RE: Murray T.50 confirmed as lightest hypercar ever

[anonymous-user]

shalmaneser said:

I always thought the nugget about the lfa must have been bullst, a stepper motor can do well in excess of 270 degrees of movement in under 0.3 seconds.

I always thought it sounded like a Clarksonism, ie sounds good but likely untrue.

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

Sam.M said:

shalmaneser said:

I always thought the nugget about the lfa must have been bullst, a stepper motor can do well in excess of 270 degrees of movement in under 0.3 seconds.

I always thought it sounded like a Clarksonism, ie sounds good but likely untrue.

Maybe so, but it wasn't Clarkson who said it.

Anyway, I've just watched the Harry's Garage video of this..... What a masterpiece.

[Europa1]

shalmaneser said:

For those following along at home

Thanks for this - I just happened to be on this thread just before the countdown started! I had no idea today was the day.

I did have to chuckle at the preamble - since when has an industrial unit just outside Guildford been an "ultra-secure facility" or however Franchitti described it? That plus the security guard from the local am-dram society checking his earpiece and clipboard...

The launch proper was great, however.

[hyphen]

Harrys Garage

[hyphen]

A very inoffensive looking car, but classy. And its got the cool fan!

Engine looks impressive.

[shalmaneser]

Europa1 said:

shalmaneser said:

For those following along at home

Thanks for this - I just happened to be on this thread just before the countdown started! I had no idea today was the day.

I did have to chuckle at the preamble - since when has an industrial unit just outside Guildford been an "ultra-secure facility" or however Franchitti described it? That plus the security guard from the local am-dram society checking his earpiece and clipboard...

The launch proper was great, however.

That was cheesy but once they got into the meat of it I enjoyed it very much.

I'm really not a hyper/supercar fan but I'm drinking the kool-aid on this one. It's what I'd do if I had the cash I reckon.

[Sway]

I'm really hoping the "homage office" was a bit of a subtle piss take of Maranello...

[Equus]

shalmaneser said:

That was cheesy but once they got into the meat of it I enjoyed it very much.

The whole Dario Franchitti video was laughably, nauseatingly cheesy and sycophantic.

Harry's Garage set a much better tone, got much more out of Murray, and gave much better technical content.

[Jezza30]

Clearly a deeply impressive machine with engineering genius abound but it did feel a bit like harking back to the F1 everywhere; sounded to me 'if they are now £xx millions to buy, here car hoarders is son of F1 for a mere £2.xm's'

I'd sooner have an AM Valkyrie for an out there hypercar..

[SidewaysSi]

Franchitti is really terrible. And it seems Gordon does use his Alpine for commuting.

[hyphen]

Jezza30 said:

I'd sooner have an AM Valkyrie for an out there hypercar..

Then you are not the target buyer... This isn't for driving to tracks and shows, it has luggage space for your road trips.

Its a 'daily' hypercar, not a weekend hypercar.

[MyV10BarksAndBites]

Max_Torque said:

BigChiefmuffinAgain said:

It just seems such a leap forward from what everyone else has managed delivered by a very small team on a low budget.

To large degree, it's actually a leap backwards. It's a pretty simple car, and is resolutely "old skool" putting low mass and driver enjoyment ahead of other considerations. Yes, it'll be nicely engineered (like the old F1) but today in 2020, nothing i can see is actually anything "new"?

I would say you are both right... (The car is still a tech fest tho)..

And by gum do I love it.... This is what Mclaren should have been...

I love it, I love it, I love it.... Oh and did I tell you that I LOVE IT!!!

[MyV10BarksAndBites]

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

Anyway, I've just watched the Harry's Garage video of this..... What a masterpiece.

Yep...

[epom]

It could be terrible.... just saying.

[anonymous-user]

epom said:

It could be terrible.... just saying.

I'm sure it'll be bloody awful.

[Equus]

Jezza30 said:

Clearly a deeply impressive machine with engineering genius abound but it did feel a bit like harking back to the F1 everywhere; sounded to me 'if they are now £xx millions to buy, here car hoarders is son of F1 for a mere £2.xm's'

I'd sooner have an AM Valkyrie for an out there hypercar..

It's an impressively engineered machine, but it does rather feel like F1b rather than moving the game forward in any fundamental way.

[Sway]

Sam.M said:

epom said:

It could be terrible.... just saying.

I'm sure it'll be bloody awful.

I'm absolutely certain too.

Which is why, being the magnanimous and self sacrificing chap that I am, I'll suffer to accept any that the owners are just so disappointed in they can't bear to look at them ever again.

I'll take that pain for them.

[hyphen]

epom said:

It could be terrible.... just saying.

But we are talking probabilities based on the information we already know.

Probability it may not be as good as 'expected' will always be significant. But probability of it being 'terrible' are low.

[anonymous-user]

hyphen said:

epom said:

It could be terrible.... just saying.

But we are talking probabilities based on the information we already know.

Probability it may not be as good as 'expected' will always be significant. But probability of it being 'terrible' are low.

I'm 99.9% of enthusiasts offered a drive in it would come away thinking it's the best car they'd ever driven... just saying.

[kiseca]

Sam.M said:

hyphen said:

epom said:

It could be terrible.... just saying.

But we are talking probabilities based on the information we already know.

Probability it may not be as good as 'expected' will always be significant. But probability of it being 'terrible' are low.

I'm 99.9% of enthusiasts offered a drive in it would come away thinking it's the best car they'd ever driven... just saying.

Not too sure. From memory, the F1's reputation when it was new was quite different to what it is now. It was held in awe, certainly, and partly for its rarity, but for those journalists that did get to drive it, it seemed the performance was what made the impression, because it was a league above anything else available at the time. All that power, with that little weight, meant it was a step up from even the F40, 959, XJ220, EB110....

But as a drivers car, I don't remember many journalists being quite so blown away with the feel, feedback and particularly the unassisted brakes. I think things have changed now as compared to modern cars, the F1 would be sensory overload and the performance is still monstrous even today, but back when the F40 was around, I got the impression most would have picked the Ferrari as the driver's car for a day's fun in the country. I think that with the passage of time, the F40 has kept that reputation but the F1's has grown.

So it all depends how well GM's idea of a driver's car translates to everyone else's.