Audi TT MK1 Vs 350Z?
Discussion
It's far more than just a TT. Full spec:
The car is ( and i have been told this by many mk1 fans ) one of the best mk1's in the country and is very close to being in concours condition.
The exterior of the car is in great condition with little stone chipping to the front spoiler and bonnet. Paintwork has recently been machine polished locally by Autodetox and is washed regulary with 2 bucket system, Zymol canuba wax apllied and is like glass. The car is always garaged and covered and rarely does any wet miles as it is my second car.
The car has been proffesionally modified by the previous owner and all parts purchased and installed by the TT SHOP list below:
Manual -18inch 3SDM 0.01's with Goodyear Eagle f1 tyres with very little wear -15mm front and 20mm rear spacers - Bilstein PSS Coilovers H14's fully adjustable - Superpro wishbone bushes - Defcon wishbone inserts - Superpro dogbone bush - H&R anti roll bars - Superpro bushes for ARB's - Haldex controller - Forge 6 piston 356mm brake kit using yellow stuff pads - Miller racing brake fluid - superpro rear toe bushes - Blueflame Y shape exhaust - Modshack intake - Revo stage 2 remap - Forge adjustable tiebars - Forge short and side shifter - 2 x Recaro pole positions - Rear seat delete - Stoptech rear discs with Pagid pads.
Rear light symetry - LED sidelights - 6000k Xenons to match LED colour - TT shop boot mat added by myself , there really isn't anything left to do on this TT .
All parts fitted at near enough the same time and have only been on the car few a few thousand miles.
This is truly one of the best handling mk1 TT's i have ever driven , performance to finally match the looks.
It has 8 months tax and MOT ( has only covered about 500 miles since last tested ) and has no faults.
HPI clear
The car is ( and i have been told this by many mk1 fans ) one of the best mk1's in the country and is very close to being in concours condition.
The exterior of the car is in great condition with little stone chipping to the front spoiler and bonnet. Paintwork has recently been machine polished locally by Autodetox and is washed regulary with 2 bucket system, Zymol canuba wax apllied and is like glass. The car is always garaged and covered and rarely does any wet miles as it is my second car.
The car has been proffesionally modified by the previous owner and all parts purchased and installed by the TT SHOP list below:
Manual -18inch 3SDM 0.01's with Goodyear Eagle f1 tyres with very little wear -15mm front and 20mm rear spacers - Bilstein PSS Coilovers H14's fully adjustable - Superpro wishbone bushes - Defcon wishbone inserts - Superpro dogbone bush - H&R anti roll bars - Superpro bushes for ARB's - Haldex controller - Forge 6 piston 356mm brake kit using yellow stuff pads - Miller racing brake fluid - superpro rear toe bushes - Blueflame Y shape exhaust - Modshack intake - Revo stage 2 remap - Forge adjustable tiebars - Forge short and side shifter - 2 x Recaro pole positions - Rear seat delete - Stoptech rear discs with Pagid pads.
Rear light symetry - LED sidelights - 6000k Xenons to match LED colour - TT shop boot mat added by myself , there really isn't anything left to do on this TT .
All parts fitted at near enough the same time and have only been on the car few a few thousand miles.
This is truly one of the best handling mk1 TT's i have ever driven , performance to finally match the looks.
It has 8 months tax and MOT ( has only covered about 500 miles since last tested ) and has no faults.
HPI clear
350Z spec:
Yes it's the lower tax bracket of £260 per year. The GT4 was a limited
edition run of 174 cars (100 in black, 74 in yellow) of the 350z with the
300hp rev up enigine.
Basically it's the same engine as the >06 models without the higher road
tax.
Also it's limited edition so holds it's value better.
It's had 4 previous owners.
I've just had the front bumper resprayed as it was very stone chipped
(common problem on these) and have pics before and after it was done.
There is no previous accident damage on the car.
The Rev up engine normally has a problem with excessive oil consumption.
In June 2010 it had an enigine rebuild, due to a previous owner letting the
oil run low, at Abbey Motorsport at a cost of £4078.86 (receipt included) at
31,237 miles. The engine is now spot on with no oil consumption and was
recently dyno-ed at Abbey and produced very good BHP compared to other
rev-up Zeds there on the day.
Mechanically, the car has only been looked after by Abbey Motorsport in Oxted by myself and the previous owner. I wouldn't take it anywhere else! It is only run on Shell V-Power and burns no oil.
The stereo system has been upgraded to:
Alpine CDA-105Ri Head-Unit
Alpine steering wheel interface
Genesis Audiophile 16.03 Components
Genesis Audiophile 25.01 10" Subwoofer
Sealed sub enclosure from 'zenclosures in the boot
JBL Amp
The car also has uprated Ferodo DS2500 brake pads and DBA 4000 series discs.
The drive shafts have also been sorted so make no noises (again another
common fault on the 350z)
The major P3 service was done in April 2012 at which point the Compression
(banana) arm bushes were replaced (another common issue on these cars). Also
that year, the plugs were replaced with OEM NGK platinum plugs and 4 wheel
alignment was done.
The last service was a P1 on 20/04/13 and will be due it's next service (P2)
in April 2014.
It is a UK car.
Road tax runs out 30/04/14 and MOT 26/04/14.
The car as a JWT popcharger intake and a Japspeed K2 exhaust (only slightly
louder than OEM, makes a good noise - not too loud!)
The GT4 has everything the GT has: Cuise control, electric leather seats
etc...
Yes it's the lower tax bracket of £260 per year. The GT4 was a limited
edition run of 174 cars (100 in black, 74 in yellow) of the 350z with the
300hp rev up enigine.
Basically it's the same engine as the >06 models without the higher road
tax.
Also it's limited edition so holds it's value better.
It's had 4 previous owners.
I've just had the front bumper resprayed as it was very stone chipped
(common problem on these) and have pics before and after it was done.
There is no previous accident damage on the car.
The Rev up engine normally has a problem with excessive oil consumption.
In June 2010 it had an enigine rebuild, due to a previous owner letting the
oil run low, at Abbey Motorsport at a cost of £4078.86 (receipt included) at
31,237 miles. The engine is now spot on with no oil consumption and was
recently dyno-ed at Abbey and produced very good BHP compared to other
rev-up Zeds there on the day.
Mechanically, the car has only been looked after by Abbey Motorsport in Oxted by myself and the previous owner. I wouldn't take it anywhere else! It is only run on Shell V-Power and burns no oil.
The stereo system has been upgraded to:
Alpine CDA-105Ri Head-Unit
Alpine steering wheel interface
Genesis Audiophile 16.03 Components
Genesis Audiophile 25.01 10" Subwoofer
Sealed sub enclosure from 'zenclosures in the boot
JBL Amp
The car also has uprated Ferodo DS2500 brake pads and DBA 4000 series discs.
The drive shafts have also been sorted so make no noises (again another
common fault on the 350z)
The major P3 service was done in April 2012 at which point the Compression
(banana) arm bushes were replaced (another common issue on these cars). Also
that year, the plugs were replaced with OEM NGK platinum plugs and 4 wheel
alignment was done.
The last service was a P1 on 20/04/13 and will be due it's next service (P2)
in April 2014.
It is a UK car.
Road tax runs out 30/04/14 and MOT 26/04/14.
The car as a JWT popcharger intake and a Japspeed K2 exhaust (only slightly
louder than OEM, makes a good noise - not too loud!)
The GT4 has everything the GT has: Cuise control, electric leather seats
etc...
I just want a great car that looks great and is well built and sorted and has some great mods to make it different. I really like the look of both cars. The Audi has recap pole positions and the rear seat removed etc as well as being mapped to 280hp.
The engine rebuild wouldn't worry me. If its done right with receipts it should be as good as new with a lot less miles right?
Some of the Rev up 300hp engine in the Z have the issue of burning oil. Doesn't mean it was abused in this case I don't think as a lot had the problem.
The engine rebuild wouldn't worry me. If its done right with receipts it should be as good as new with a lot less miles right?
Some of the Rev up 300hp engine in the Z have the issue of burning oil. Doesn't mean it was abused in this case I don't think as a lot had the problem.
Baryonyx said:
Au contraire. Having owned a TT 225, driven a friend's V6, and test driven a 180, I can confirm that TT's are always better to look at that they are to drive! A fabulous piece of visual design mated with a rather average driving experience. The only ones I haven't driven are the 150 and the Quattro Sport.
TBH when I first saw a TT on the road back in the '90s I thought the design looked fresh, innovative and different. Very quickly though, the cars were just everywhere, and rightly or wrongly I began to see them as the default easy choice for someone who wanted style over substance. Haven't driven one; it's really not my thing.speedtwelve said:
TBH when I first saw a TT on the road back in the '90s I thought the design looked fresh, innovative and different. Very quickly though, the cars were just everywhere, and rightly or wrongly I began to see them as the default easy choice for someone who wanted style over substance. Haven't driven one; it's really not my thing.
was the MK1 TT not just a VW Golf wearing a new dress?? speedtwelve said:
Exactly.
I am agreeing not arguing (for once)I remember going footy training back when they first came out. A few of the guys bought one so the car park looked like an Audi dealership. My Trevor looked awfully manly back then.
I dont think a TT will ever get away from the hairdressers image but TBH I dont like the 350 either.
everyone has personal tastes, the OP should just flip a coin if he cannot decide.
I think 9k is way too much for either car.
I would be looking for a nice trevor, porsche, Maserati, M5 or the like for that sort of cash. Why buy an average performance car with some bolt on's when you could have the real deal?
TT or 350Z potentially less likely to throw up eye-watering bills compared to possible IMS/RMS failure on a 996 or utter financial suicide on a Maser 3200GT.
My Trevor has cost me £6000 in bills in the last 10k miles, but I went in with my eyes open, knowing it was a TVR. If it's an only car, an Audi or Nissan probably entails less risk overall.
My Trevor has cost me £6000 in bills in the last 10k miles, but I went in with my eyes open, knowing it was a TVR. If it's an only car, an Audi or Nissan probably entails less risk overall.
Like has been said, both cars are getting on a bit and £9k is too much.
In general, when you modify a car you cannot expect to get any returns on resale. Most people I know sell the modifications separately due to this.
If you buy one at this price expect a big depreciation, quickly. Which is not so good if you then decide you made the wrong choice.
There's a massive amount of very nice cars on the market at 9k.
In general, when you modify a car you cannot expect to get any returns on resale. Most people I know sell the modifications separately due to this.
If you buy one at this price expect a big depreciation, quickly. Which is not so good if you then decide you made the wrong choice.
There's a massive amount of very nice cars on the market at 9k.
speedtwelve said:
TT or 350Z potentially less likely to throw up eye-watering bills compared to possible IMS/RMS failure on a 996 or utter financial suicide on a Maser 3200GT.
My Trevor has cost me £6000 in bills in the last 10k miles, but I went in with my eyes open, knowing it was a TVR. If it's an only car, an Audi or Nissan probably entails less risk overall.
ouchMy Trevor has cost me £6000 in bills in the last 10k miles, but I went in with my eyes open, knowing it was a TVR. If it's an only car, an Audi or Nissan probably entails less risk overall.
I have had a TVR S (cosworth engine), TVR Chimaera 400 and currently a 4.7 and a speed six Cerb. I would estimate my bills in that time other than routing servicing/ tyres/ brakes as follows.
TVR S - o/s manifold and indicator stalk column - circa 40 quid. Fitting the Cossie engine was my choice and nothing wrong with old one so I wont include that, along with that was upgraded brakes/ cooling etc.
Cerb and 400 cost me nothing and I owned them about 10 months used as dailies
Latest Chimaera (custom 4.7) ran slightly hot in traffic last August so I bought a new radiator - I havent fitted it yet.
It had the outriggers and clutch done before I bought it - I am tempted to just rip out the full chassis and have it restored / galvanised so that might cost a few quid but still well short of 6k in 11 years!
I would say 6k is pretty high for a Chimaera to be honest, I have put nearly 80k on TVR's for under 200 quid (not including servicing which is still cheaper than my daily)
Edited by james280779 on Tuesday 18th June 01:06
I suspect that the consensus on PH will be to go for the Nissan, assuming you can't be talked into a MX5/TVR/911/something else totally different from what you actually asked. If the choice is straight between the two cars you posted, I'd go for the Nissan if you want to enjoy driving it.
Both look beautiful, and I think the Mk1 TT is now actually quite cool as the trendsetters have moved onto the Mk2. I'd suggest over time (i.e. 10 years or so) it will become a quite sought-after car, and if it is genuinely 'one of the best in the country' then you could be onto a good thing long term, even if it is overpriced now. Obviously that would demand you looking after it but hey. Why not buy both, drive the Nissan and store the Audi...?
Both look beautiful, and I think the Mk1 TT is now actually quite cool as the trendsetters have moved onto the Mk2. I'd suggest over time (i.e. 10 years or so) it will become a quite sought-after car, and if it is genuinely 'one of the best in the country' then you could be onto a good thing long term, even if it is overpriced now. Obviously that would demand you looking after it but hey. Why not buy both, drive the Nissan and store the Audi...?
Baryonyx said:
I didn't realise they made a manual TT V6? Unless this is a modification?
Audi definitely made manual V6s. In terms of percentages though its around 80% dsg 20% manual.I was totally against getting a dsg vee. Although ive grown to enjoy mine. Finding a manual in the spec I wanted was taking too long.
9k is a tad salty for that v6 tt even with the mods. You can get an immaculate quattro sport at that price point. I will say the TT though but im biased.
Big Tav said:
It's far more than just a TT.
It's really not though, is it. The majority of that quote is just a sales pitch, and it certainly doesn't turn the car into a Cayman when it comes to the driving experience. Out of the two, would go for the Z if you value driving more, the TT if you value design and quality. Although neither would be on my shopping list.
Would also try and drive one of each (model, not particularly that car), just so you have a vague idea of what you're in for.
The reason I like these two cars is I wanted a coupe, both cars a really well modified and are generally known to be very reliable. I think both cars look fantastic.
I have driven a TT Sport (stock) and thought it was a great car so I am presuming this would be a lot better.
I used to have a Base 350z 04 Roadster 276hp (so no Brembos) back in Australia and I really liked it. This 350 has a lot of nice upgrades and I love the look of it. If I bought a stock facelift for 7k. I would only have to buy wheels and exhaust and I'd be at 9 anyway.
I thought of a Boxster but I'd only want a 987. For this money it would be a standard car and it always wish I had a S with 19's but that is a £13,000+ car.
A 996 is nice but too risky for me. So it a TVR
I have driven a TT Sport (stock) and thought it was a great car so I am presuming this would be a lot better.
I used to have a Base 350z 04 Roadster 276hp (so no Brembos) back in Australia and I really liked it. This 350 has a lot of nice upgrades and I love the look of it. If I bought a stock facelift for 7k. I would only have to buy wheels and exhaust and I'd be at 9 anyway.
I thought of a Boxster but I'd only want a 987. For this money it would be a standard car and it always wish I had a S with 19's but that is a £13,000+ car.
A 996 is nice but too risky for me. So it a TVR
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