CAR STOLEN- am I screwed ?
Discussion
If the thieves drove and old banger in, then put the bangers plates on your car and drove it out, surely in a few weeks etc the car park will notice said old banger dumped, presuming the plates on the old banger were correct, VIN will reveal the plate and CCTV/ANPR can then be checked?
Glassman said:
Quite. Car missing. Key missing. Car 'didn't leave' car park. Insco agrees to payout within a week. Remarkable.
Meanwhile, my neighbour across the road had her brand new car crunched by her next-door neighbour, and the whole thing was witnessed by a third party.
No traction on that claim, whatsoever. Nothing. It happened September last year.
The insurance was brilliant, honestly 10/10. Why would anyone make sMeanwhile, my neighbour across the road had her brand new car crunched by her next-door neighbour, and the whole thing was witnessed by a third party.
No traction on that claim, whatsoever. Nothing. It happened September last year.
t like this up ? The weird compression in places is from where I imported the photo into Corel Draw to redact my details. As a side I was chatting to a mate who used to be a BTP copper who said the car parks at the big airports are virtually patrolled by thieves, looking for unlocked cars etc and that theft of cars from them is WAY more common than is let on. It was certainly NOT the first time the guy in the car park had dealt with it.
OP, thank you for the update.
I always wondered about leaving my car in the long term, but thought I was safe enough with keeping the ticket, cctv etc. Thieves will always find a way round it.
I thought the old bangers in the car park were the transport of thinking people who didn't want to risk leaving their best car there, but now I know it's the incoming transport of the thieves.
I always wondered about leaving my car in the long term, but thought I was safe enough with keeping the ticket, cctv etc. Thieves will always find a way round it.
I thought the old bangers in the car park were the transport of thinking people who didn't want to risk leaving their best car there, but now I know it's the incoming transport of the thieves.
Just thinking about this again
The BMW M140 is not a common car, so it should be easy for the CCTV car park people to watch the relevant days and see what reg number was used to get it out, and perhaps see some shots of the thieves? And track the car. If someone had died in the course of the theft, then they would do this, as has been reported on cases of murder, the criminal's car was tracked on ANPR across the country and he was arrested.
It's a shame they can't be bothered (I assume). Insurance company's problem now, but they should be able to apply some pressure. Letting it go just perpetuates the future of this crime.
The BMW M140 is not a common car, so it should be easy for the CCTV car park people to watch the relevant days and see what reg number was used to get it out, and perhaps see some shots of the thieves? And track the car. If someone had died in the course of the theft, then they would do this, as has been reported on cases of murder, the criminal's car was tracked on ANPR across the country and he was arrested.
It's a shame they can't be bothered (I assume). Insurance company's problem now, but they should be able to apply some pressure. Letting it go just perpetuates the future of this crime.
M4cruiser said:
Just thinking about this again
The BMW M140 is not a common car, so it should be easy for the CCTV car park people to watch the relevant days and see what reg number was used to get it out, and perhaps see some shots of the thieves? And track the car. If someone had died in the course of the theft, then they would do this, as has been reported on cases of murder, the criminal's car was tracked on ANPR across the country and he was arrested.
It's a shame they can't be bothered (I assume). Insurance company's problem now, but they should be able to apply some pressure. Letting it go just perpetuates the future of this crime.
In an ideal world yes, but which police force has the budget or manpower to investigate crime to this degree?The BMW M140 is not a common car, so it should be easy for the CCTV car park people to watch the relevant days and see what reg number was used to get it out, and perhaps see some shots of the thieves? And track the car. If someone had died in the course of the theft, then they would do this, as has been reported on cases of murder, the criminal's car was tracked on ANPR across the country and he was arrested.
It's a shame they can't be bothered (I assume). Insurance company's problem now, but they should be able to apply some pressure. Letting it go just perpetuates the future of this crime.
M4cruiser said:
Just thinking about this again
The BMW M140 is not a common car, so it should be easy for the CCTV car park people to watch the relevant days and see what reg number was used to get it out, and perhaps see some shots of the thieves? And track the car. If someone had died in the course of the theft, then they would do this, as has been reported on cases of murder, the criminal's car was tracked on ANPR across the country and he was arrested.
It's a shame they can't be bothered (I assume). Insurance company's problem now, but they should be able to apply some pressure. Letting it go just perpetuates the future of this crime.
For most people on PH a BMW M140 is not a common car, but to most people it’s just another 1 series BMW. Considering the amount of cars stolen across the country every day and the possible time frame of disappearance, it’s not worth following up.The BMW M140 is not a common car, so it should be easy for the CCTV car park people to watch the relevant days and see what reg number was used to get it out, and perhaps see some shots of the thieves? And track the car. If someone had died in the course of the theft, then they would do this, as has been reported on cases of murder, the criminal's car was tracked on ANPR across the country and he was arrested.
It's a shame they can't be bothered (I assume). Insurance company's problem now, but they should be able to apply some pressure. Letting it go just perpetuates the future of this crime.
Returned to LHR T5 long stay yesterday evening after a few days away. Steering wheel crook lock on for the duration.
Tbh I am surprised reading all of this - my car was parked within a group of Porsches, opposite that Hawaii five-o muscle car on a 7x plate, next to a 74 plate M2 and the list goes on. The short stay car park (if I’m ever picked up) is full of brand new BMWs, Mercs etc to the extent I wondered if they were fleet cars.
I thought I was overdoing it with my crook lock on the basis of more desirable other potential “targets” close by. Also cameras literally everywhere including rear and front facing ones from the pick-up buses themselves.
If LHR had the inclination, I’m sure they could piece together the whole thing — time of exit, new plate etc etc
Also - on this occasion I happened up park at a space close by the actual runway (out of two or three rows so to speak). I wonder if there are any top tips for general parking location in terms of security.
Tbh I am surprised reading all of this - my car was parked within a group of Porsches, opposite that Hawaii five-o muscle car on a 7x plate, next to a 74 plate M2 and the list goes on. The short stay car park (if I’m ever picked up) is full of brand new BMWs, Mercs etc to the extent I wondered if they were fleet cars.
I thought I was overdoing it with my crook lock on the basis of more desirable other potential “targets” close by. Also cameras literally everywhere including rear and front facing ones from the pick-up buses themselves.
If LHR had the inclination, I’m sure they could piece together the whole thing — time of exit, new plate etc etc
Also - on this occasion I happened up park at a space close by the actual runway (out of two or three rows so to speak). I wonder if there are any top tips for general parking location in terms of security.
48k said:
So if this sort of MO happens a lot, presumably that means there are a lot of old sheds littered about the car parks with numberplates that have already "mysteriously" been scanned through the exit barrier?
I would imagine there are a lot of contract or subcontracted out staff working in security. With so many staff rotation it would be difficult (or reluctance) to pin down the insider who is helping make this system work.leef44 said:
48k said:
So if this sort of MO happens a lot, presumably that means there are a lot of old sheds littered about the car parks with numberplates that have already "mysteriously" been scanned through the exit barrier?
I would imagine there are a lot of contract or subcontracted out staff working in security. With so many staff rotation it would be difficult (or reluctance) to pin down the insider who is helping make this system work.Snotter remains in car park and hance my question that surely after a period of time someone must question why there is a vehicle in the car park with a reg place that has already been scanned out through the exit barrier.
48k said:
The MO discussed above doesn't need an insider to make it work. Obtain a snotter. Have a spare set of its plates made up. Book snotter in to parking and park snotter. Take copy plates stick them over target vehicle plates and drive our target vehicle. No insider needed.
Snotter remains in car park and hance my question that surely after a period of time someone must question why there is a vehicle in the car park with a reg place that has already been scanned out through the exit barrier.
I was thinking the same as you. Wouldn't the car park just accumulate all these snotter cars. So I was thinking those cars get released back out by an insider. Otherwise there would be so many of these cars building up that management would be questioning what is happening in their car park. So the scam could not work for long.Snotter remains in car park and hance my question that surely after a period of time someone must question why there is a vehicle in the car park with a reg place that has already been scanned out through the exit barrier.
leef44 said:
48k said:
The MO discussed above doesn't need an insider to make it work. Obtain a snotter. Have a spare set of its plates made up. Book snotter in to parking and park snotter. Take copy plates stick them over target vehicle plates and drive our target vehicle. No insider needed.
Snotter remains in car park and hance my question that surely after a period of time someone must question why there is a vehicle in the car park with a reg place that has already been scanned out through the exit barrier.
I was thinking the same as you. Wouldn't the car park just accumulate all these snotter cars. So I was thinking those cars get released back out by an insider. Otherwise there would be so many of these cars building up that management would be questioning what is happening in their car park. So the scam could not work for long.Snotter remains in car park and hance my question that surely after a period of time someone must question why there is a vehicle in the car park with a reg place that has already been scanned out through the exit barrier.
Mikebentley said:
Surely an easier way is: Joe Public finds keys and hands them in to car park employee as everyone is in a rush. Car park employee puts them in pocket and says nothing. Walks round car park and identifies vehicle. Call dodgy friends and sell vehicle. Next day just lift barrier when scumbags pay and turn up to collect. If necessary they just bring false/clone plates with them in a bag.
I was chatting to a mate over the weekend who used to be a BTP copper in London until 5ish years ago (not sure how qualified to comment that makes him mind :P ) and his response was along the lines of it would not surprise him if this was the case that "it was not a nice little sideline for staff"... HHe also went on to say that there were gangs wandering the big air port car parks just looking for any opportunity, usually unlocked cars or left luggage, apparently its really common for people to leave bags at the bus stops!!!).
Who knows
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