Porsche 991 parts scam
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Kent Border Kenny

2,219 posts

89 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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daytona111r said:
I don't use Ebay, but the only think I can think of going forward is next time take a photo of what you are sending with the address it's being sent to
While it may not be enough I’d probably do this too, or even take a short video clip of me putting each item into the package.

fozzymandeus

1,100 posts

175 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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I had this problem with a Paul Smith shirt I sold a few years ago. Buyer insisted the sizing was crazy and messaged me again and again about it. I had stipulated that the item was sold as seen and no refunds so I duly refused to refund. I think I was on strong ground as I was selling second hand clothes; I guess you’d have to be quite canny with the description with second hand electronics. Everything I’ve ever sold on eBay was stipulated no refunds. He threatened negative feedback but never did.

Turn7

25,711 posts

250 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Sorry to hear youve lost cash, buts its the exact reason I dont bother with ebay anymore.

Specialist groups on FB or Forums, and cash on collection only.......


eltax91

10,756 posts

235 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Sir Bagalot said:
I might know of someone that did exactly that, and no it wasn't me.

BMW F10 bits. Birmingham address, claimed different parts, no good, returned a pile of bits that was ste.

Used slightly different pictures and a totally different location to sell same bits. Within 4 hours same buyer bit. Paypal account emptied, waited a few days with a sad excuse and then sent items he had sent. Buyer wasn't happy at all.
But surely when they receive their pile of st back that they conned you with last time, they’ll just return for a refund and PayPal/ eBay will side with them and return the money. This doesn’t add up

SpeckledJim

34,061 posts

282 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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eltax91 said:
Sir Bagalot said:
I might know of someone that did exactly that, and no it wasn't me.

BMW F10 bits. Birmingham address, claimed different parts, no good, returned a pile of bits that was ste.

Used slightly different pictures and a totally different location to sell same bits. Within 4 hours same buyer bit. Paypal account emptied, waited a few days with a sad excuse and then sent items he had sent. Buyer wasn't happy at all.
But surely when they receive their pile of st back that they conned you with last time, they’ll just return for a refund and PayPal/ eBay will side with them and return the money. This doesn’t add up
He’d emptied his PayPal account, so nothing to take.

Albeit that will cause a headache if he ever wants a PayPal account in the future.

Paddymcc

1,299 posts

220 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Had the worlds dumbest scammer try this on with me last month when he bought a laptop from us.

He claimed it arrived with a completely smashed screen and wouldnt turn on. The problem was he returned his broken laptop with his hard drive inside with all his documents inside showing he works for Citizens Advice Bureau and is doing a post grad Solicitor course in London. This hard drive was also left signed into all his email accounts and a glance through this revealed he was doing this once or twice a month to various sellers, even buying broken electronics and swopping them with working items from other sellers.

I lodged a complaint with his local Police and rang him to work which he refused to answer. Once we sent a picture message showing the evidence, police complaint number, action fraud number and what we were about to do with said information with his employer and school he was attending he wasnt long calling back and sending us our money via paypal friends and family. The call was quite amusing as he blamed his brother, cousin and then his nieice for using his ebay account.

He even had the temerity to message us saying how he was going to destroy our reputation and lodge a GDPR complaint after we took a while to return his broken laptop. Now that January is looking to be pretty quiet ill be making sure his school, place of employment and Law society are aware of his fraudulent activity.

eltax91

10,756 posts

235 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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SpeckledJim said:
He’d emptied his PayPal account, so nothing to take.

Albeit that will cause a headache if he ever wants a PayPal account in the future.
They’ll just take it from his associated bank account/ credit card. Even if un-associated they’ll do so. Otherwise everyone everywhere would pull a scam on PayPal

Edited by eltax91 on Monday 28th December 21:31

SpeckledJim

34,061 posts

282 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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eltax91 said:
SpeckledJim said:
He’d emptied his PayPal account, so nothing to take.

Albeit that will cause a headache if he ever wants a PayPal account in the future.
They’ll just take it from his associated bank account/ credit card. Even if un-associated they’ll do so. Otherwise everyone everywhere would pull a scam on PayPal

Edited by eltax91 on Monday 28th December 21:31
Genuine question:

How could PayPal have an enduring power to dip into a bank account that used to be associated with a PayPal account?

Otherwise, how could anyone ever sever any links to them?

smile

wjwren

4,484 posts

164 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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SpeckledJim said:
Genuine question:

How could PayPal have an enduring power to dip into a bank account that used to be associated with a PayPal account?

Otherwise, how could anyone ever sever any links to them?

smile
You can't remove your bank account from a PayPal account if any case is open against you. They have you by the short and curlies. Then bailiffs at your door.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

215 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Send a few glitter bombs, then whatever else takes your fancy to them.

Steamer

14,180 posts

242 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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wjwren said:
SpeckledJim said:
Genuine question:

How could PayPal have an enduring power to dip into a bank account that used to be associated with a PayPal account?

Otherwise, how could anyone ever sever any links to them?

smile
You can't remove your bank account from a PayPal account if any case is open against you. They have you by the short and curlies. Then bailiffs at your door.
yes they've already thought about that one.

Your mate will still end up out of pocket eventually.



wjwren

4,484 posts

164 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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I buy but hardly ever sell on eBay. If I do then it's local collection.

I went on a training course once and a chap was there who worked from argos. He said he had dealt with couple cases of people buying led tv's and returning a box of house bricks. They had to issue a refund as it couldn't be proven that it wasn't done in the shop storeroom. He said he knew full well these s had done this and had the audacity to just return house bricks for a new sony tv.

Big Rig

8,995 posts

216 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Which part of or Birmingham was the part delivered to OP? I can tell you a fair bit by the area it was posted to. PM if you prefer.

Turn7

25,711 posts

250 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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dudleybloke said:
Send a few glitter bombs, then whatever else takes your fancy to them.
I have a need to do this, any recommendations ?

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

215 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Turn7 said:
I have a need to do this, any recommendations ?
No recommendations but if you Google glitterbomb UK you will find several sites that offer the service.

Turn7

25,711 posts

250 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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dudleybloke said:
Turn7 said:
I have a need to do this, any recommendations ?
No recommendations but if you Google glitterbomb UK you will find several sites that offer the service.
Do they do one that sprays Turds as well ?

evil.edna

306 posts

99 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Paddymcc said:
Had the worlds dumbest scammer try this on with me last month when he bought a laptop from us.

He claimed it arrived with a completely smashed screen and wouldnt turn on. The problem was he returned his broken laptop with his hard drive inside with all his documents inside showing he works for Citizens Advice Bureau and is doing a post grad Solicitor course in London. This hard drive was also left signed into all his email accounts and a glance through this revealed he was doing this once or twice a month to various sellers, even buying broken electronics and swopping them with working items from other sellers.

I lodged a complaint with his local Police and rang him to work which he refused to answer. Once we sent a picture message showing the evidence, police complaint number, action fraud number and what we were about to do with said information with his employer and school he was attending he wasnt long calling back and sending us our money via paypal friends and family. The call was quite amusing as he blamed his brother, cousin and then his nieice for using his ebay account.

He even had the temerity to message us saying how he was going to destroy our reputation and lodge a GDPR complaint after we took a while to return his broken laptop. Now that January is looking to be pretty quiet ill be making sure his school, place of employment and Law society are aware of his fraudulent activity.
I would consider it a civic duty to grass-up that individual, before they make it into the legal system. Imagine the damage he could wreak as a dishonest solicitor.

LarJammer

2,425 posts

239 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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Just to add my own experience- I sold a car part on ebay (coincidentally also for a porsche) and the guy said it arrived broken. Told him to claim through Royal mail, he insisted I pay for collection and refund him. I checked the ebay rules and advised him of the correct method for returning a damaged item (yes, I knew it was all a scam at this point). He then started a claim against me saying the part had not arrived. I forwarded all emails to ebay proving he had received it.
They sided with him, took the funds out of my account AND charged me an extra £15 for costs. I'm now down £150 & would have been better off throwing it in the bin. Which is precisely what I do now. FU ebay.

sixor8

8,512 posts

297 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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You have his address, send him all sorts.........

The spinner of plates

18,084 posts

229 months

Monday 28th December 2020
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rxe said:
It’s why I never sell anything on eBay unless it is cash on collection.
Agree 100%