Russia Invades Ukraine. Volume 5

[bazza white]

borcy said:

https://x.com/ukraine_map/status/18244582913109732...

Couple of pictures of the damaged bridges

And a nice video to go with it

https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1824507511229...

[hidetheelephants]

Fairly big boom, someone delivering an LGB with very large testicles? Most likely a JDAM.

[TGCOTF-dewey]

hidetheelephants said:

Fairly big boom, someone delivering an LGB with very large testicles? Most likely a JDAM.

I think the big tessies belong to the SF unit painting the target

[hidetheelephants]

Wasn't the painting being done by the drone?

[Evanivitch]

hidetheelephants said:

Fairly big boom, someone delivering an LGB with very large testicles? Most likely a JDAM.

Why LGB? What cam Ukraine drop a JDAM with? F16?

[CarlosFandango11]

TGCOTF-dewey said:

hidetheelephants said:

Fairly big boom, someone delivering an LGB with very large testicles? Most likely a JDAM.

I think the big tessies belong to the SF unit painting the target

Definitely not a LGB.

Most likely a HIMARS.

[pinchmeimdreamin]

I’m thinking outside the box

[Evanivitch]

CarlosFandango11 said:

Definitely not a LGB.

Most likely a HIMARS.

HIMARS is a platform...

[hidetheelephants]

Explosion is pretty big to be a GMLRS, they walloped the road bridge at Kherson with multiple GMLRS and it just poked holes in the roadbed.

[borcy]

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-economy-all...


Looks like the banking options are reducing for Russia.

[Cheib]

aeropilot said:

FourWheelDrift said:

king arthur said:

Glushkovsky bridge down.
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1824452...

Both bridges now down behind Russian positions trapping them between the river Seym and Ukrainian forces.

Two down, one to go.

Anyone would think the Ukranians spent months planning this. Today’s Telegraph Podcast had a bit of detail about the EW Ukraine used…basically requires a lot of expertise to pull it off…would have requires resources deployed between the various troop concentrations. So a lot of intel needed.

[jules_s]

Cheib said:

Anyone would think the Ukranians spent months planning this. Today’s Telegraph Podcast had a bit of detail about the EW Ukraine used…basically requires a lot of expertise to pull it off…would have requires resources deployed between the various troop concentrations. So a lot of intel needed.

Genius in its simplicity -if they succeed it's a blinder

[sisu]

The Russian telegram chatter is bracing for a second thrust in the Donbas. The idea that Ukraine is just going to cut them off from the North is laughed at because they don't think this is the real target but a feint.

On a broader outlook, they still don't have power in Vladivostok. The trains from North Korea and China are a bottle neck. So they can't switch routes or divert energy as its a dead end of the 700kV network. They will be slowly switching it on, using lower voltage lines. But that is assuming there are able to do this without cooking the other transformers as everything is on drawing power.
In theory they can use the coal fired steam locomotives as the North Koreans still operate them.
But there are other issues with the rail system in Russia at the moment and it is a digital system. A slight oversight is once you are inside Russia you can switch anywhere within the Russian network.

I know there is a belief that the Russian rail logistics are able to be repaired and diverted somewhere else over a large country. Given that they hacked into the road traffic system from outside Russia this could be exciting logistically.

[Cheib]

Article in The Times this morning say that the UK has asked the US for permission for Ukraine to use Storm Shadow in Russia itself, been waiting a month for an answer apparently. There are apparently four NATO countries who all contribute to decisions like this UK, US, France, and one unnamed (I assume Germany).

US blocks Ukraine from firing British missiles into Russia

https://www.thetimes.com/article/6e40276b-8414-485...

[Digga]

Cheib said:

Article in The Times this morning say that the UK has asked the US for permission for Ukraine to use Storm Shadow in Russia itself, been waiting a month for an answer apparently. There are apparently four NATO countries who all contribute to decisions like this UK, US, France, and one unnamed (I assume Germany).

US blocks Ukraine from firing British missiles into Russia

https://www.thetimes.com/article/6e40276b-8414-485...

Unfortunately there is a significant chunk of the US population already wetting the bed about ‘nuclear war with Russia’ so the subject is emotive.

I’d say it may require as sort of asking for forgiveness rather than explicit permission. Keep the USA fully in the loop, but give them the ability to fully deny having officially sanctioned it. In other words JFDI because Russia has been doing similar since day 1 of ‘3’.

[GliderRider]

Cheib said:

Article in The Times this morning say that the UK has asked the US for permission for Ukraine to use Storm Shadow in Russia itself, been waiting a month for an answer apparently. There are apparently four NATO countries who all contribute to decisions like this UK, US, France, and one unnamed (I assume Germany).

US blocks Ukraine from firing British missiles into Russia

https://www.thetimes.com/article/6e40276b-8414-485...

Given the US weapons that are being offered and used, it wouldn't surprise me if the Americans don't want a largely British/French weapon getting all the credit when they could be selling their own missiles around the world after this off the back of a real world demonstration.

[borcy]

https://www.railfreight.com/railfreight/2024/08/15...


Rail problems for Russia mount

[Wills2]

Evanivitch said:

JNW1 said:

Well Churchill was a consistent critic of the appeasement policy pursued by successive UK governments during the 1930's and Chamberlain was PM of one of those for several years. Churchill was also scathing about the Munich Agreement which Chamberlain brokered and signed with Hitler.

But as I said above, I just used Chamberlain to illustrate my view on appeasement - if you feel it's unfair to describe him in those terms fair enough, just substitute any appeaser for Chamberlain and the point stands.

And yet Churchill made Chamberlain a vital part of his government and war cabinet.

Churchill was a critic of appeasement, but he didn't look.fown on the man himself (though they had very different personalities).

"Until ill health forced him to resign on 22 September 1940, Chamberlain was an important member of the war cabinet as Lord President of the Council, heading the government in Churchill's absence. His support for Churchill proved vital during the May 1940 war cabinet crisis. Chamberlain died aged 71 on 9 November of cancer, six months after leaving the premiership."

Churchill had no option to have Chamberlain in his cabinet nor Lord Halifax either same with Attlee, Cripps and Bevin, he had to have the top brass from either side, but Chamberlain wasn't the man some have come to regard him as he did his best and the shadow of WW1 loomed large over the continent and no one wanted to go to war again after the decimation of an entire generation, Chamberlain's mandate was to keep the peace which he tried to do, once that had failed and war was evitable parliament turned against him and looked to Churchill as a man for one job only, after Halifax demurred.

[Evanivitch]

GliderRider said:

Given the US weapons that are being offered and used, it wouldn't surprise me if the Americans don't want a largely British/French weapon getting all the credit when they could be selling their own missiles around the world after this off the back of a real world demonstration.

American isn't allowing strategic weapons to be used within Russia either, says the article.

[aeropilot]

Looks like the Germans have done another about turn.......

https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1824759651923...