Is windows 8 really this crap??
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Funk said:
A small point but I don't actually want a touchscreen laptop. It's not a comfortable thing to use like a tablet or phone is, not to mention I already gave OCD overdrive about the screen on my phone and smudgy fingerprints. The same or worse on a laptop screen would drive me insane.
If Win8 worked consistently well it'd be ok I think.I liked it when it worked well. But the fact for 90% of even normal tasks I just go to the Win7 layout it meant it's just an expensive fad. Infact I'm sure the screen on my wifes laptop is broken now (no touch) so that needs to go back at some stage. Pain in the arse I wish she'd never bought it!
Might try do a swap if it goes back actually and get something non touch screen and bung Win7 on it.
Or just sell it. It's a £500 paperweight right now which just shows how nice it is to use vs her iPhone!
Dave
lestag said:
Sixpackpert said:
Huh?
Economical with words, but I got his ideasif you set it up with a local user account rather than a ms account - hint hint - don't have it connected to internet when you do it as the only option you will have is a local MACHINE account - you wont have the bother of having to worry about the password thing
The apps can be updated easy by clicking on the app store thing seeing if there are any updates clicking the updates and either selecting the ones you want or all then clicking update
There are more windows updates for the windows 8 than I would expect at this time in its life span - give you an idea: just done a new install of windows 8 on a mates machine - including ms office 2010 there were 47 updates just done a reinstall of windows 7 on a machine it was windows 7 original so I then put on the sp1 then including MS office there were 166 updates
In both cases Ms Office had SP1 installed before the updates were clicked
Point I am trying to make is that windows 7 is like 3 and half years old windows 8 is like 9 months I know the sp1 on windows 7 is a big update in itself but maybe you get my point
The other half corrected my spelling in this one thanks
CommanderJameson said:
98elise said:
Microsoft are dead in the water.
Oh no!98elise said:
We now own 4 windows laptops in this family
Phew!Crisis averted.
To a certain degree I believe they are dead in the water, the furture for home computing is tablet type devices and OS. People no longer blindly follow what they do at work, if anything the tide is turning and consumer devices are making their way into the workplace as they are easier to use or more suitable in a good deal of circumstances.
98elise said:
CommanderJameson said:
98elise said:
Microsoft are dead in the water.
Oh no!98elise said:
We now own 4 windows laptops in this family
Phew!Crisis averted.
To a certain degree I believe they are dead in the water, the furture for home computing is tablet type devices and OS. People no longer blindly follow what they do at work, if anything the tide is turning and consumer devices are making their way into the workplace as they are easier to use or more suitable in a good deal of circumstances.
Despite being a MS partner I'm not a fan-boy, but they are not dead in the water and never will be as they have too strong a hold in the corporate market.
IMO Windows 8 is a very strong reliable OS, it's just the tile interface doesn't work particularly well on a non-touch device. However, if you either install Classic Shell, or wait for the 8.1 patch, you can ignore the tile interface completely.
I've been running it on 2 laptops and a desktop since launch and I think it's great.
Quick update....I finally got round to unboxing the second one.
That one updated the apps fine, but refuses to update the OS. It just sits at 0% downloaded with around 50 updates needed. A quick check in the internet bought up a utility to fix problems downloading updates in windows 8.
That fixed some corrupted files etc, but on the downloading updates issue it just says it can't fix it
The next suggestion from MS is to do a restore, thats in progress now. Following that is a rebuild, so I suspect it will be going back to the shop with the first laptop.
At least thats both f
ked together so just the one trip to return them 
That one updated the apps fine, but refuses to update the OS. It just sits at 0% downloaded with around 50 updates needed. A quick check in the internet bought up a utility to fix problems downloading updates in windows 8.
That fixed some corrupted files etc, but on the downloading updates issue it just says it can't fix it
The next suggestion from MS is to do a restore, thats in progress now. Following that is a rebuild, so I suspect it will be going back to the shop with the first laptop.
At least thats both f
ked together so just the one trip to return them Bullett said:
Sounds like a massively borked image the OEM has put on these. I think that returning them and then replacing with a different brand/model is the best plan.
You could be right. The restore just made the machine painfully slow, and it still won't do updates. Its going through complete factory reset now. This time as soon as I get through the basic set up I'll go straight to the windows update and kick it off. If it doesn't update then its got to be borked.
Last time I set a few things up like e-mail, and downloaded the app updates.
Edit....fresh install of windows 8, still won't download updates. Run the MS Fix untility, and it says its fixed the download updates problem, start the updates, and it again does nothing, 0%.
Looking at the update history lots of them are saying "failed"
While it is does sound like the suppliers build, the laptops have different problems and Microsoft have work arounds for all the issues. which does make it sound like a windows 8 problem.
None of the workarounds actually fix the problem though!
Edited by 98elise on Tuesday 18th June 21:41
Tallbutbuxomly said:
98 bullett is bang on the money both the pc's were fked from the getgo.
Get a totally different make/model of pc. WIn 8 does genuinely work really well on the right machines.
As there wasn't much else I could do I just left it with the update running. Its now burst into life and is doing the updates. I would say it sat for a good hour or so doing nothing.ked from the getgo.Get a totally different make/model of pc. WIn 8 does genuinely work really well on the right machines.
Still going to take them both back as there is something fundamentally something wrong with them.
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