How To Deal With No-Good Minors?
How To Deal With No-Good Minors?
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Locke

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1,279 posts

214 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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After reading the "Keyed Car - Repair Options" thread its got me wondering what exactly is the best way of dealing with a minor after for example after they through a stone at your car?

What legally can you do? Can you demand their address/parents details so you can deal with it that way? What if they refuse? (Which I guess they would) Do you call the Police? But how would you make sure they remain there until they arrive? I take it you wouldn't be allowed to restrain them.

Any advice appreciated as I know i'm going to be in this situation one day due to the nature of my job.

Locke

Original Poster:

1,279 posts

214 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Sorry, Maybe this thread would be more suited to S,P&L. Feel free to move.

Big News

1,937 posts

209 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Locke said:
Any advice appreciated as I know i'm going to be in this situation one day due to the nature of my job.

TheStoat

1,498 posts

251 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Restrain the child as kindly as you can and call the police. Always involve the police. Such infractions of the law need to be recorded officially. Also make sure all the people in the vicinity are shown the child and the damage caused so they can look out for the child in future. This approach will encourage people to report any future infractions by said child. You're not there to correct the behaviour of someone's child but nor are you obliged to just turn the other cheek...

Hitch78

6,118 posts

224 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Just leave them outside to rust..


Kentish

15,169 posts

264 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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I could see a victim of some such vandalistic minor "detaining" them until police arrive only to find that minor claims assault or possibly even kiddy fiddling & victim ends up in the cells until proven innocent.

alant

205 posts

249 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Quite a few years ago now my dad was driving along a road which had very few street lights when there suddenly appeared to be a body in the edge of the road in front of him. As I said the road wasn't particularly well lit and the body was in dark clothing so he didn't see it whilst the last minute. He stopped, as did a car coming the other way.

As my dad got to the body it jumped up laughing, and was a kid with a parka coat on pulled up around their head.

My dad was shaken by this, and grabbed them by the scruff of the neck and shook them, calling them a silly bugger, and saying they could have been run over. The kid then ran off and my dad got back in his car, but fortunately not before the driver travelling in the other direction had given him their contact details.

Some time later the police arrived at my dads house. They advised him that the child had been a girl, he had just assumed that it was a boy, and that she was being looked after by her older brother whilst her parents were away on holiday.

They had come to the police station to report the fact that a man had stopped in his car, grabbed her and tried to pull her into his car. She had remembered the registration!!.

Fortunately for my dad he was able to give the police the contact details for the other driver, who corroborated his version of events, at which time the girl admitted what had really happened. My dad was however warned about the fact that he had shaken the child and advised that if anything similar where to happen again he could be done for it.

God knows what would have happened if he hadn't got the contact details of the other driver.

BigS

874 posts

203 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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jazzyjeff

3,652 posts

289 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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alant said:
she was being looked after by her older brother whilst her parents were away on holiday.
No she wasn't, she was lying in the road alone! wobble

One wonders whether the fuzz got around to lecturing the older brother about the proper meaning of 'looking after' (and, for that matter, checking that he was old enough himself to babysit...)?

jesta1865

3,453 posts

239 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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jazzyjeff said:
alant said:
she was being looked after by her older brother whilst her parents were away on holiday.
No she wasn't, she was lying in the road alone! wobble

One wonders whether the fuzz got around to lecturing the older brother about the proper meaning of 'looking after' (and, for that matter, checking that he was old enough himself to babysit...)?
daft thing is there is no legal minimum that kids can be left on their own in this country so the brother would have been ok anyway, despite it being a mad thing for the parents to do

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

226 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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BigS said:
Just be careful they aren't as bolshy as these innocent urchins...!

Dontlift

9,396 posts

288 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Miners you say

No good you say


Locke

Original Poster:

1,279 posts

214 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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Any more serious responses?

EmmaP

11,758 posts

269 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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Locke said:
After reading the "Keyed Car - Repair Options" thread its got me wondering what exactly is the best way of dealing with a minor after for example after they through a stone at your car?

What legally can you do? Can you demand their address/parents details so you can deal with it that way? What if they refuse? (Which I guess they would) Do you call the Police? But how would you make sure they remain there until they arrive? I take it you wouldn't be allowed to restrain them.

Any advice appreciated as I know i'm going to be in this situation one day due to the nature of my job.
Legally you can't do anything in terms of demanding their name, address or utilising restraint.

Call the police with descriptions of the blighters - approximate age, gender, height, hair colour/style, clothing, skin colour.

Do not hold on to them or restrain them as that will constitute a common assault.

You can ask for their name and address but you'll either get a mouthful or they'll run off.

I had my car damaged once by a young lad and his friend (lad who lived opposite me) told me where his friend lived. The boy's parents inspected the damage, were very apologetic and paid for and carried out the repair. I never saw the lad on my street again.

Hitch78

6,118 posts

224 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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Locke said:
Any more serious responses?
Yes. Some people suggest that you can keep them in cages, but I think that that is very sad. Just look at this poor example:









StottyZr

6,860 posts

193 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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Annoyingly you're a bit powerless if you follow legal channels. Depending on my mood i'd either drive on, or park around the corner and come back and punch the kid in the face then run away... Beat them at there own game (mindless violence then run) smile HTH

PH lurker

1,301 posts

187 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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Hitch78 said:
Just leave them outside to rust..

I thought that hehe, the picture looks a shame though.

Fergie87

340 posts

191 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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StottyZr said:
Annoyingly you're a bit powerless if you follow legal channels. Depending on my mood i'd either drive on, or park around the corner and come back and punch the kid in the face then run away... Beat them at there own game (mindless violence then run) smile HTH
Spot on or go back an throw a house brick at them hehe

Office_Monkey

1,969 posts

239 months

Tuesday 7th June 2011
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Fergie87 said:
Spot on or go back an throw a house brick at them hehe
Don't do this, you might hit them, and if caught you might be in a lot of bother. They won't spit at you again though whistle