Can't Drink Wine Anymore
Discussion
CAPP0 said:
Interesting thread. I've been a regular wine drinker for as long as I can recall, but MrsC & I drank bottle of red last Wednesday and I feel like I've had a hangover ever since, including this morning.
I left alcohol alone for a week, and the hangover symptoms seemed to subside, so today after working outside all day I fancied a beer at about 4.30. I had one can of Proper Job, and then at about 9.30 I thought a small scotch might be in order. A small finger of single malt, and less than an hour later I had a properly thick head.Openfoodfacts.org says that the beer only has water, malt, hops and yeast in it, no mention of preservatives. I've just looked up the scotch (it was "only" an M&S Speyside, discovered by accident but it's quite light and rather nice) and that contains......sulphites. So maybe that's what's behind this. Annoyingly there are only a few nips gone from the bottle! Why would scotch need preservatives anyway?
https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/press/news/160414a
The big problem is that Sulphites are prevalent in many processed foods that need to be preserved, so the amounts in wine and beers simply add to the problem, but giving up drinking does not guarantee that you will not suffer from the side-effects of Sulphites.
The general rule of thumb is that the cheaper the bottle of wine, the higher the Sulphite level is likely to be. The acceptable range is between 10 - 200mg/ltr - a huge variation.
You can buy Sulphite-free wines, but they are not cheap
https://www.theplacetowine.com/accueil/145-aoc-bla...
The big problem is that Sulphites are prevalent in many processed foods that need to be preserved, so the amounts in wine and beers simply add to the problem, but giving up drinking does not guarantee that you will not suffer from the side-effects of Sulphites.
The general rule of thumb is that the cheaper the bottle of wine, the higher the Sulphite level is likely to be. The acceptable range is between 10 - 200mg/ltr - a huge variation.
You can buy Sulphite-free wines, but they are not cheap
https://www.theplacetowine.com/accueil/145-aoc-bla...
I have been a life long enthusiastic drinker
About five years ago in preparation for a Saharan motorcycle trip I went on a get fit /weight loss campaign & abstained from all alcohol for about six months,
I resumed drinking alcohol after it was over & found that wine made me vomit, even half a glass.
As soon as it was inside me my body wanted it out & quickly.
Beer & spirits are no problem, in large quantities at times.
I now can’t even bear the smell of some wine, it can make me retch.
About five years ago in preparation for a Saharan motorcycle trip I went on a get fit /weight loss campaign & abstained from all alcohol for about six months,
I resumed drinking alcohol after it was over & found that wine made me vomit, even half a glass.
As soon as it was inside me my body wanted it out & quickly.
Beer & spirits are no problem, in large quantities at times.
I now can’t even bear the smell of some wine, it can make me retch.
MC Bodge said:
I suspect that I always had it, but it seems to have become worse for me in recent years. 25 years experience.
I believe you need to consider your whole diet. I have slight asthma and was always surprised that certain foods caused wheezing. When we were working, we would frequently buy things like Tesco Finest Moussaka and a bottle of cheap Sicilian red. Often caused problems. The market for cook-chill has now got even bigger with things like M&S eat out for £10.We all know that if we cooked a Lasagne, and then left it in the fridge for a couple of weeks covered with clingfilm it would be pretty manky when we come to eat it. Preservatives make a big difference and they are everywhere. 25-years ago, they were less prevalent because we ate canned, or frozen food / ingredients. Look for the E numbers 220 - 228. It is the combined effects of Sulphites from food and drink that is causing more people to become affected.
We are now retired in France and so have time to cook everything from fresh ingredients. All our wines are AOC. Consequently, I use 25% of the inhaler that I used to and now rarely ever have headaches after meals and drinks.
We are the sum of what we eat and drink.
rdjohn said:
I believe you need to consider your whole diet. I have slight asthma and was always surprised that certain foods caused wheezing. When we were working, we would frequently buy things like Tesco Finest Moussaka and a bottle of cheap Sicilian red. Often caused problems. The market for cook-chill has now got even bigger with things like M&S eat out for £10.
We all know that if we cooked a Lasagne, and then left it in the fridge for a couple of weeks covered with clingfilm it would be pretty manky when we come to eat it. Preservatives make a big difference and they are everywhere. 25-years ago, they were less prevalent because we ate canned, or frozen food / ingredients. Look for the E numbers 220 - 228. It is the combined effects of Sulphites from food and drink that is causing more people to become affected.
We are now retired in France and so have time to cook everything from fresh ingredients. All our wines are AOC. Consequently, I use 25% of the inhaler that I used to and now rarely ever have headaches after meals and drinks.
We are the sum of what we eat and drink.
Fair point, although we seldom eat ready meals. Most of our meals are cooked from fresh ingredients. I eat plenty of fruit, veg, nuts etc and I don't eat snacks. We can't know how everything is produced, of course.We all know that if we cooked a Lasagne, and then left it in the fridge for a couple of weeks covered with clingfilm it would be pretty manky when we come to eat it. Preservatives make a big difference and they are everywhere. 25-years ago, they were less prevalent because we ate canned, or frozen food / ingredients. Look for the E numbers 220 - 228. It is the combined effects of Sulphites from food and drink that is causing more people to become affected.
We are now retired in France and so have time to cook everything from fresh ingredients. All our wines are AOC. Consequently, I use 25% of the inhaler that I used to and now rarely ever have headaches after meals and drinks.
We are the sum of what we eat and drink.
I am fit and healthy and don't suffer from any other allergies (only mild hay fever) or asthma.
Air quality may not be great in Manchester.
rdjohn said:
I believe you need to consider your whole diet. I have slight asthma and was always surprised that certain foods caused wheezing. When we were working, we would frequently buy things like Tesco Finest Moussaka and a bottle of cheap Sicilian red. Often caused problems. The market for cook-chill has now got even bigger with things like M&S eat out for £10.
We all know that if we cooked a Lasagne, and then left it in the fridge for a couple of weeks covered with clingfilm it would be pretty manky when we come to eat it. Preservatives make a big difference and they are everywhere. 25-years ago, they were less prevalent because we ate canned, or frozen food / ingredients. Look for the E numbers 220 - 228. It is the combined effects of Sulphites from food and drink that is causing more people to become affected.
We are now retired in France and so have time to cook everything from fresh ingredients. All our wines are AOC. Consequently, I use 25% of the inhaler that I used to and now rarely ever have headaches after meals and drinks.
We are the sum of what we eat and drink.
I think you need to be careful wrt your cause and effect. I suspect climate affects your asthma (it does mine) far more than diet.We all know that if we cooked a Lasagne, and then left it in the fridge for a couple of weeks covered with clingfilm it would be pretty manky when we come to eat it. Preservatives make a big difference and they are everywhere. 25-years ago, they were less prevalent because we ate canned, or frozen food / ingredients. Look for the E numbers 220 - 228. It is the combined effects of Sulphites from food and drink that is causing more people to become affected.
We are now retired in France and so have time to cook everything from fresh ingredients. All our wines are AOC. Consequently, I use 25% of the inhaler that I used to and now rarely ever have headaches after meals and drinks.
We are the sum of what we eat and drink.
MC Bodge said:
Fair point, although we seldom eat ready meals. Most of our meals are cooked from fresh ingredients. I eat plenty of fruit, veg, nuts etc and I don't eat snacks. We can't know how everything is produced, of course.
I am fit and healthy and don't suffer from any other allergies (only mild hay fever) or asthma.
Air quality may not be great in Manchester.
I agree, we are what we eat, drink and breathe.I am fit and healthy and don't suffer from any other allergies (only mild hay fever) or asthma.
Air quality may not be great in Manchester.
Summers in rural France are literally a breeze, but returning to Knutsford under the flight path into Manchester Airport, my breathing can deteriorate quite quickly, so needing much more inhaler.
We tend to bring wine with us for home use, but I rarely drink pub, or cheap restaurant wine as I know it’s a route to an instant headache. I really miss hand-pumped beers so it’s a very good excuse to enjoy those - again without any adverse effect.
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