Talking on hands free illegal?
Talking on hands free illegal?
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prg69@aol.com

Original Poster:

68 posts

219 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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Hey guys I heared from a professional driver today who has a fleet of vans that even with Hands free and also the Parrot system it is now illegal to use your phone on the move! I find this astonishing is this true?

TheEnd

15,370 posts

209 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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That's why he's still a van driver...

mrmr96

13,736 posts

225 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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TheEnd said:
That's why he's still a van driver...
Agreed. He's incorrect. Non story. Move along, nothing to see here.

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

184 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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A driver can be done for anything deemed to be distracting their driving.

Using a hands free is not illegal perse but if it is also distracting you then it is possibly

an offence .smile

simoid

19,774 posts

179 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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Indeed - listening to the radio and chatting to passengers have also been outlawed.

wink

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

267 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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simoid said:
Indeed - listening to the radio and chatting to passengers have also been outlawed.

wink
Except you're wrong and iva cosworth is correct.

Blakewater

4,521 posts

178 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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It's hard to enforce such a ban because, unless you're clearly wearing an earpiece, no one knows you're using a handsfree system. Even if you are, there's no way of knowing you're talking on it at the time you're spotted. There may as well be a law against singing along to the radio and talking to yourself.

tomsugden

2,409 posts

249 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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Except of course for the call log on the phone.

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

209 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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prg69@aol.com said:
Hey guys I heared from a professional driver today who has a fleet of vans that even with Hands free and also the Parrot system it is now illegal to use your phone on the move! I find this astonishing is this true?
As already said, absolute taiters ........

It is of course, what they should've done, if they were going to do anything at all about mobile phones and driving.

Personally, I'd have left well alone, and just dealt with the plonkers who screwed up, the law on this is a mess, and ignored almost as routinely as speed limits !

rs1952

5,247 posts

280 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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Nigel Worc's said:
prg69@aol.com said:
Hey guys I heared from a professional driver today who has a fleet of vans that even with Hands free and also the Parrot system it is now illegal to use your phone on the move! I find this astonishing is this true?
As already said, absolute taiters ........

It is of course, what they should've done, if they were going to do anything at all about mobile phones and driving.

Personally, I'd have left well alone, and just dealt with the plonkers who screwed up, the law on this is a mess, and ignored almost as routinely as speed limits !
yes

Whilst I know that the mobile phone issue gets PHers into two opposing camps very quickly, it is IMHO simply one of those laws that is generally unenforceable and also ignored.

It speaks volumes of our previous Labour administration that, faced with these inescapable facts, they chose to increase the penalties rolleyes

Perhaps they didn't know or realise that bad law gets ignored .....

s3fella

10,524 posts

208 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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Well the copper that stopped me when driving onto the ferry at the docks the other day, (private property?) told me to hang it up, (hands free) as it was "an £80 fine".


Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

209 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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s3fella said:
Well the copper that stopped me when driving onto the ferry at the docks the other day, (private property?) told me to hang it up, (hands free) as it was "an £80 fine".
A copper monitoring cars at a docks ?

Maybe it's illegal to use a mobile phone on the car deck of a ferry, period, (although I've never heard of it, and I do so quite often), it certainly isn't an offence to use a hands free kit anywhere mobile phone use isn't banned, and the only place I can think of that mobile phone use is actually illegal is onboard a public passenger aircraft

s3fella

10,524 posts

208 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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Nigel Worc's said:
s3fella said:
Well the copper that stopped me when driving onto the ferry at the docks the other day, (private property?) told me to hang it up, (hands free) as it was "an £80 fine".
A copper monitoring cars at a docks ?

Maybe it's illegal to use a mobile phone on the car deck of a ferry, period, (although I've never heard of it, and I do so quite often), it certainly isn't an offence to use a hands free kit anywhere mobile phone use isn't banned, and the only place I can think of that mobile phone use is actually illegal is onboard a public passenger aircraft
He was in the booth at passport control / check in booth, then having cleared that, and parked up about 30 yrds past it, i I was on a call with the insurance to get a green card orgainsed, (car I had planned to take broke down en route) and he came over and told me to move. I did so, whilst still on the call, and he went off on one, telling me to hang up, as it was "an £80 fine!" I did so, as he was getting arsey, and told him I thought I was ok to use handsfree on private property, he said it was not private, and it was illegal to use "phones or Ipods when driving".
I suspected he was talking shyte but drove off and made the call from the boat.
He was plod, his stab vest said so.

simoid

19,774 posts

179 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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Ozzie Osmond said:
simoid said:
Indeed - listening to the radio and chatting to passengers have also been outlawed.

wink
Except you're wrong and iva cosworth is correct.
PH - understanding sarcasm matters.

wink

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

209 months

Thursday 1st September 2011
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s3fella said:
He was in the booth at passport control / check in booth, then having cleared that, and parked up about 30 yrds past it, i I was on a call with the insurance to get a green card orgainsed, (car I had planned to take broke down en route) and he came over and told me to move. I did so, whilst still on the call, and he went off on one, telling me to hang up, as it was "an £80 fine!" I did so, as he was getting arsey, and told him I thought I was ok to use handsfree on private property, he said it was not private, and it was illegal to use "phones or Ipods when driving".
I suspected he was talking shyte but drove off and made the call from the boat.
He was plod, his stab vest said so.
It is legal to use hands free anywhere it is legal to use a mobile phone ..... period.

The law is such an arse of course, that you can be charged with dwdca for just about anything, but you can't be charged with using a hands free kit, the offence just doesn't exist.

streaky

19,311 posts

270 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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Nigel Worc's said:
It is legal to use hands free anywhere it is legal to use a mobile phone ..... period.
It is not legal, but it is lawful.

Streaky

Pints

18,448 posts

215 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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streaky said:
It is not legal, but it is lawful.

Streaky
Serious question, what's the difference?

anonymous-user

75 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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TheEnd said:
That's why he's still a van driver...
I do wonder if some people can read, possibly a company owner/director owning a fleet of vans ? A ph necessity smile

A national company I know of has the vehicle manufacturers bluetoth disabled to ' prevent' staff using them & company policy is that phones are switched off & in the boot.
The boot policy is also ' written' up in our employees ' driver authority card'.

] don't think anyone does, seems more of a cover our ass at all times, shift responsability type piece of work by the H & S dept.

Kevin VRs

13,628 posts

301 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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Nigel Worc's said:
and the only place I can think of that mobile phone use is actually illegal is onboard a public passenger aircraft
No, not illegal there either, just against the airline rules.

BO55 VXR

4,373 posts

272 months

Friday 2nd September 2011
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My $0.02....

Isn't the OP's statement correct if you have to actually press a button on the phone itself to answer the incoming call