Has the Rolex bubble finally burst? Perhaps it has
Has the Rolex bubble finally burst? Perhaps it has
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Stu-nph26

2,139 posts

122 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Soleith said:
I got the batman earlier this year, didn't take long, only a couple of months I think.
Where from I've been waiting ages for mine?

Soleith

564 posts

106 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Stu-nph26 said:
Where from I've been waiting ages for mine?
Watches of Switzerland, Broadgate.

Buster73

5,398 posts

170 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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McMoose said:
amidoingthisright said:
Was in town today so popped into the AD for a little amusement, 5-6 years wait for an Air King - one of their most popular pieces apparently… Presume ’my face didn’t fit’. As they’re not going for too much over list I’ll probably end up going grey. Doesn’t feel right having to traipse round all the local AD’s hoping one of them will take pity on me and ‘allow’ me to buy one.
Commiserations on your face not fitting. The Airking is actually a decent looking watch. Infinitely less common or tacky than a GMT or Submariner.
Never seen a Rolex Submariner described as being tacky before.

Nothing tacky about them at all imho.

Deep

2,382 posts

260 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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PaulJC84 said:
Collected an Airking today, exactly 4 weeks since I noted interest in that model. No previous buying history.
You might want to delete your post lol.
There's some bloke on here who has a breakdown every few months because no one will even put his name down for an Air King

RSTurboPaul

12,153 posts

275 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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Deep said:
PaulJC84 said:
Collected an Airking today, exactly 4 weeks since I noted interest in that model. No previous buying history.
You might want to delete your post lol.
There's some bloke on here who has a breakdown every few months because no one will even put his name down for an Air King
Not sure the chap's responses can be defined as a 'breakdown'; rather, they appear to acknowledge the emotional aspect of making a large/expensive purchase (which is exactly what 'brand names' seek to invoke and rely on when overcharging for items that obviously cost far less to make than they are sold for) and the frustrations felt when receiving treatment that is arguably pointless gatekeeping.

It seems inappropriate to mock his feelings 'because internet'.

iphonedyou

9,946 posts

174 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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RSTurboPaul said:
Not sure the chap's responses can be defined as a 'breakdown'; rather, they appear to acknowledge the emotional aspect of making a large/expensive purchase (which is exactly what 'brand names' seek to invoke and rely on when overcharging for items that obviously cost far less to make than they are sold for) and the frustrations felt when receiving treatment that is arguably pointless gatekeeping.

It seems inappropriate to mock his feelings 'because internet'.
Can't argue with that. Nicely put.

mikey_b

2,362 posts

62 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Watchfinder have a 2020 rootbeer with box and papers up for £15500 currently. That is showing as 'new price', which almost certainly means a reduction.

Yes it is still over list, but by less than £2k which is way down on the peak. To my mind, it looks a lot better value than the BLNR ones they have, many of which are not far off £14k.

Wheelspinning

1,984 posts

47 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Yesterday, I recieved a call from my AD and was offered 4 watches; thats a first.

Full gold Sub date blue face / bezel, Cookie Monster, 2 tone Sky Dweller and a 42 yachtmaster.

Tbf, all 4 of them are far too expensive for what they are, and declined.

Things are definitely changing.

dom9

8,421 posts

226 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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What's the RRP on a cookie monster? Bit of a grail watch for me!

Edited by dom9 on Friday 13th October 15:12

Nurburgsingh

5,356 posts

255 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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dom9 said:
What's the RRP on a cookie monster? Bit of a trail watch for me!
Whats a Cookie Monster??


This was al so much easier when all you had was a Pepsi!!

Louis Balfour

28,176 posts

239 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Nurburgsingh said:
dom9 said:
What's the RRP on a cookie monster? Bit of a trail watch for me!
Whats a Cookie Monster??


This was al so much easier when all you had was a Pepsi!!
Chunky sports watch, black dial and bright blue ceramic bezel.

mikey_b

2,362 posts

62 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Louis Balfour said:
Nurburgsingh said:
dom9 said:
What's the RRP on a cookie monster? Bit of a trail watch for me!
Whats a Cookie Monster??


This was al so much easier when all you had was a Pepsi!!
Chunky sports watch, black dial and bright blue ceramic bezel.
£35300 according to Rolex’s UK website. It’s a precious metal model, white gold only though.

RSTurboPaul

12,153 posts

275 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Louis Balfour said:
Nurburgsingh said:
dom9 said:
What's the RRP on a cookie monster? Bit of a trail watch for me!
Whats a Cookie Monster??


This was al so much easier when all you had was a Pepsi!!
Chunky sports watch, black dial and bright blue ceramic bezel.
This one?

https://www.dmarge.com/mark-wahlberg-white-gold-ro...


It appears to be Rolex stealing the idea from an individual modder, who AIUI created what got called 'the shark' by swapping the white gold/blue model's bezel onto a black No Date Sub:

https://www.everestbands.com/blogs/bezel-barrel/a-...

https://timeandtidewatches.com/eric-ku-rolex-subma...

I am certain he got absolutely ripped a new one by some of the Rolex fanbois on the forums for doing that - with some people claiming 'it's not a Rolex now' rolleyes - people who, I'm sure, are now eagerly lining up for the 'official' version... lol

Nurburgsingh

5,356 posts

255 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Ahhh… thanks

Still a bit confused, given all the others are named after drinks why is this not called the “shandy bass” or the “Fosters” ?

gregs656

11,805 posts

198 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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mikey_b said:
Watchfinder have a 2020 rootbeer with box and papers up for £15500 currently. That is showing as 'new price', which almost certainly means a reduction.

Yes it is still over list, but by less than £2k which is way down on the peak. To my mind, it looks a lot better value than the BLNR ones they have, many of which are not far off £14k.
I think we are now comfortably within the zone where the reward for flipping many of the sports watches is no longer worth it. You may lose money as the dealer margin is so thin.


Adrian W

14,809 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Had my name down for a Pepsi at Goldsmiths in Chelmsford since the day it came out, Goldsmiths have never had any of my money, I’ll be waiting for ever

Wills2

26,625 posts

192 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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mikey_b said:
Louis Balfour said:
Nurburgsingh said:
dom9 said:
What's the RRP on a cookie monster? Bit of a trail watch for me!
Whats a Cookie Monster??


This was al so much easier when all you had was a Pepsi!!
Chunky sports watch, black dial and bright blue ceramic bezel.
£35300 according to Rolex’s UK website. It’s a precious metal model, white gold only though.
And it's a 10k loss as you walk out of the shop so flippers will not be interested, lovely watch though.

Louis Balfour

28,176 posts

239 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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Adrian W said:
Had my name down for a Pepsi at Goldsmiths in Chelmsford since the day it came out, Goldsmiths have never had any of my money, I’ll be waiting for ever
I put my name down for a Pepsi in Nottingham last Tuesday at 1.20pm. By 1.25, I had a Pepsi.



Jamescrs

5,434 posts

82 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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gregs656 said:
I think we are now comfortably within the zone where the reward for flipping many of the sports watches is no longer worth it. You may lose money as the dealer margin is so thin.
Knowing how Watchfinder work on margins I would think they paid under RRP to get the Rootbeer into stock in the first place so no benefit to flippers to buy a Rootbeer now

Maxf

8,434 posts

258 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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I don’t know at what point it all gets counter productive for Rolex (well, the ADs mainly).

I’d like a non-date submariner and was near a big AD the other day so thought I’d pop in and get on the list - then I remembered the stupid dance you need to do to be allowed to go on the list, though sod it and had lunch instead - I’ll get one at list eventually anyway in this climate (or close enough not to worry).