47th President Of The United States - Donald Trump. VOL. 4

[kevinon]

loafer123 said:

I find it odd that, at the moment your principal is being evacuated from the stage, and the threat it s at it s maximum level, the two heavily armed soldiers on the stage look relaxed and aren t even pointing their guns at the threat.

How does this administration hire secret service ?


Are you loyal to our Leader Donald J Trump?
Yes sir!
Have you ever modelled nude?
Yes sir!

You're in! Great biceps by the way. How often do you work out?

[bloomen]

paulguitar said:

I made that point after the Butler shooting, and it received some angry responses.

I stand by it, though. The idea of laying down your own life for someone as abhorrent as trump is utterly surreal. I suppose those security people are trained not to think about these things too deeply.

I'd be surprised if anyone in his close orbit who didn't display a glimmer of enthusiasm wasn't moved elsewhere already.

Doubt you can get a job cleaning streets in Alaska without declaring fealty any more.

I remember reading that Biden fretted about his Secret Service types still having a flame in their heart for his predecessor.

But many a person commits to serving the office, and by extension the country and the will of its people, regardless of the personality who ends up there.

Which in Piggy's head is totally outside comprehension.

[g4ry13]

BlackTails said:

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Ridgemont said:

Very sobering.

3rd attack. It s a terrible indictment on the fractured state of US politics.

The shooter at Butler PA was a registered Republican.

I d suggest the fracture lines go well beyond simplistic political divisions.

And he donated to the Progressive Turnout Project.

Maybe he registered Republican thinking it would be easier to gain access to certain events.

He donated $15 when he was 17. And unsubscribed from them the following year. I guess if you looked up the donation though, you knew that and chose to omit it.

Got a source that he unsubscribed?

Or do you mean he didn't donate again?

On January 20, 2021, when Crooks was 17, he donated $15 to the Progressive Turnout Project, a liberal voter turnout group, through the Democratic Party donation platform ActBlue.[19][58][26][59] His donation was made on the same day that President Biden was sworn into office.[18] According to the Progressive Turnout Project, he made the donation in response to an email about "tuning into" the inauguration. He unsubscribed from the group's mailing list in 2022.[60][57]

The source?

A link is fine. I had looked into this and it said subscriptions and mailing lists weren't public record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Crooks

Under Political Activities.

I see.... Wiki is our source these days.

I could paste in my response from chat GPT which said there was nothing publicly available to confirm he ever unsubscribed. Seems as valid as Wiki.

[hidetheelephants]

g4ry13 said:

I see.... Wiki is our source these days.

I could paste in my response from chat GPT which said there was nothing publicly available to confirm he ever unsubscribed. Seems as valid as Wiki.

Unless ChatGPT referenced the information it gave you, no it isn't as valid; that section is referenced to articles published by CBS News and CNN.

[kevinon]

Mr-B said:

Bonefish Blues said:

Ultra Sound Guy said:

cookie1600 said:

So how did the assumed assailant manage to shoot one of the Secret Service agents while doing all this running then?

"The Secret Service said one officer was shot in a bullet-resistant vest but was recovering"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/livestory/white-hous...

Judging by the standard of this operation the SS agent was probably shot by one of his colleagues!

I think that's the working assumption.

If it was friendly fire then no more will be heard about it, if it was the shooter there will be official details outlining forensic analysis of the bullet matching shooters weapon, evidence of recent use of the firearm etc. etc.

And 'evidence' of pro-trans ideology.
It worked in the Charlie Kirk assassination. the mark TRN on the bullet allowed some hate-mongering from the usual crowd. The mark actually refers to the maker's name - TURAN.

[BlackTails]

g4ry13 said:

I see.... Wiki is our source these days.

I could paste in my response from chat GPT which said there was nothing publicly available to confirm he ever unsubscribed. Seems as valid as Wiki.

I would take wiki over chapgpt every day of the week and twice on Sunday. They’re in the same ballpark.

YMMV.

[g4ry13]

BlackTails said:

g4ry13 said:

I see.... Wiki is our source these days.

I could paste in my response from chat GPT which said there was nothing publicly available to confirm he ever unsubscribed. Seems as valid as Wiki.

I would take wiki over chapgpt every day of the week and twice on Sunday. They re in the same ballpark.

YMMV.

Yes.... It's frustrating but at least we are safe from the machines (for now)

"Short answer: partially, yes — I was incomplete.
Earlier I said there was no public information about unsubscribing. That wasn’t quite right.
There is a reported statement (via CNN / fact-check reporting) that the email linked to the $15 donation to Progressive Turnout Project was unsubscribed about two years later
That information comes from the organisation itself, not from public records
What I should have said is:
It’s not in public datasets (like voter files or donation databases)
But it has been reported through media quoting the organisation"

[DonkeyApple]

JoshSm said:

allegro said:

The faces you make when he's told you that a 'stray' bullet is cheaper than a divorce.

It's also possibly the face he makes when warm semi solids are filling the nappy so could be entirely coincidental. . And that's her face when she realises she's sitting next to it and can't get away.

Edited by DonkeyApple on Monday 27th April 12:31

[otolith]

Paywalled FT article about the increasing tolerance of the idea of political violence in the US

https://www.ft.com/content/b52113b5-5c83-408b-ba2e...

FT said:

William Braniff, head of the Polarization and Extremism Research and Innovation Lab at American University, said there is a “clear trend line” in US society — a big uptick in hate crimes, assassination attempts, acts of terrorism and other forms of premeditated violence.

He blames a “toxic information environment” full of “conflict entrepreneurs getting rich by making us angry at one another”. That is made worse by a “loss of trust in democratic institutions that makes it easier to see illegal violence as a solution”.

It goes on to highlight the partisan attempts to paint the other side as the root of violence when both left and right have been targeted, and about the use of polarising language in attacks on political opponents and the effect that may have had on the willingness to use violence.

[Strangely Brown]

Surely this picture cannot be real. AI, or just really badly staged?

[CountyLines]

cookie1600 said:

So how did the assumed assailant manage to shoot one of the Secret Service agents while doing all this running then?
Riddl
"The Secret Service said one officer was shot in a bullet-resistant vest but was recovering"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/livestory/white-hous...

Is that confirmed or is it Trump talk? Like the piece of st ICE agent who shot that woman in the face... Trump said he was injured and in hospital, which was obviously yet another outrageous lie.

If a secret service agent was actually hit, I'm amazed they didn't riddle the guy with bullets. Very unusual.

[tumble dryer]

DonkeyApple said:

It's also possibly the face he makes when warm semi solids are filling the nappy so could be entirely coincidental. . And that's her face when she realises she's sitting next to it and can't get away.

Edited by DonkeyApple on Monday 27th April 12:31

[bloomen]

CountyLines said:

If a secret service agent was actually hit, I'm amazed they didn't riddle the guy with bullets. Very unusual.

Maybe this particular agent's the sole libtard left so there's an unspoken agreement among the others to leave him hanging.

[DonkeyApple]

otolith said:

Paywalled FT article about the increasing tolerance of the idea of political violence in the US

https://www.ft.com/content/b52113b5-5c83-408b-ba2e...

FT said:

William Braniff, head of the Polarization and Extremism Research and Innovation Lab at American University, said there is a clear trend line in US society a big uptick in hate crimes, assassination attempts, acts of terrorism and other forms of premeditated violence.

He blames a toxic information environment full of conflict entrepreneurs getting rich by making us angry at one another . That is made worse by a loss of trust in democratic institutions that makes it easier to see illegal violence as a solution .

It goes on to highlight the partisan attempts to paint the other side as the root of violence when both left and right have been targeted, and about the use of polarising language in attacks on political opponents and the effect that may have had on the willingness to use violence.

Does it cover the role of st parents? Or the obsession with everything having to be someone else's fault?

[mcdjl]

DonkeyApple said:

vaud said:

Gary O'Donoghue, the BBC North America correspondent (and an amazing man) noted (worryingly)
"The man on the door outside only took a cursory look at my ticket from what must have been six feet away. We took the lift down to the ballroom, and an agent wanded me but wasn't particularly interested in the bleeps set off by the contents of my inside jacket pocket. They did not ask me to turn out my belongings."

Always a chance that O'Donaghie was treated differently for being recognised, being media and being blind?

He's been working his craft for decades so very likely to be a known face and very likely that as a blind person he was treated differently.

We'd need corroboration from a broader cross section before inferring anything with any reliability?

Makes me think of the joke about packing a bomb when you fly as the odds of the meeting 1 bomb in the plane are tiny and of 2 infinitesimal.

[otolith]

bloomen said:

CountyLines said:

If a secret service agent was actually hit, I'm amazed they didn't riddle the guy with bullets. Very unusual.

Maybe this particular agent's the sole libtard left so there's an unspoken agreement among the others to leave him hanging.

Hinckley wounded a secret service officer, a police officer, and the White House press secretary when attempting to assassinate Reagan. He was apprehended alive, and released from a mental institution 35 years later.

[LM240]

bloomen said:

CountyLines said:

If a secret service agent was actually hit, I'm amazed they didn't riddle the guy with bullets. Very unusual.

I’d say there is a good chance this was ‘blue on blue’ not suspect shooting.

[LM240]

loafer123 said:

I find it odd that, at the moment your principal is being evacuated from the stage, and the threat it s at it s maximum level, the two heavily armed soldiers on the stage look relaxed and aren t even pointing their guns at the threat.

What threat would they be pointing at, as there wasn’t one in that room?

They are ready, observing and able to bring the weapon to aim in a split second.

There is footage where the weapons were raised, off aim, in a higher state of readiness when they ran on.

[NoddyonNitrous]

DonkeyApple said:

Always a chance that O'Donaghie was treated differently for being recognised, being media and being blind?

He's been working his craft for decades so very likely to be a known face and very likely that as a blind person he was treated differently.

We'd need corroboration from a broader cross section before inferring anything with any reliability?

Can't be completely blind as he commented:- "The man on the door outside only took a cursory look at my ticket from what must have been six feet away."

[bloomen]

otolith said:

Paywalled FT article about the increasing tolerance of the idea of political violence in the US

If it becomes normalised there, and it probably will, nowhere's going to do it quite like the US.

Guns everywhere, uneducated people, incredible wealth inequality and increasingly wobbly mental health.

Politics will be a very dangerous job.