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Otispunkmeyer said:
AJLintern said:
That fake engine sound playing through the speakers sounded awful! Like some rubbish 90's arcade game. I presume that can be turned off in a menu..?
not sure about a menu but you can just disconnect it pretty easy!I patiently ran mine in and at lower revs the fake noise was OK but the moment I allowed myself to rev it out, I had never been so disappointed. Unplugged it pretty much immediately.
itcaptainslow said:
The augmented noise is also ever so slightly out of sync with the actual engine noise/speed, making it noticeably harder to heel & toe/rev match accurately.
That's completely unacceptable, I was amazed when Harry commented on it being tricky to heel&toe in the GR, as it couldn't be easier in the GT86. DuncanM said:
itcaptainslow said:
The augmented noise is also ever so slightly out of sync with the actual engine noise/speed, making it noticeably harder to heel & toe/rev match accurately.
That's completely unacceptable, I was amazed when Harry commented on it being tricky to heel&toe in the GR, as it couldn't be easier in the GT86. 
Smollet said:
It didn’t sound a bit like Scooby which is primarily what it’s based on. Iirc the sound was due to the headers not being of equal length. Correct if I’m wrong but that’s what I was told when I owned an Impreza.
Early Impreza ran unequal length headers, giving the offbeat engine note.The Newage cars had two types of system, with the Euro spec retaining unequal headers, the JDM spec cars got equal length headers.
They sound completely different, the JDM cars sound pretty epic when you rev them out, more motorbike like clean sound.
The NA engines never sound that interesting, they aren't flowing much air by comparison and OEM exhausts are very quiet. Stick a free flowing system on it and it should sound better. The GT/GR/BRZ are on equal length headers so you won't get the old school burble.
I prefer the JDM equal length length sound it's better for performance too.
Edited by 732NM on Tuesday 4th February 19:25
AJLintern said:
That fake engine sound playing through the speakers sounded awful! Like some rubbish 90's arcade game. I presume that can be turned off in a menu..?
You can buy a cable and get the Toyota Software to turn it off in the options. You can also unplug it. I bought the cable as I just wanted to change some parameters like windows down when holding down unlock etc. I have owned my GR86 for 18 months now and Harry's review was pretty much spot on. I was also looking at second hand M2's at the same time and whilst quick in a straight line you cannot get away from the weight of the thing and ultimately went down the GR86 route.
The negatives is the rev hang or whatever you want to call it. (Emissions rubbish) Which is very apparent pulling out of junctions in 1st and rev matching is hard although I have mastered it now. On the boil it really isn't a problem though. Thankfully tuners are working on the throttle maps and I think there is one available already. In Japan they even offer a new throttle map FOC at dealerships. I doubt we will get it though.
It really is a liveable Caterham and judging by the grin on his face he really liked it. Ours is used pretty much every day in all weather. Just hit 10k miles already.
He was also correct about it being really sketchy. It is very very easy to get it sideways and look like a plonker in this weather :P
BricktopST205 said:
It really is a liveable Caterham and judging by the grin on his face he really liked it. Ours is used pretty much every day in all weather. Just hit 10k miles already.
He was also correct about it being really sketchy. It is very very easy to get it sideways and look like a plonker in this weather :P
I'd very happily swap my Caterham for your GR86 at this time of year for sure! He was also correct about it being really sketchy. It is very very easy to get it sideways and look like a plonker in this weather :P
The GR86 does look like a really fun car, and I really enjoyed watching Harry's review of it for definite.
k me… did they let a 15 year old design it. It’s terrible. BricktopST205 said:
AJLintern said:
That fake engine sound playing through the speakers sounded awful! Like some rubbish 90's arcade game. I presume that can be turned off in a menu..?
You can buy a cable and get the Toyota Software to turn it off in the options. You can also unplug it. I bought the cable as I just wanted to change some parameters like windows down when holding down unlock etc. I have owned my GR86 for 18 months now and Harry's review was pretty much spot on. I was also looking at second hand M2's at the same time and whilst quick in a straight line you cannot get away from the weight of the thing and ultimately went down the GR86 route.
The negatives is the rev hang or whatever you want to call it. (Emissions rubbish) Which is very apparent pulling out of junctions in 1st and rev matching is hard although I have mastered it now. On the boil it really isn't a problem though. Thankfully tuners are working on the throttle maps and I think there is one available already. In Japan they even offer a new throttle map FOC at dealerships. I doubt we will get it though.
It really is a liveable Caterham and judging by the grin on his face he really liked it. Ours is used pretty much every day in all weather. Just hit 10k miles already.
He was also correct about it being really sketchy. It is very very easy to get it sideways and look like a plonker in this weather :P
CloudStuff said:
Well, his M5 review has dropped and I'm very surprised indeed.
I can't recall seeing him grin as much in any other video. Loved the variety of use cases it addresses. And when it came to the weight - "I'm just not noticing it". Very, very interesting viewing!
He mightn't notice it but I bet that's because the engineering underneath the car is doing some frighteningly heavy lifting to make it transparent to the driver. Impressive in a way, I guess. I can't recall seeing him grin as much in any other video. Loved the variety of use cases it addresses. And when it came to the weight - "I'm just not noticing it". Very, very interesting viewing!
I’m surprised it’s a noisy as last week’s GR86 according to his db meter. The GR is about as stripped out as any modern car, hence its 1275kg weight. Not sure how a (near as makes no difference) DOUBLE the weight exec car is just as noisy?
These 2 cars are about as opposite as you can get for ‘enthusiast’ cars too, yet he seemed to enjoy both.
M5 does nothing for me though, not a looker at all, outside or inside, massive and overcomplicated. But I guess, as mentioned above, an engineering triumph in handling all the mass with clever electronics that are constantly beavering away in the background unnoticed to save the driver from flying off into the undergrowth.
These 2 cars are about as opposite as you can get for ‘enthusiast’ cars too, yet he seemed to enjoy both.
M5 does nothing for me though, not a looker at all, outside or inside, massive and overcomplicated. But I guess, as mentioned above, an engineering triumph in handling all the mass with clever electronics that are constantly beavering away in the background unnoticed to save the driver from flying off into the undergrowth.
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