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A friend wants to take his car for a drive having just finished the build to make sure everything is OK.
It is MOT'd and Insured but yesterday was unable to get road TAX.
Can he legally drive it today and back date the TAX in the morning to this month.
I already know the answer to this but said I would ask just to confirm anyway.
Cheers
It is MOT'd and Insured but yesterday was unable to get road TAX.
Can he legally drive it today and back date the TAX in the morning to this month.
I already know the answer to this but said I would ask just to confirm anyway.
Cheers
Westy Pre-Lit said:
A friend wants to take his car for a drive having just finished the build to make sure everything is OK.
It is MOT'd and Insured but yesterday was unable to get road TAX.
Can he legally drive it today and back date the TAX in the morning to this month.
I already know the answer to this but said I would ask just to confirm anyway.
Cheers
No. At least two offences would be committed. OTOH if he taxes it online then there is 5-day grace period.It is MOT'd and Insured but yesterday was unable to get road TAX.
Can he legally drive it today and back date the TAX in the morning to this month.
I already know the answer to this but said I would ask just to confirm anyway.
Cheers
Westy Pre-Lit said:
Sorry, so if he taxes it on line now, he can take it out today ?
Unfortunately not - the grace period applies when tax is applied for before the old one runs out. (just checked)http://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/appl...
but it would reduce the number of offences
Personally I'd pay it online & test drive it anyway. That way you'll only run the risk of being prosecuted for failing to display, a fine with no points.
I always look at it this way. I've paid from the first of the month so I'm going to use it, wrong I know but the whole system is ridiculous with ridiculous laws enforcing it.
I always look at it this way. I've paid from the first of the month so I'm going to use it, wrong I know but the whole system is ridiculous with ridiculous laws enforcing it.
Two offences - not having tax, and failing to display a tax disc. I'm not sure how quickly the online taxing shows up in the PNC, but if it's instant it would mean that a police ANPR wouldn't ping it, making the chances of being pulled absolutely infinitesimal. A BiB hopefully will be able to say how quickly tax gets through to the PNC.
A couple of months ago my tax was due on a Friday, which coincided with pay day and my daughter school trip, which was 50 miles away and I had to be there at 0930 (Post office opens at 9am) I managed to get to the PO last thing the night before, but still forgot to put it in the car. I was 20 miles into the journey before I realised and it was too late to turn back. I assume had it been noticed I could possibly have been done for failure to display, but I was told by someone I know who works for the PO, that it immediately goes onto the database pretty much as soon as you pay. Knowing my luck, IF I'd decided to wing it and drive with no tax intentionally, I'd have been caught. As it stood, I'd like to thing that the police might have given me the benefit of the doubt, and been able to see that I actually had taxed it. Guess it might have come down to how charitable they were feeling at the time. Any BiB care to comment on how they might have dealt with that scenario?
IF I'd stopped you.
Me "morning"
You" morning"
...blah blah
Me" I notice you haven't got a current disc?"
You" I bought it this morning, rushing about"
Me "okay, have a good day"
Although the law says you need it from day one. As long as you buy it before the end of the month you pay for the whole month so I'm not that bothered. Unless you are the local well known burglar. Then your honesty is in question and I'd report you.
Me "morning"
You" morning"
...blah blah
Me" I notice you haven't got a current disc?"
You" I bought it this morning, rushing about"
Me "okay, have a good day"
Although the law says you need it from day one. As long as you buy it before the end of the month you pay for the whole month so I'm not that bothered. Unless you are the local well known burglar. Then your honesty is in question and I'd report you.
I have absolutely no previous whatsoever. If I hadn't already realised my error, had you pulled me over, it may have taken me a second or two to remember I hadn't displayed. Believe it or not, in 20 years of driving I've never been stopped by the police for anything. However....I have seen enough 'Road Wars' to know that lying to you guys is both pointless and futile.
You would have got nothing but politeness :-)
You would have got nothing but politeness :-)
henrycrun said:
No Road Tax - Confirmed. Abolished by Churchill cira 1935.
Close, but no cigar.
The actual history and the long-running war waged by the Treasury to kill ring-fencing for roads is quite interesting.
http://ipayroadtax.com/no-such-thing-as-road-tax/b...
Most of us have had fear put into us now that not having the car taxed will mean you are pulled over within yards of your door, the car crushed and you lynched......
Last year my sister visited us with her rather 'I know-it-all' Aussie husband. He decided road tax was too expensive and they drove the UK from top to bottom for 2 months, parking always on public roads....never heard a dicky.
I am still scratching my head at that one and certainly would not do the same, but it does make me wonder if this ' we know where you are' stuff is a bit like the BBC with their license fee fear.....exaggerated, to say the least?
Last year my sister visited us with her rather 'I know-it-all' Aussie husband. He decided road tax was too expensive and they drove the UK from top to bottom for 2 months, parking always on public roads....never heard a dicky.
I am still scratching my head at that one and certainly would not do the same, but it does make me wonder if this ' we know where you are' stuff is a bit like the BBC with their license fee fear.....exaggerated, to say the least?
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