Camera on Bridge? - M62
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M62 yesterday afternoon
White van parked on top of bridge
What looked like a camera on tripod placed outside in line with middle lane
No signs of speed cameras anywhere
Not an accident blackspot by any means
Questions:
Was it a speed camera? If yes I thought that warning signs had to be up!!!!
At what distance do they zap you?
At what speed are they set to trigger?
PS: I was just following the flow in the outside lane between 70 and 80mph
Thank you
White van parked on top of bridge
What looked like a camera on tripod placed outside in line with middle lane
No signs of speed cameras anywhere
Not an accident blackspot by any means
Questions:
Was it a speed camera? If yes I thought that warning signs had to be up!!!!
At what distance do they zap you?
At what speed are they set to trigger?
PS: I was just following the flow in the outside lane between 70 and 80mph
Thank you
Jay-Aim said:
Was it a speed camera? If yes I thought that warning signs had to be up!!!!
At what distance do they zap you?
At what speed are they set to trigger?
PS: I was just following the flow in the outside lane between 70 and 80mph
Warning signs don't seem to be a requirement
They zap you from a big distance, normally before you've seen them
70mph+10%+2mph = 79mph so you should be fine at an indicated 80
Went through it myself but there were two tripods and van was not marked up?
Very strange arrangement that I have not seen before.
Was certainly causing some panic braking which was not good as you say the traffic was close and busy all doing 80ish when suddenly people stamped on the brakes. Not a good place to be!
Realistically, you have to treat any vehicle parked on a motorway bridge as a scamera van. As you get closer you may find it's a worker's van or someone wanting to wind you up, but as a first approximation it's a scamera van. In fact, I now assume every figure on a bridge to be someone with a camera.
gfun said:
Went through it myself but there were two tripods and van was not marked up?
Very strange arrangement that I have not seen before.
That sounds like an ANPR set-up. I've seen a set-up like this several times on the A12 now - A plain white van with (sometimes one, sometimes two) tripods in front of it with cameras which resemble CCTV cameras on them. ANPR vans do not have to be marked.
Teppic said:
Went through it myself but there were two tripods and van was not marked up?
Very strange arrangement that I have not seen before.
That sounds like an ANPR set-up. I've seen a set-up like this several times on the A12 now - A plain white van with (sometimes one, sometimes two) tripods in front of it with cameras which resemble CCTV cameras on them. ANPR vans do not have to be marked.
What's ANPR?
Jay-Aim said:Automatic Number Plate Recognition - checks with DVLA/PNC databases and flags up untaxed and wanted vehicles (and "seen in vicinity of crime"?). Usually accompanied by a number of constables in cars and on motorbikes to stop "sus" vehicles - Streaky
gfun said:
Went through it myself but there were two tripods and van was not marked up?
Very strange arrangement that I have not seen before.
That sounds like an ANPR set-up. I've seen a set-up like this several times on the A12 now - A plain white van with (sometimes one, sometimes two) tripods in front of it with cameras which resemble CCTV cameras on them. ANPR vans do not have to be marked.
What's ANPR?
Jay-Aim said:
Thanks
If it was that (and I didn't see any other cars awaiting to stop anybody!!)then that's actually a GOOD thing and to be encouraged. The challenge is then for the police to gain the trust of the public by NOT having speed cameras on top of bridges
The one I passed on the A12 didn't have cars in attendance. I think it depends on the type of checks being done, e.g. it may be because these ones were used for checking tax disks only as opposed to the full checks.
Peter Ward said:
Realistically, you have to treat any vehicle parked on a motorway bridge as a scamera van. As you get closer you may find it's a worker's van or someone wanting to wind you up, but as a first approximation it's a scamera van. In fact, I now assume every figure on a bridge to be someone with a camera.
Yep - exactly what I do now. Not just vans on motorway bridges either, it's pretty much ANY van at the side of the road that I don't recognise. Ludicrous state of affairs.
How long before an ANPR van over a motorway causes a pile up that will then justify a scamera van? How ironic would that be?!
hornet said:
Realistically, you have to treat any vehicle parked on a motorway bridge as a scamera van. As you get closer you may find it's a worker's van or someone wanting to wind you up, but as a first approximation it's a scamera van. In fact, I now assume every figure on a bridge to be someone with a camera.
Yep - exactly what I do now. Not just vans on motorway bridges either, it's pretty much ANY van at the side of the road that I don't recognise. Ludicrous state of affairs.
How long before an ANPR van over a motorway causes a pile up that will then justify a scamera van? How ironic would that be?!
Couldn't agree more. You almost wish it to happen to bring the whole issue to a head once and for all!!!!
gfun said:
very very happy its checking for un licenced, un insured, un mot'ed cars - not happy at the RTA it was close to causing!
Everyone panics when they see a van now. I used to look for kids/people now I scrutinise every parked van I pass.
Same here gfun.
I travel up A5 daily and see new van and wonder.
Its moved today and looks like camper but still makes me anchor!! ( rhyming woz an accident )
Jay-Aim said:
Peter Ward said:
Realistically, you have to treat any vehicle parked on a motorway bridge as a scamera van. As you get closer you may find it's a worker's van or someone wanting to wind you up, but as a first approximation it's a scamera van. In fact, I now assume every figure on a bridge to be someone with a camera.
Yep - exactly what I do now. Not just vans on motorway bridges either, it's pretty much ANY van at the side of the road that I don't recognise. Ludicrous state of affairs.
How long before an ANPR van over a motorway causes a pile up that will then justify a scamera van? How ironic would that be?!
Couldn't agree more. You almost wish it to happen to bring the whole issue to a head once and for all!!!!
They would only blame it on "speeding drivers" and use it to justify "more" scams. The cynical B
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