when you're 20 years old this seemed tremendous in a small 205 sized/weight car. One of my friends got his order in and got the first one available from the local Telford dealer. We all went down to help him take delivery - the half-leather seats, the lovely 15" alloys, the SMELL of a new car..............
Plus after it was run in that distinctive smell from the hot engine bay and the lovely 'guzzling' noise from the exhaust at low revs as you pull off.
It was soon apparent that it was a particularly capable little car cross country especially in those trips to the Welsh Coast in the early hours of a summer Sunday morning. It had that extra bite that the 105bhp 1.6 didn't have, plus it seemed to have an even more lively rear end in extremis which you could 'play' with.
Soon another friend was hooked and, like the afore-mentioned buyer, earning good money as a mechanic with Mazda Rally Team, his order for a new 1.9 205 went in as well. I think it was a smidge under 10k for a new one back then. The demand for them was such that he had to wait a few months and didn't get it till the 'E' plates were out
I think soon about four of my friends had new or nearly new 1.9s. Having got a house they were out of my price-range but I did get to drive them quite often in exchange for a return drive in my old rwd car
I was quite tempted to get one myself.....................but one day my friend got a courtesy 309Gti whilst his 205 was in for a service. Bearing in mind how many cars he'd sold to us all the local Peugeot dealer told me to have a go in it as well. I did mention to him that with other outgoings I wasn't really in a position to afford a new car......but he insisted. To me, it seemed even better handling. Maybe not so twitchy over bumps but still the same keen engine and lovely steering ( only with power assistance ) and certainly the dealer demo seemed no slower than at least one of my friends' 205s
It wasn't long before a nice condition second-hand one came up ........and having had the Manta for a fair few years and really enjoyed it I decided it was time for a change
It was a good condition one with about 35000 miles and had just passed its first MOT - it was a great car on the Welsh B-roads and had a fair few good drives in tandem with the 205s, often heading up to the coast and running down Wales.
Here it is up by the Menai bridge looking fairly 'road-worn'
At the same time the mags were pouring praise on the car and I think at least one of my 205GTi owning friends would have gone for one if they could have got over the looks - a fact registered by old 'Performance Car' mag with the tagline to the article below
They also labelled it Peugeot's 'Best Handling Car' in their Knowledge section, which later got upgraded to the 'Best Handling Hot Hatch'
'Autocar' also did an article praising the handling compared to its brethren - certainly never felt short-changed following the 205s and although it carried an extra 80 kilos of weight over the 205, never noticed a shortfall in performance either.
'Performance Car' ran one as long-termer and it was the test mule for their 1991 Tyre Test
That certainly came in handy for selecting tyres and I ran mine on the Yokohamas they recommended, firstly in the proper 185/55 fitment and also in 195/50 size when I had trouble getting the 55 profiles.
'Autocar' also included it in their 1990 Annual Handling Day selection amongst the bigger, faster stuff. It won a fair amount of praise too.
They also included it in a fair few group tests against the faster hatches of its time where it did well on account of its handling
'CAR' pitted it against both variants of the GTi at the time
I liked the fact that Peugeot gave you a full set of instruments, oil temp and pressure and water temp. I never had any big problems with mine in 45000 miles and just over 3 years use. Just the usual stuff like tyres, oil and filter changes and brakes. Plus the battery just gave up without warning one cold winter's day. The rear remote opening quarter vents used to rattle slightly over broken tarmac but it was well worth opening them as the exhaust note was quite nice to listen when you were out for a bit of a drive. Had to buy a new engine undertray as the fittings bent when it came off once. Mine didn't really ever suffer from the erratic idle either although I must admit I never did much town driving and it generally had a good run out most drives. One of us even bought the the special Peugeot sump plug key so oil changes weren't a hassle looking for the special adapter for your socket set.
One of my friends with a 1.9 205 moved onto a Williams partway through me owning the 309. Although it had a bit more straight line go I have to say I still preferred the 309 for handling - even he conceded that it was 'swings and roundabouts' after we had a swap and run up the Berwyns. The Peugeot had a lovely flow through fast bends and you could even bring the tail into play with it if you had a little lift and then got back on the power. Never quite as severe as in the 205s I drove though
Good as it was, I still enjoyed a rwd fun car and thanks to the Peugeot not costing me much through my ownership stint I was able to buy a rumbly V6 for an alternative driving experience. I can remember one of the mechanics at Peugeot Talbot Sport telliing us 80K miles was a good point to swap the Gtis in at, as although they would soldier on provided you spent money on them, this figure was often the point when they miight need several more expensive jobs doing.....especially if they'd been driven quite hard.....and I knew we were all guilty of that.
I ran both cars for a fair few months as I enjoyed them both but in the end after 3 years of good fun I sold the 309 on. It's rare to see them anymore ( although I do see a Goodwood quite regularly ) and it looks like mine came to an end in the early part of the new millenium. I often wonder if the subsequent owners enjoyed their time with it as much as I did.
Edited by s m on Thursday 23 May 14:37
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